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When will American men embrace robotic companions?

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Postby S_Parc » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:25 pm

martianmay wrote:
S_Parc wrote:For the most part, MIT/Stanford/Berkeley and their associates did create, the electronic age.


Actually, the base of the electronic age was created by Nikola Tesla and Edison.

Tesla invented alternating current, transformers, the induction motor, the radio, fluorescent lighting and many other inventions.

You already know what Edison invented.

Philo T. Farnsworth was a big TV pioneer and I think he was the first person to invent a working video camera.

None of these men went to MIT/Stanford/Berkely. Edison never went to college and held college graduates in contempt his whole life.


Well yes, Tesla was the greatest mind of all time. Clearly, he's the pinnacle of engineering genius. As for the start of the modern age, I'd also add in the works of Maxwell, a bit earlier, in the 1800s along with a few others.

But the point still stands and that's that much of today's world, meaning the R&D -> to -> corporate machine, is a result of collaborations involving places like MIT (including Lincoln Lab & MITRE in MA) to let's say Digital Equipment Corp, which at its peak, had over 100K employees in the New England states. Thus, the involvement of the average college person to the world of commercialized technologies has a lot to due with the mix of universities, govt money, and private sector financing. In all honesty, half my jobs/contracts in the Bay State are almost a direct causation of the above in some way or another.

So where odbo seems to think that some robber barons, like the Rothchilds or Rockfellers, are influencing tech entrepreneurs, I'd say that it's at best, a type of convenient overflow of their preexisting cash flow, which goes into VC firms like Charles River, etc, from their foundations, private or public. Since 4 of 5 of John D Rockefeller's grandsons are dead, with David in his mid-90s (and clearly not looking ~50 w/ some genomic therapies), I find it hard to believe that the Gilded Age robber barons are controlling today's hi-tech, as a way of lending them eternal youth, like a Ponce De Leon benefactor but with a walking stick and a top hat.

With that stated, sure, there are rich people who want to live forever, Branson of Virgin Atlantic, Ellison of Oracle Corp, etc, and yes, they'll contribute to cryostasis companies and biopharma, to help in completing those goals. But then again, I don't see most people wanting to die, any time soon.

The rise of tech, however, has its flipside and that's that some organization, govt or private, will use it to spy on & control the population, one way or another. And as for RFID implants, w/ supercomputing & vision processing as its goes, it won't even be necessary as ubiquitous cameras, everywhere, will be able to track the movements of every person, within a decade or so, the moment they leave their apartments.
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Postby S_Parc » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:35 pm

martianmay wrote:Of course sexbots will easily fit in (that's what I'm worried about). In an increasingly fragmented selfish society devoid of families and communities sexbots will be the natural successors to cheap porn.

I am not saying that I think anyone should be forbidden from using sexbots or porn. I believe strongly in our right to individual liberty. In my mind every adult that wants to indulge themselves in a way that doesn't damage people or property is free to do so. But I think the fallout from the commodification of sex is damaging our society.

Families today are small and easily fractured. With a few exceptions communities do not really exist anymore. For thousands of years human life has been organized around these institutions. Many of our modern problems are the direct result of the actions of people that grew up without real families or communities.

Individuals that lead hyperscheduled lives devoid of other human beings will inevitably be miserable unless they drug away their sadness, or continually distract themselves from it. I have been there and felt what it is like, and I have seen other people follow that path with the same results.

A small portion of the population can handle being rootless. Some of these people become successful expats or travelers or musicians or drifters or whatever. Good for them, but most people can't live like that and not develop emotional or behavioral problems.


But that's just it ... the post-modern (whatever that entails) world is a type of dystopia because for the most part, people will be rootless and be more or less, drifter worker bees, one stint in Tulsa, another in Dubai, and then another one in Baltimore.

So yes, I presume that a well-adjusted person in this capacity would be a type of self-learner/self-starter, who's happy with his tools and trade and not in developing closeness with others.

martianmay wrote:I also think that the old ideas of self-control and self-restraint are mostly gone. People used to believe in sexual restraint. They recognized the power of human sexuality. Of course some of this was hypocritical and soldiers merrily raped populations, but my point is that sexual restraint used to be an ideal. It isn't anymore.

Part of the reason it isn't valued is that people are maturing sexually without their character maturing. Childhood is much longer today than it was 200 years ago. And adolescence did not exist before the early 20th century.

Childhood used to be short and people matured fast. Not anymore. Childish people are now everywhere.


From what I've seen, a lot of men want to go back to childhood-like behavior, after one's settled in one's money making ventures simply because that's where the so-called innocence lies. It makes me wonder why the Muppet Movie was resurrected, after so many decades. It was a type of age of innocence for a lot of GenXers, and perhaps bringing their kids into that, is a way of continuing it. Others become gamers, join paintball clubs, etc. All and all, the idea is to not grow up.
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Postby odbo » Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:09 am

S_Parc wrote:Kurzweil is just one of recent MIT entrepreneurs, who'd developed natural language algorithms for commercial use. And his desire for re-connecting with his dead father isn't exactly a novel idea, since he doesn't believe in the afterlife/soul and thus, sees tech as the only way of re-uniting with a lost loved one. Yes, kinda sad, from a certain p.o.v, but that's how he sees things.

So in effect, I don't believe that Kurzweil & other techies are on some numbered account payroll of E. Rothchild. I think he's simply another technocrat, who works the proliferation of tech, since he's an engineer after all.

Kurzweil is first and foremost a propaganda mouthpiece for an agenda. No different from Michio Kaku or Kevin Warwick.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ftF8sXzoWk[/youtube]
Listen to this especially (2:22 - 3:40)

If you don't want one world government, one world culture, you're a terrorist. No this guy isn't a shill, he's just a brilliant college professor who got these ideas all by himself.. :roll:

MIT, probably more than any other university has historically basically been an extension of the government, or the rogue government aka the oligarchy. If Rockefeller wants to create a computer to better predict and thus control the population, he creates a fund for research. Several years later in MIT and Stanford a computer is "invented". That is how it works. It doesn't happen out of thin air. Follow the money instead of making assumptions. Technology is not the problem. We could easily have clean energy, flying cars, organic food, but that goes against a cabal's interests.

Take a tv for instance. It's made to f**k with your brain waves and put you in a sleep state. And that is 1940s technology. Then LCD's came out which use fluorescent light, which is known to f**k with your internal clock and melatonin production. So people would use their computers up to 11pm or midnight and then couldn't sleep, or would have their quality of sleep (dream state sleep) greatly reduced. You're telling me they can't invent a tv with a different flicker so that after a 2 hour movie you don't get up feeling physically drained? Or a flat screen monitor without many side effects? Of course they could. But that would go against some of the reasons they brought out this technology in the first place.

You live in a dream world where regular people, or big business, or even a pre determined fate, decides where technology goes. That's not how it works. They fool you very easily through concepts, using things that really don't exist to mold your perception.

The TV news for example. What is it but a daily dose of mind-rape and propaganda. However people don't see it like that, they believe watching the news is some kind of civil duty and even beneficial to the viewer.

Progress is another concept that doesn't exist. In reality what you have is empowerment or dehumanization. More humane or less humane. More compassion or more alienation. A better quality of life, or a worse quality of life. Advancement doesn't automatically mean increase in science and technology and decrease in everything else that we value.

"Progress", or rather change, doesn't go in one direction. It can go in a thousand different directions. But they've got people into seeing a sole path, one that coincidentally realizes all their psychopathic goals. They've conditioned people so completely that they don't even need propaganda mouthpieces anymore, the average person already thinks in the terms that they need, to the point of supporting our own demise. Every idiot on the street "knows" that progress = space travel. They never stop to think for one second that space travel won't improve their quality of life. But the issue isn't space travel, it's that and we've put "progress" ahead of our own interests.

If you ask people "What is the meaning of life?" They will say they don't know, or there is no meaning. But when you ask them less directly, they reveal the purpose they have unwittingly accepted. Ultimately their purpose is to be a slave. And they are completely oblivious to this, they think their embedded motivators are instinctual. But to see the farm is to leave it.

The future will either be the best or the worst era in human history. Will people throw out the parasitic elites, or just let them continue controlling their lives from behind the scenes. Will we continue to let them f**k us over? The first step is refusing what they have in store for us. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use their technology, whether it be cell phones or tvs or having an RFID chip implanted in your hand. They convince us through propaganda. But I'm immune to their bullshit and I have no interest in having sex with robots.
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Postby odbo » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:16 am

I edited my previous post it's much longer now.
martianmay wrote:Why are you so sure that a tiny secretive cabal is running the world? I find it difficult to believe that any single group could somehow work on such an audacious project.

How am I supposed to answer that? I have a life's worth of research and experience proving it. The question I should ask you is where do you get your beliefs? You believe while I know. They've weaved you a concept - a civilization that runs itself and every 4 years a ruling administration gets up and allows a newly elected government to take control. I've never heard of anything more ridiculous. It's what idiots call the democratic progress. Repeat something enough times, especially to young children, and it becomes true. Who the f**k do you think counts the votes? When the old president leaves and the new one is being sworn in, who facilitates the transition? The very idea of a cleaning house every 4-8 years makes my head want to explode. I'm sorry, I'm just not capable of that level of sheer stupidity. I mean how gullible can a man be. Separation of powers and all that rubbish, are you kidding me? Picture this, you're the most powerful man in the world, but only for 4 years. After that you get up and leave and give full power to someone else who the people elected, even though a cabal has total control of the media, and you have control of the counting the votes. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL The sheeple will believe anything!!!!

martianmay wrote:But assuming that ALL technological development is somehow directed by a microscopic elite seems silly. Where's your evidence?

I didn't say all. I said they first came up with ideas to suit their goals; computers, television, mind control devices, etc. and then by funding research invented them. But inventions happen outside of their plans, for example there's little to suggest that the car or airplane or the helicopter wasn't anything but the result of hard work by some honest engineers who had no ulterior motive. But transportation or fashion is of little interest, their concern is controlling people. Now virtually all major advancements in technology are a result of the military-industrial complex. Big business is there to separate people from their hard earned money as well as suppress technology not green-lighted by the oligarchy. Big business is not "neutral", as you'll discover if you trace the origins of G.E., IBM, Toshiba, and so on.

Follow the f***ing money. If you do that and nothing else, I doubt you'll miss anything.
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Postby S_Parc » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:28 am

If Rocky and Co were in control of tech, then for sure, David Rockefeller would be a healthy 50-something than a rickety old man in his 90s today. And his other 4 brothers, basically the group which helped him found the Trilateral Commission and a host of other cabals, are all dead now.

There was plenty of time, starting from Watson/Crick's DNA discovery till today, for radical life extension for the oligarchs. Yet, the only person who's been able to fight father time, successfully, was Raquel Welch with her vitamins and workouts.

And yes, MIT is an extension of the national lab system, no big surprise there. Massachusetts (meaning the region) has been the recipient of a quarter of the federal defense R&D money, since I was in the crib & earlier. Almost everyone knows that that's why the Bay State has been so rich, since the late-50s. Hence everyone, who has a decent job here, is bought for by *Big Defense* or as Eisenhower put it, the Military-Industrial complex, in some way, direct or indirect.

And I agree with you, MIT is overrated. It's too much a grant machine and less of a place for free thinkers and innovators, as they like to see themselves. The only reason why entrepreneurs go there, to begin with, is to have access to venture capital resources in the northeast corridor, along with the GPA & standardized metrics. And there you have it, the first batch of equipment sells and then, a business flourishes in the region.
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Postby odbo » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:27 am

S_Parc wrote:If Rocky and Co were in control of tech, then for sure, David Rockefeller would be a healthy 50-something than a rickety old man in his 90s today. And his other 4 brothers, basically the group which helped him found the Trilateral Commission and a host of other cabals, are all dead now.

There was plenty of time, starting from Watson/Crick's DNA discovery till today, for radical life extension for the oligarchs. Yet, the only person who's been able to fight father time, successfully, was Raquel Welch with her vitamins and workouts.

Your rationale is full of assumptions. You can make assumptions all day long, or you can look at how the system actually runs and read their own admissions.

If David Rockefeller was able to extend his life right now by reversing his aging, he would not show himself in public. That should be obvious to you without saying. That's different from an assumption, it's simply common sense. Why would they do anything to damage the primary source of their power, the masque. Likewise you won't see David Rockefeller travelling in flying saucers or cars that run on air, or you won't see Gaddafi or Michael Jackson walking around because it might snap the sheep out of their hypnosis.

Second of all it is irrelevant whether they have everything they need for life extension right now, or 10-20 years into the future. The point is they are on the brink of it and they don't need us anymore. They don't need manpower to build facilities or mine minerals, as they basically have everything that they can extract from this earth. They only need a handful of scientists and time for experimentation. To get into the space age took millions of men, but now that we're there most of the workforce is obsolete. But this has little to do with the original topic at hand.

Robotic companions and other forms of disassociation are no accident, they were planned long ago and will the catastrophic to the future of humanity. Just take a look at Japan right now.

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/view ... ec0f00395d
http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/view ... hp?t=12136
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Postby Billy » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:10 pm

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Postby C.J. » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:23 pm

I can't wait! I'd bang the SHIT outta my sexbot, I would NEVER come out the bedroom! I'd be like Whitney, only without the drugs. :D

I wouldn't expect much out of Japan, as they'll be 2nd, 3rd world at best pretty soon, due to the radiation poisoning the country.
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Postby Billy » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:44 pm

I would get bored with the same bot everyday. I would change them. And I would do some orgy with my bots. But doing gang bang could become weird ;-)
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Postby S_Parc » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:15 pm

Billy wrote:I would get bored with the same bot everyday. I would change them. And I would do some orgy with my bots. But doing gang bang could become weird ;-)


For a number of fellows, it might have a different effect.

In other words, once the guy is satiated, he may lose interest in habitual boinking and get back to his natural interests whether it be sports, writing novels, designing buildings/structures, the sciences, drawing, etc. And thus, once boinking is relegated to a doing let's say a 'daily workout', like hitting the gym or swimming a lap, it may lose its priority altogether.

Remember when you were 8-9 years old? Were you really interested in women back then?
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Postby Billy » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:27 pm

Yes I was definitely intersted in them. Maybe I started very early. I was a little wanker like now ;-)
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Postby S_Parc » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:39 pm

Billy wrote:Yes I was definitely intersted in them. Maybe I started very early. I was a little wanker like now ;-)


Back then, I could take 'em or leave 'em. I was clearly more into Sci-Fi/Fantasy movies, etc, than women.

It's when all the hormones started up, circa 11-12, is when I got brainwashed into the *mad* pursuit of women, as a natural state.
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Postby ama201 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:43 pm

that is good to know. my spouse is looking to become a registered nurse.
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Postby ExpeditionSailor » Wed May 23, 2012 1:23 am

I could go for a robotic woman as long as she:

1) can suck golf balls through a hose
2) can do the same with her p***y
3) is genuinely affectionate and loving
4) cooks and cleans for me
5) can carry on a reasonably intelligent conversation
6) looks and feels reasonably realistic

The big problem, as I see it, is developing an AI and animatronic components that will let the robot girl walk, talk, and act like a real woman without delivering the bullshit that real-life women do. I would want my robot girl to accompany me from time to time, not just sit parked in a closet at home until I need her.
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Postby S_Parc » Wed May 23, 2012 2:48 am

ExpeditionSailor wrote:I could go for a robotic woman as long as she:

1) can suck golf balls through a hose
2) can do the same with her p***y
3) is genuinely affectionate and loving
4) cooks and cleans for me
5) can carry on a reasonably intelligent conversation
6) looks and feels reasonably realistic

The big problem, as I see it, is developing an AI and animatronic components that will let the robot girl walk, talk, and act like a real woman without delivering the bullshit that real-life women do. I would want my robot girl to accompany me from time to time, not just sit parked in a closet at home until I need her.


The full "Valerie 23" Outer Limits episode is streaming on hulu for free. I think she encompasses all of your requirements :wink:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/128886/outer-limits-valerie-23
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