Foreign women change in America

[leavingusa]

Pubic Dunderhead,

Only 3 guys? Sorry pal you married a slut, a solid catholic upbringing means virgin.

They all bounced up and down on her for free, you paid the freight. She played coy with you about sex, bet that wasn't hard.

One day when the time is right she will wake up and realize she can toss you aside and keep the paycheck. After 10 years she gets lifetime alimony in some states.

Dunderhead is right about one thing, stay away from illegal immigrants. Call INS, ICE and report illegal workers.

[colibri]

if you want to date foreign women seek women already living in the country from mexico, rest of latin america, asia and eastern europe. ideally find an illegal she will be afraid to call cops and will likely speak shit english so it will be hard for her to adapt to usa feminist culture by not understanding tv and reading liberal fem literature. also dont marry them. for f***s sake its not a good financial move and changes the power dynamic. if she gives you shit for not marrying her tell her if she really loves you it shouldnt matter. if she insists then id worry she knows its a ticket to get your money which maybe is why she wants to be with you to begin with. if that happened to me id simply move on to the next piece of ass. if she brings up the subject of marriage early in the relationship id be scarred because what she is saying is i want a husband and at that point she is looking for someone for the role. i dont know about you but that doesnt sound like love to me.

So ,some gents dont really marry for love either huh?

I really hope you find yourself a smart girl instead of a fool one here ,believe me u will strugle so much more with the second. if you prefer going for the 2nd one , hope u enjoy her "caprichos" "escenas" "panchos" y berrinches

[ssjparris]

From your observation of any foreign woman from a different culture. how long does it take to change.

they seem to change super fast. here in L.A. and chicago too. what is your experience on this.

What kind of person where they like. and what difference did you see change.

Biggest change? A whopping majority of foreign-born women who have moved to Chicago have two distinct traits:

1) They realize that the police are at their beck and call, and this gives them a misandric power trip that can be even worse than American females.

2) Fearmongering and racial discrimination goes directly to their head, and suddenly she thinks all men of a different race are lowly criminals.

As far as how long it takes for foreign women to become this when they move to America? Who knows. Just avoid them because (in Chicago, at least) they are potentially worse than American women once they settle here. Believe it.

i believe you 100 %. especially with the fear word. and yes the minute they find out the laws are in their favor they will use it to bring harm to innocent men. sometimes to stop him from pursuing them.

[publicduende]

Pubic Dunderhead,

Only 3 guys? Sorry pal you married a slut, a solid catholic upbringing means virgin.

They all bounced up and down on her for free, you paid the freight. She played coy with you about sex, bet that wasn't hard.

One day when the time is right she will wake up and realize she can toss you aside and keep the paycheck. After 10 years she gets lifetime alimony in some states.

Dunderhead is right about one thing, stay away from illegal immigrants. Call INS, ICE and report illegal workers.

Leavingusa,

Your description of what (you think) my wife is is beyond pathetic. What you're talking about is basically the only type of woman you've known, and you'll probably ever attract and meet given your beliefs and attitude. Similes cum similibus, likes go with likes, the Romans said.

She wasn't a virgin when we met because in modern age it's complete nonsense to be still a virgin at 23/24. All that mattered to me was that we fell in love with each other for who we were, not for what kind of passport, bank account or sex benefits we could get. We still love and respect each other after 6 years together, and 3.5 years of marriage. And no thanks, she has her own career in a multinational, a job similar to what she had in Medellin 4 years ago, and actually puts a very decent paycheck in our joint account.

That people like you like to spout useless rants about the dangers of US/Anglo/Western women out of your own bitter personal experiences, it's understandable. That you then look down on those who had far better success, or a lot less bad luck so to speak, is arrogant to the extreme.

Truth is, falling in love requires a leap of faith. It's about knowing yourself and what you need in life even more than knowing your potential partner. And if all you need is the next piece of ass to extract some loveless sex from, be my guest. Don't complain to us though when the game turns against you and those talking asses find a pretty way to pay you back with the same currency.

[ssjparris]

if the foreign girl is with some other woman that is american. she is pretty much guaranteed to get f***ed up in the head.

i notice the foreign women here in southern california are almost similar to the women that live here. they are all defensive, paranoid, selfish and alot of fear. they do change the minute they move or visit here. although some nice qualities are still retained such as openness, nice and friendly. but that will not last at all.

another thing a noticed is that the foreign girls such as asians are always around asian women. they are never with american women. I believe american women do not want to be friends with foreign girls.

i remember a woman here on the forum discussed this. she said she could not make friends with her husbands mother and sisters. when she tried harder it got worst.

another thing about foreign women is that they are ALL after money here in california. they expect you to have atleast a lexus nice expensive clothes. then they will date you. all the foreign women here dont want a man with decent income they want him to have alot of money.

this is what i mean by change in foreign women. its crazy.

[chanta76]

I think with overseas girls. You have to examine the girls that seek out western husband or boy friend. I think that the girls who seek out western husband maybe doing it for social economics reason or they think western men will treat them better. What I mean is that the girls come from a male dominated society. Guys in her country act like men and she doesn't want that type of men so she seeks a western guy because supposedly western men believe in equality in the sexes.

So in a way a western guy might be getting screwed even with a foreign girl because he is getting the more liberal minded foreign girl. They get married and move to USA where the culture is pro-woman..guess what..the liberal minded foreign girl realize that she can be treated much better than her current western husband. Plus in this country if you have an attractive looking foreign bride her stock goes way up and she will get unwanted attention from other American man.

So this foreign girl realize she now lives in a pro-woman country and has other option..and doesn't have to settle for her current western husband. I mean think about it ....if a foreign girl doesn't want to date the local man in her country.....and wants something better..you think she will be happy with you if she sees something better in the USA?

I'm not saying all foreign women are like this but have her really love you . It's not possible for all men to move to her country. It's just not possible..if you can live in her country and you have option.....and that will keep her in check but if it's not possible make sure sign a prenupital before marriage and make sure she does love you.

[FREEDOM1]

yes

the culture of feminised counties, eg - western countries

will posion foreign women immigrants

they may stay immune for a while, but if they integrate with

local women and work with them - its just a matter of time

subconciusly they can brainwashed and lose their feminine qualities

not totally, but will be reduced, better to live in her country so this doesn't happen

Western counties are just not male friendly, plain and simple

[drealm]

Pubic Dunderhead,

Only 3 guys? Sorry pal you married a slut, a solid catholic upbringing means virgin.

They all bounced up and down on her for free, you paid the freight. She played coy with you about sex, bet that wasn't hard.

One day when the time is right she will wake up and realize she can toss you aside and keep the paycheck. After 10 years she gets lifetime alimony in some states.

Dunderhead is right about one thing, stay away from illegal immigrants. Call INS, ICE and report illegal workers.

I attach a lot of value to a woman's virginity also.

But you disparaged another man's wife in a public venue which I consider ungentlemanly. I can understand the a broad disapproval but I'd never make a personal reference because I consider this a private issue between a man and his wife (given publicduende did bring it up). I think if such an attack is made on the honor of a man's wife, I would expect reasonable retaliation. I don't see reacting with violence to your statement in this case as justified but I do acknowledge some reactions are uncontrollable and based on emotion. So if publicduende beats the hell out of you for disparaging his wife's honor in a public venue, I see it as an acceptable reaction that cannot be prevented.

[publicduende]

Pubic Dunderhead,

Only 3 guys? Sorry pal you married a slut, a solid catholic upbringing means virgin.

They all bounced up and down on her for free, you paid the freight. She played coy with you about sex, bet that wasn't hard.

One day when the time is right she will wake up and realize she can toss you aside and keep the paycheck. After 10 years she gets lifetime alimony in some states.

Dunderhead is right about one thing, stay away from illegal immigrants. Call INS, ICE and report illegal workers.

I attach a lot of value to a woman's virginity also.

But you disparaged another man's wife in a public venue which I consider ungentlemanly. I can understand the a broad disapproval but I'd never make a personal reference because I consider this a private issue between a man and his wife (given publicduende did bring it up). I think if such an attack is made on the honor of a man's wife, I would expect reasonable retaliation. I don't see reacting with violence to your statement in this case as justified but I do acknowledge some reactions are uncontrollable and based on emotion. So if publicduende beats the hell out of you for disparaging his wife's honor in a public venue, I see it as an acceptable reaction that cannot be prevented.

Thanks for taking my defense, drealm. Much appreciated. I am not overly upset about leavingusa staining my wife's honour. I am neither interested nor concerned with the opinion of a man who doesn't know Monica in the slightest and, what's sadder, clearly has never loved a woman more than himself and his alleged sexual freedom. I will never beat the hell of out him, if anything because one can clearly see what solitude and absence of genuine, charitable feelings his words betray.

[All_That_Is_Man]

Pubic Dunderhead,

Only 3 guys? Sorry pal you married a slut, a solid catholic upbringing means virgin.

They all bounced up and down on her for free, you paid the freight. She played coy with you about sex, bet that wasn't hard.

One day when the time is right she will wake up and realize she can toss you aside and keep the paycheck. After 10 years she gets lifetime alimony in some states.

+9999

I hate to agree with leavingusa here (because I do in fact think his words were harsh), but he is so right. Why would you marry a woman who says she f***ed 3 different guys before you (I bet none of which were her husband)? And what if she lied and it was more like 4 guys? 10 guys? 53 guys? pubicblunderhead, you are already the biggest white knight married simp on these forums, why then would you admit you voluntarily married a "Catholic" woman who said she f***ed 3 guys before you? A solid Catholic upbringing means she would have been a virgin saving herself. No wonder you have so much seething hatred for guys who court bar girls and escorts. They get all the fun out of trash that some guys feel some false compulsion to marry and beg acceptance from family and peers.

[publicduende]

Pubic Dunderhead,

Only 3 guys? Sorry pal you married a slut, a solid catholic upbringing means virgin.

They all bounced up and down on her for free, you paid the freight. She played coy with you about sex, bet that wasn't hard.

One day when the time is right she will wake up and realize she can toss you aside and keep the paycheck. After 10 years she gets lifetime alimony in some states.

+9999

I hate to agree with leavingusa here (because I do in fact think his words were harsh), but he is so right. Why would you marry a woman who says she f***ed 3 different guys before you (I bet none of which were her husband)? And what if she lied and it was more like 4 guys? 10 guys? 53 guys? pubicblunderhead, you are already the biggest white knight married simp on these forums, why then would you admit you voluntarily married a "Catholic" woman who said she f***ed 3 guys before you? A solid Catholic upbringing means she would have been a virgin saving herself. No wonder you have so much seething hatred for guys who court bar girls and escorts. They get all the fun out of trash that some guys feel some false compulsion to marry and beg acceptance from family and peers.

And what if they were 54? And what if your judgement is not changing my life and that of my wife? Just because I said she had a Catholic upbringing and went to Catholic private schools up to university, that doesn't mean she's stupid enough to marry the first man she had sex with, or vice-versa. If you're such a pious man why are you even entertaining the idea of looking for cheap fun in the Philippines? Because you're a man, a "real" man? Because that's the only kind of sex and companionship you will ever get, given your beliefs? Pathetic.

Extending your sexist, gynophobe judgement to all women in a social or national group is bad enough, and a clear sign of social immaturity. Now I see you're happy to "specialise" that same judgement on individual men and women you have never met. This is beyond sick, let me tell you. You and some of the guys backing your ideas to this extreme degree and people who basically built their state of loneliness, frustration and social disability with their own hands. They have nobody and nothing else to blame.

f**k do you know about my wife? You're such a bitter, sexist hypocrite to think that a man is allowed, by birth right or some obscure law of nature, to play with as many girls as he pleases while crying scandal and attaching the "whore" label to a a girl who does (or intends to do) the same. People like you used to exist in 1950s Southern Italy. Now they're just the subject of a few raunchy jokes, and perhaps soft porn comics. You clearly still live in a fantasy world populated by hot virgins ready to recognise you as their only true love, worship you and treat you like the king you're not. Well, wake up and smell the coffee. Change your attitudes and start seeing women for the dignified human and social beings they are, worth your love (if you can indeed still get to feel love) and respect regardless of where they are from or how poor they are. If anything, because soon enough the only charm you have left, that of your declining dollar, won't even be worth the time of an Angeles City working girl.

And, ultimately, what the f**k do you know about me? You think I have never been with an escort? You think I didn't realise why most escorts in poor or transitional Asian countries do it? I never hated them, in fact I respect their choice, since most of the time they do it out of a real need to feed and protect their children. I don't even hate guys who go with bar girls, but cannot help seeing them as big fat hypocrites when, as you're doing now, they say a woman should be an innocent virgin at marriage, homebound, treating their men like princes and being slapped if they overstep the line.

Why am I even asking you such questions? You guys appear to have lost any appreciation for the value of love, or real feelings, in human relationships. Everything is reduced to an equation that wil magically spit out the country or town with the hottest (and most naive) young ladies your money and stereotypical Yankee status can buy. What's worse, you have no intention to get out of the swamp of bitterness and self-referential paranoias you are drowning in.

I think it's you who hate large swathes of mankind without any justifiable reason than your own personal experience. An experience that might be yours, only yours, or even shared by a few other members of this forum. But, as I said so many times to exhaustion, this forum is not the world. The US is not the world. "You" is not the world.

[noog]

Let's keep the thread on-topic - how much generally do foreign women change in America and what are some of the changes? Publicduende had some good observations in his original post. I'd like to hear more examples of changes in foreign women here - either good or bad, either predictable or unexpected.

I'm also not into bashing or predicting doom for other people's marriages. It sounds like things are going fine for Public. Whether you agree or not, it's his and his wife's responsibility to judge whether it's working, not ours. Perhaps some of you are bitter because you aren't the one getting laid?

It seems like there are some Expats or prospective Expats who seem to forget that for some of us, leaving America or our home country is not an option due to children, family, job etc. I'm tired of reading some of you assert that bringing a woman back to America is a no-win proposition, when there are many examples out there of men who made it work here with their foreign bride and have had long-standing marriages.

[Mercury]

From your observation of any foreign woman from a different culture. how long does it take to change.

they seem to change super fast. here in L.A. and chicago too. what is your experience on this.

What kind of person where they like. and what difference did you see change.

They change almost overnight in America. Especially when they attempt to socialize and get stopped by the police and told; "You can not do that at all in the United States of America. We don't know what country you're from where they let you socialize with whoever you want to, but in the United States of America, it absolutely does not fly at all. If we ever see you socializing with anyone like that again, you will be arrested and you will go to jail.