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So lets have an unmoderated forum for awhile.

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So lets have an unmoderated forum for awhile.

Postby Repatriate » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:35 am

It appears some people have their panties up in a wad over recent banning of trash posters and quite a few other trolls. Winston has reversed the ban on a couple. I dont have time to argue over this and I delete a ridiculous number of ad spammers and more obvious trolls on a regular basis.

Ill just sit back and let whatever happens happen. No more deleting or banning of all users. I wont be doing a thing about the Swincors, oiltradingacademies, Konradskies, FPs, either.

Have fun. :lol:
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Re: So lets have an unmoderated forum for awhile.

Postby odbo » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:39 am

Repatriate wrote:It appears some people have their panties up in a wad over recent banning of trash posters and quite a few other trolls. Winston has reversed the ban on a couple. I dont have time to argue over this and I delete a ridiculous number of ad spammers and more obvious trolls on a regular basis.

Ill just sit back and let whatever happens happen. No matter deleting or banning of all users. I wont be doing a thing about the Swincors, oiltradingacademies, Konradskies, FPs, either.

Have fun. :lol:

The only people who advocated no moderation were the trolls you banned, and "Arab". The silent majority supported your actions, at least most of them. You're just acting like a self-centered prima donna if you're deserting the forum when it needs you most. Why didn't you resign from your moderator status when the forum wasn't being flooded with trolls, so Winston had a chance to appoint a new one? Ya.. that's what I thought.
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Re: So lets have an unmoderated forum for awhile.

Postby OutWest » Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:39 am

Repatriate wrote:It appears some people have their panties up in a wad over recent banning of trash posters and quite a few other trolls. Winston has reversed the ban on a couple. I dont have time to argue over this and I delete a ridiculous number of ad spammers and more obvious trolls on a regular basis.

Ill just sit back and let whatever happens happen. No matter deleting or banning of all users. I wont be doing a thing about the Swincors, oiltradingacademies, Konradskies, FPs, either.

Have fun. :lol:


Living abroad, advantages of non-USA women, related expat posts and experiences and the debates around those topics seem to be the mission of the site at it's core. The fact that you are banning mentally flatulent bitch-punks just means you are doing what needs to be done. Stay the course buddy! Ban the diaper brigade!

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Re: So lets have an unmoderated forum for awhile.

Postby Repatriate » Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:47 am

It's pretty much impossible to mod while having every decision reversed when some guy who registered a month ago cops a sob story to Winston and he's gullible enough to fall for it. I don't have time to screw around with politics and drama so i'll just let things develop as they may. I'm not being a primadonna about this i'm kind of indifferent. It's Winston's income and his site he's putting on the line not mine.

If you want things to stay the course convince Winston of this.
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Postby momopi » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:35 am

Just setup one "unmoderated discussions" forum and direct all off-topic posts there.
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Postby Winston » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:56 am

momopi wrote:Just setup one "unmoderated discussions" forum and direct all off-topic posts there.


It's not that simple. Trolls will not stay within just one board. They will attack people on other boards too. They don't usually confine themselves, even if you tell them to.

Plus, I still don't see the difference between angry opinionated people who want to rant and get into heated debates/flame wars, and trolls. There are a lot of angry people on here who need to vent. That's what this board is for, to a certain extent - a healthy venting ground.

Also, some of those who were banned have apologized and are willing to work on their behavior. If someone apologizes, it's fair and nice to give them a second chance. But if they refuse to even apologize or change, as in OTA's case, then they are a lost cause, yeah. Nice compassionate people do give second chances to people who apologize.

But if you have itchy trigger fingers and ban too many people, even for the slightest things, then you might end up banning innocent posters as well. The mods in the Alex Jones forum are like that, and they've allegedly banned about a million people from there already.

All in all, I think if we just get rid of the worst trolls, things will be ok.

Sure there will always be heated flame wars. But most of us ignore them, and let them slide down into the archives. Some people just need to vent and rant. Besides, those flame war participants are not even here everyday. They heat up and then cool off, in natural cycles.

What do you all think?
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Postby Winston » Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:12 pm

Hi all,
I talked to Rock and others last night, and slept on it. After some consideration, I realize that you guys were right. Repatriate did go a bit too far and went trigger happy with the banning, without much consideration for other people's feelings. And as a result, some innocent people suffered. I also don't think the problem was as bad as he claimed either. So I took him off mod status for now.

I'm not sure that a forceful, quick to judge type of mod is a good thing. Perhaps it's better to have one that's more empathetic, like me, because empathetic types will care more about other people's feelings and consider them before making decisions. While Repatriate is definitely a very clever, practical and insightful person, he is also very quick to judge and take action without considering other people's feelings first. I feel that such a person is probably not good for running a forum that is dedicated to open mindedness, free speech and truth.

Let's hope that he wasn't right that some of the guys he banned here were trolls who wanted to bring this forum down. I doubt that will happen though, at least not with the same people.

I usually have good judgment with people. And as long as they apologize, I'll give them a second chance, which everyone deserves. Those who apologize are honorable and show that they are reasonable at least. It's the lost causes that we have to get rid of.

On a final note, it's funny how many people blamed me for Repatriate's actions. I guess this goes to show that I do have a "victim vibe" after all, since my face must look like a target for people to blame, using any excuse they can - even if it's not directly my fault. This example just further reinforces the evidence for this mysterious recurring phenomenon. lol

Anyway, let's try to maintain healthy discussions and debates ok? If any more flame wars start, and you don't like it, then just ignore those threads (or posts if they are in your thread). Simple as that. I realize that these kind of things are very subjective in that everyone interprets an "attack or disruption" differently. But I'll do the best I can. In the meanwhile, try to control yourselves, and focus on the ISSUES, rather than on attacking or bringing down each other over differing viewpoints.

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Postby Repatriate » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:24 pm

:lol:

I actually requested to be demodded because it's fairly useless attempting to mod when you have someone who has a different set of personal policies and doesn't see trolling or gimmick personas as a big deal.

I simply don't have the time for that or arguing about drama pertaining to the forum. I hope Winston's new soft touch will be the right remedy. I kind of doubt it though seeing as where things were going for the last few months.

It's still interesting reading some of the users posts on here unless the valuable contributors such as Ladislav, Rock, Momopi, Mr. S etc.. start leaving.
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Postby Dogboy86 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:52 pm

You will be missed Repatriate...
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"!!!
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Postby Winston » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:11 pm

OH NO! Billy's back! LOL

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I thought that pest was gone! lol. He must have been watching the forum and waiting for his time to come back. Now that he saw that Repatriate could no longer ban people, he must have chosen this precise time to come back. lol. I guess he's smarter and more calculating than I thought. lol
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Postby odbo » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:26 am

Winston wrote:OH NO! Billy's back! LOL

I thought that pest was gone! lol. He must have been watching the forum and waiting for his time to come back. Now that he saw that Repatriate could no longer ban people, he must have chosen this precise time to come back. lol. I guess he's smarter and more calculating than I thought. lol

I'd take 2 billy's over 1 "Konradzsky". Someone please ban that obnoxious spammer!
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Postby Winston » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:26 pm

odbo wrote:
Winston wrote:OH NO! Billy's back! LOL

I thought that pest was gone! lol. He must have been watching the forum and waiting for his time to come back. Now that he saw that Repatriate could no longer ban people, he must have chosen this precise time to come back. lol. I guess he's smarter and more calculating than I thought. lol

I'd take 2 billy's over 1 "Konradzsky". Someone please ban that obnoxious spammer!


Konradzsky has apologized and promised not to post anymore BS stories or heckling rants. So far, he has behaved ok. He is on probation. Relax and give him another chance. He's apologized for his sins. Everyone deserves a second chance. No one is liked by everyone. But he has a right to free speech too.

Don't forget that there are a lot of weird erratic types here. Konradzsky is not the only one. All of you have free speech here. So why shouldn't he? His behavior has toned down and improved. Show some compassion will ya?
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Postby Dogboy86 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:48 pm

odbo wrote:
Winston wrote:OH NO! Billy's back! LOL

I thought that pest was gone! lol. He must have been watching the forum and waiting for his time to come back. Now that he saw that Repatriate could no longer ban people, he must have chosen this precise time to come back. lol. I guess he's smarter and more calculating than I thought. lol

I'd take 2 billy's over 1 "Konradzsky". Someone please ban that obnoxious spammer!


I secound that!
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Postby Fenix » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:49 am

Winston wrote:
odbo wrote:
Winston wrote:OH NO! Billy's back! LOL

I thought that pest was gone! lol. He must have been watching the forum and waiting for his time to come back. Now that he saw that Repatriate could no longer ban people, he must have chosen this precise time to come back. lol. I guess he's smarter and more calculating than I thought. lol

I'd take 2 billy's over 1 "Konradzsky". Someone please ban that obnoxious spammer!


Konradzsky has apologized and promised not to post anymore BS stories or heckling rants. So far, he has behaved ok. He is on probation. Relax and give him another chance. He's apologized for his sins. Everyone deserves a second chance. No one is liked by everyone. But he has a right to free speech too.

Don't forget that there are a lot of weird erratic types here. Konradzsky is not the only one. All of you have free speech here. So why shouldn't he? His behavior has toned down and improved. Show some compassion will ya?


You are a f***ing moron. Konrad has got you by your milk duds. Anyone that kisses your ass and trolls (irritating forum members for shits and giggles) is forgiven as long as they apologize, but Billy hasn't done shit and he got banned. Many members here wanted Billy banned and I don't know why. Billy didn't kiss your ass. Billy called you a scammer, poor father, whoremonger, etc and you couldn't take that.

I wish I had a week as a moderator. These trolls like Konradzky don't care about our feelings, so why should you care about theirs?

Oh yeah, Konradzky has made a thread about the Arab and it is demeaning, so he is still being an asshole.
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Postby Fenix » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:52 am

Your thread to the Arab wasn't necessary. There's an option called the "private message." You want attention and trolls like attention. How did this become racial again? Why are you so racially conscious? I liked your PM you sent me about Germany and I thought it was semi heartfelt, but tigers never change their stripes...

Since your fake apology and cocksucking to Winston,you are on a rampage again.

You are:

flame-baiting
race-baiting
trolling
Attacking members for no reason
Making pointless threads aka spam posting

Do you know why people on here don't response to your threads? Because you are an attention whore. You go on racist and bigot rants and try to bait people to say something. You need more hugs from your mommy or you need to jack off, but I don't know what you need. You need to help yourself before others can help you...

You are probably the worst poster of all-time on HA. At least OilTradingAcademy's post were entertaining. You act like Kim Kardashian .

Why would someone like you keep coming on this forum? Is your life that f***ed up? You have been banned 85 times and you still keep coming back (because Winston is Mother Goose and cares about your feelings!).

I asked to be banned because I am sick of this forum because of dickwads like you. I asked Repatriate to ban me TWICE and he didn't. Why? Maybe because I contribute quality posts and I am not a damn Paris Hilton like you. I am glad you were banned again because you contribute absolutely nothing to this forum. There's a forum called stormfront and you might want to go on there or the other racially charged forums online where you can fear other races.

You are an idiot. Since you paid for your girl's breast implants, maybe you can get a penis implant. That'll make you feel more like a man...
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