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Your view on abortion

Posted: January 22nd, 2012, 10:54 am
by Ned Zeppelin
I was curious as to what people here thought about abortion. I am personally against it because i don't like the idea of women being the only people who can control our population. I know that Tom Leykis is pro abortion which is apparent in his message.

Posted: January 22nd, 2012, 11:38 am
by onezero4u
its murder imo unless its incest or verified rape.

my view is that if the father didnt want the new baby & decided to abort the baby he would go to jail forever on death row....but if the mother wants to kill it, even against the will of the father ....most places cheer her for being pro choice.

Posted: January 22nd, 2012, 12:46 pm
by lavezzi
No one hates the idea - of these skanks slutting around and simply aborting the baby should they get pregnant - more than me. But, it needs to be fully legal for them to do so. There's far too many scummy women getting knocked-up in their teens and making a career out of leeching off the welfare system. Then their little rat children grow up and make here a horrible place to live.

There's no point whatsoever of having abortion illegal like it is now (here in Ireland) because the tramps just take the ferry over to England to kill their babies anyway. Our decision to be pro-life just for the sake of the catholic-church is outdated and idiotic because all it does is ship more welfare money overseas (like there wasn't enough of that happening anyway with the European Union giving permission to any Romanian gypsie to come here and claim the dole instantly).

If you think the American government is idiotic, look into the decisions made in Irish politics over the last 15 years and they'll seem like geniuses in comparison, even Bush.

Posted: January 22nd, 2012, 1:45 pm
by jamesbond
I think it's murder unless the woman was raped or an incest victim. With that being said, I think it's a good idea to keep it legal, other wise there would be back alley abortions being done.

It's sad that 50 million unborn children have been aborted since Roe v. Wade back in 1973. The woman who brought the case to the supreme court back in 1973, is now against abortion and wishes she never brought the case to the high court.

Feminists LOVE the idea of abortion, even going so far as saying that teenage girls as young as age 14 should be able to get an abortion without their parents knowing about it. WTF? :shock:

The National Organization for Women said, that women should be able to abort their children up to the ninth month of pregnancy! :shock:

Posted: January 22nd, 2012, 2:07 pm
by djfourmoney
You guys are funny - http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/ ... 334pd.html

In a country where Feminism is big part of everyday life, you object to women having a choice weather to have a child or not?

I am Pro Choice and it means just what it says, it there choice and not a man's period. Men have the choice of wearing a condom and if you say condom break you're a bigger moron than I thought.

I've never had a condom break on me.

I don't have children because I am selective with who I have sex with full stop. My ex got pregnant the one time we had unprotected sex, we decided though it was her choice to go down to Planned Parenthood and have the procedure done. I was there the entire time.... She said she would never do it again.

As a result I am not attached to a woman I don't love and a child that wasn't planned.

The down side of the comments above and if abortion was outlawed, women would still seek abortions, especially the ones that can afford to fly to another country to have it done because this immature mindset has been flushed down the toilet.

For every woman that's willing to abort a child, there are women that are willing to have a child via IVF without a husband/boyfriend/father present.

So I say your oppressive mindsets will make men redundant soon and then what you plan to fight back? It will be too late.

Posted: January 22nd, 2012, 3:06 pm
by OutWest
lavezzi wrote:No one hates the idea - of these skanks slutting around and simply aborting the baby should they get pregnant - more than me. But, it needs to be fully legal for them to do so. There's far too many scummy women getting knocked-up in their teens and making a career out of leeching off the welfare system. Then their little rat children grow up and make here a horrible place to live.

There's no point whatsoever of having abortion illegal like it is now (here in Ireland) because the tramps just take the ferry over to England to kill their babies anyway. Our decision to be pro-life just for the sake of the catholic-church is outdated and idiotic because all it does is ship more welfare money overseas (like there wasn't enough of that happening anyway with the European Union giving permission to any Romanian gypsie to come here and claim the dole instantly).

If you think the American government is idiotic, look into the decisions made in Irish politics over the last 15 years and they'll seem like geniuses in comparison, even Bush.
For me and mine, I consider it wrong. I won't speak for Feminists, degenerates, and leftist idiots- for them it might be an obligation...oh wait! They are already volunteering...faster please....

Outwest

Posted: January 22nd, 2012, 3:46 pm
by Contrarian Expatriate
The right to have an abortion rang the bell to women slutting and hoeing around without consequences. Women can now screw like men and believe that they are the better for it.

This right was the beginning of the end, but there is no going back.

Posted: January 22nd, 2012, 7:57 pm
by onezero4u
if its legal for a hoe to murder her unborn fetus then it should be legal for the man to simply walk away from that slut he knocked up. that would also be pro-choice in my mind.

Posted: January 22nd, 2012, 8:19 pm
by djfourmoney
Both of you can just not have sex with that woman...

Posted: January 25th, 2012, 9:42 am
by Winston
Why do you think abortion is murder? Science says that a fetus is not a sentient being. It has no mind, thoughts or consciousness.

To force parents to have an unwanted child is something cruel. Having a child is a 20 year UNPAID job. If you don't love it, it will become the worst thing that's ever happened to you. Why would you want to do that to people?

It's cruel to make people pay for just one mistake with 20 years of slavery.

Anyone can say that they are against abortion. But if they were faced with the prospect of having to commit to a 20 year unpaid job, and the total loss of freedom, burden and responsibility, etc. you might change your mind.

An unwanted child could be the worst thing that's ever happened to you, worse than you can imagine.

Lavezzi is right about outlawing abortion though. It forces women to try more dangerous underground ways of getting it. If they are going to do it, it should be done safely. Nowadays, if they do it early, they only have to take a pill like RU486.

Christian pro-lifers lie though, when they say that abortion is dangerous. In reality, childbirth is far more dangerous and results in far more deaths than abortion does.

I'm not sure about this, but in China, if you have a second child, the government may force you to have an abortion, or else fine you for it.

Posted: January 25th, 2012, 9:50 am
by Winston
Here George Carlin made some good points about abortion and the sanctity of life that make a lot of sense. He was obviously not pro-children.


Posted: January 25th, 2012, 12:28 pm
by Jeygonza
jamesbond wrote:I think it's murder unless the woman was raped or an incest victim. With that being said, I think it's a good idea to keep it legal, other wise there would be back alley abortions being done.

It's sad that 50 million unborn children have been aborted since Roe v. Wade back in 1973. The woman who brought the case to the supreme court back in 1973, is now against abortion and wishes she never brought the case to the high court.

Feminists LOVE the idea of abortion, even going so far as saying that teenage girls as young as age 14 should be able to get an abortion without their parents knowing about it. WTF? :shock:

The National Organization for Women said, that women should be able to abort their children up to the ninth month of pregnancy! :shock:
you've got to be kidding right? As a woman i think abortion is the worst. If you dont like children just use preservatives or whatever you want. Abort is kill a part of you.

Re: Your view on abortion

Posted: January 25th, 2012, 1:02 pm
by Jeygonza
Ned Zeppelin wrote:I was curious as to what people here thought about abortion. I am personally against it because i don't like the idea of women being the only people who can control our population. I know that Tom Leykis is pro abortion which is apparent in his message.
If pregnancy is not for you there's a lot of birth control stuffs. People have to stop killing children.

Posted: January 25th, 2012, 2:33 pm
by walrusface
It is unfair to bring kids into the world if you don't want them. If there was a woman, who (like me) didn't want kids and got pregnant, then it hardly seems fair to make her go through the agony of childbirth for something she doesn't want. Especially if it is a result of rape etc.

If the kid is put up for adoption there's always a chance he or she will want to find their real parents and come looking for you. It would be really awkward for all concerned.

Birth control is never %100 effective so obviously these things can happen to people who don't want them.

Posted: January 25th, 2012, 7:12 pm
by Jeygonza
Winston wrote:Why do you think abortion is murder? Science says that a fetus is not a sentient being. It has no mind, thoughts or consciousness.

To force parents to have an unwanted child is something cruel. Having a child is a 20 year UNPAID job. If you don't love it, it will become the worst thing that's ever happened to you. Why would you want to do that to people?

It's cruel to make people pay for just one mistake with 20 years of slavery.

Anyone can say that they are against abortion. But if they were faced with the prospect of having to commit to a 20 year unpaid job, and the total loss of freedom, burden and responsibility, etc. you might change your mind.

An unwanted child could be the worst thing that's ever happened to you, worse than you can imagine.

Lavezzi is right about outlawing abortion though. It forces women to try more dangerous underground ways of getting it. If they are going to do it, it should be done safely. Nowadays, if they do it early, they only have to take a pill like RU486.

Christian pro-lifers lie though, when they say that abortion is dangerous. In reality, childbirth is far more dangerous and results in far more deaths than abortion does.

I'm not sure about this, but in China, if you have a second child, the government may force you to have an abortion, or else fine you for it.


Winston are you crazy? Or maybe you're not human?

Have you asked a woman about that? Do you know what it means for some of them?


You said have unwanted children is cruel .... But what do you think about yourself? I mean your point of view.