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Postby chileanueva » Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:31 pm

Odbo is the most angriest and bitter person in existence of forum history. His erratic posts are clear evidence of the deranged mental state of his inner vulnerability.

His rants and conspiracy theories, which are blatantly racist and paranoid, are only making him look like a fool. His hostile attitude towards other people shows the destructive turmoil of his psyche.

In simple terms, Odbo needs a free hug from everyone. Since Odbo's sexuality is questionable at best, voluntary blowjobs from homeless bums with no teeth are acceptable. It would calm the ANGRY and HOSTILE tone of Odbo's words. It would cause gentleness in his soul.

Odbo, you need a hug. You need to get laid. You need to take your meds. You need to get a life because your ranting posts are just too sad.

I pity you Odbo. Love, God.
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Postby Camp38 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:34 am

Be careful you are generalizing concerning his posts, many of which actually contain suitable links for anyone to examine the source. It is important to note that many conspiracy theories often arise from evidence. Once the government releases an explanation of a particular event, conspiracy theories develop because evidence exists that disproves or calls their explanations into question. There is nothing insane or dubious about questioning the government's explanation, unless of course, sanity is defined as believing everything the government tells you. Being that the government lies to us regularly, believing everything the government tells you falls under utter stupidity, not sanity. Modern politics are rife with collusive corruption, double speak and double standards. In the U.S., history has a way of repeating itself because too many Americans never learn from their previous mistakes, never ask questions and never question anything due to naive false perception, ignorance, fear of ridicule and utter subjugation of authority in the form of government and organized religion.

Finally consider the fact that many such conspiracy theories that were publicly denounced and ridiculed have indeed turned out to be true such as:

The Tuskegee Syphilis Study: The United States Public Health Service carried out this clinical study on 400 poor, African-American men with syphilis from 1932 to 1972. During the study the men were given false and sometimes dangerous treatments, and adequate treatment was intentionally withheld so the agency could learn more about the disease. While the study was initially supposed to last just six months, it continued for 40 years. Close to 200 of the men died from syphilis or related complications by the end of the study.

The acceptance of "False Flag" attacks committed by US authorities:

Operation Northwoods: In the early 1960s, American military leaders drafted plans to create public support for a war against Cuba, to oust Fidel Castro from power. The plans included committing acts of terrorism in U.S. cities, killing innocent people and U.S. soldiers, blowing up a U.S. ship, assassinating Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees, and hijacking planes. The plans were all approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but were reportedly rejected by the civilian leadership, then kept secret for nearly 40 years.

There are numerous others including the infamous, Gulf of Tonkin incident, CIA Operation Paperclip, MKUltra experiments and LA drug running to fund Iran-Contra scandal and probably the most relevant one to come to fruition, in light of the economic crisis worldwide is the conspiracy surrounding the passage of the Federal Reserve Act and establishment of the Federal Reserve central bank.

A good summation of some of these once considered outrageous/ludicrous theories and now accepted as reality can be found here:

http://www.infowars.com/33-conspiracy-t ... hould-know

To be fair, there is probably enough false evidence to outright disprove many conspiracy theories as well. This is fine as long as people and society do not eliminate through group think word control, the ability of individuals to question any subject with viable concerns which may result in revealing a hidden truth. Once that option is no longer available, you have to question the very society and the people around you who would support such control mechanisms. After all, we are not talking about yelling fire in the proverbial crowded theater.

A relevant quote concerning "truth" from Arthur Schopenhauer was that "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
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Postby Twobrains » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:20 am

I find it extremely suspicious that Chileanueva, a newbie who joined just two days ago, has such strong feelings about Odbo already. I think they must have some history on here. Who are you, Chileaneuva?
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Postby Billy » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:48 am

Though Konrad ist right, odbo needs at least a double hug.
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Postby IntoTheWild » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:13 pm

I'll send a hot Aryan-looking hooker ;) No, two!
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Postby Billy » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:37 pm

You must be kidding. A true aryan girl. No wait a true nordic girl.
No f**k it.

Let´s give him the nordiest one. An escimo chick. Nordish by nature ;-).

Btw, how are the escimo chicks? How do they look? I heard they are cool.lol
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Postby Winston » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:39 pm

I agree with your analysis Camp38. Good points.

Much of all this info regarding conspiracies is ambiguous. One can only speculate regarding the agenda behind conspiracies because it's all a secret of course. However, let's try to apply some common sense here.

All this conspiracy stuff is too black and white, almost like a religion. The elite can't be all "evil forces of darkness" vs. us the "innocent good guys". That is too black and white, with an "us vs. them" mentality, and more like what religions preach. In reality, the world is very complex and is not that black and white. There must be some good people among the elite. They can't all be "the bad guys" like characters in some movie, can they? People in real life are not all good or all bad (like in the movies); they are a mixture of the two.

It's also hard to believe that so many people could be in on something and agree to it. In reality, it's very hard to get a lot of people to all agree without dissent to being in on the same agenda, especially people in power and high places since these types are used to getting their way, not being told what to do. The elite have very big egos, so imagine how much harder it would be to get them to all agree on some secret agenda.

Humans tend to fight and disagree, especially since they are governed by an innate moral conscience which is both in their DNA and in the "morphic resonance" energy field (coined by Rupert Sheldrake) that all living things share. It's too far fetched to believe that these "shadow elite" are all some collective hive mind that is plotting sinister things against the world, as though they were all "minions of the dark side of the Force".

Nevertheless, conspiracies do exist. The only question is: What kind of conspiracies exist? Are we talking about a secret Illuminati NWO one world government agenda? Or just corrupt politicians seeking power and wealth? Is there a fantastic conspiracy involving UFO's, Aliens and secret technology? Or just politicians with mundane dirty secrets involving money laundering scams, under the table deals, arms deals, sex scandals, and other mundane types of unethical behavior, lies and cover ups?

Also, is every country in on this? Or just the US elite? It's too far fetched to believe that the governments of all 200 countries of the world would all agree to be in on something.

All we know for sure are:

- The media and government often lie and fabricate things.

- There is definitely a shadow government that works outside of the democratic process and public scrutiny, to implement big changes that the elite think tanks want that would take too long if the public were involved. The Iran Contra Scandal revealed that shadow governments do exist. This shadow government is involved in a lot of sinister operations, but for what purpose, we don't know.

- The US military industrial complex and elite class, or whoever runs the USA (it's certainly not the common people), are definitely war mongerers who have a history and pattern of starting ridiculous unnecessary wars that don't make sense. (e.g. Vietnam, Iraq, etc.)They do not tell the public the truth about why they start them, but only give BS copout excuses that don't add up. So we can only speculate and guess on their true motives. All we know for sure is that they love getting involved with wars for some reason. Whatever their true reasons are, they are likely to be very disturbing.

- Too many important figures who would have changed the world for the better had they lived, have been murdered by too many lone nut cases (e.g. JFK, RFK, MLK, John Lennon). Had JFK and RFK lived, the Vietnam War would probably have never happened, millions of lives would have been saved, people would trust their government more, and the CIA/Federal Reserve/Military Industrial Complex (which Eisenhower warned about) may not have hijacked the USA as it has today. So two lone nuts changed the tide of world history for the worse? Yeah right.

Also, if Ralph Nader didn't cost Al Gore the election in 2000, the Iraq War and War on Terror may have never happened, since Al Gore is not a war monger type, and millions of live may have been saved. (assuming of course, that the election was real and that Gore really wanted to win) I wonder how Ralph Nader sleeps at night, knowing that he could have prevented the Iraq War mess had he not stolen votes from Gore. How can one stupid act from one stupid man change the course of the world like that and destroy millions of lives? It's just too convenient.

- The formation of the European Union and attempt to create a North American Union as well, are indicators of a NWO plan, since the formation of these unions would be a logical step they would take in order to consolidate power into an eventual one world government.

However, the key unanswered questions are:

- What is the true agenda of the elite? Are they really seeking to establish a NWO and one world government and have the population microchipped? Or do they just enjoy mind-fucking everyone and reveling in the chaos they create and set up, which they derive a form of "dark ecstasy" from? (a theory proposed by conspiracy researcher and podcast host Jeff Grupp)

- What do they want? Is it just about power, control and profit? Don't they have enough of that? What more do they need? Do they have a more sinister and hidden motive?

- Are the elite of all countries involved in the NWO? Or is it just the US and UK?

- Could the whole NWO thing just be a diversion? Why else would they allow millions of videos about it on YouTube and millions of websites/forums about it to stay up? Is it all part of their plan to incite us into a revolution?

- Even if a NWO or one world government succeeded, how long would it last? History has shown that Empires don't last long without public support. Not even Alexander the Great or Napoleon could hold an Empire together long term. Empires are easily toppled by a combination of many market forces. No elite group can stop that. The elite must know this. Any NWO would be short lived. So I gotta wonder what their real agenda is.

All of this is inconclusive and ambiguous. It's hard to say if there is a NWO plot or not, and if there is, what the plot is really about. The motives don't seem to make any sense.

Any thoughts or comments?
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Postby chileanueva » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:50 pm

In the movie Fast Five, it was explained how the Portuguese colonized Brasil. They took a different approach from the savage Spaniards who used force and religion as their sword and shield. The Portuguese were more tactful in their dealings with the natives, they offered them products and public utlities. The natives were intrigued by the trinkets these foreigners were giving away. They wanted more. The Portuguese convinced an entire native population to be willing slaves by making them believe these products and services were for the top-class or elite.

Like a vampire turning a human into itself, the wealthy and powerful turn the masses into zombie workers who hope to be rich like they are. This is only an illusion, because the lack of moral strength and character cannot save them from their own greedy materialistic downfall.

The shadowy elite or NWO don't have to use blunt force to enslave the population. They use subtle techniques of propaganda, misinformation, and advertising to convince the ignorant, uneducated masses to be willing participants of indentured servitude.

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Postby Winston » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:21 pm

Since I believe in a spiritual/metaphysical realm, here is another theory:

What if some of these lone nut assassinations were not carried out by shadow governments, but were carried out by spiritual entities? What if they were due to a conspiracy from the spiritual realm? For example, Mark David Chapman said that a voice in his head kept telling him to kill John Lennon. Could he have been used by forces from the spiritual realm, to eliminate key people that they needed to get out of the way who were threats to their agenda for humans?

For example, had JFK lived, the Vietnam War wouldn't have happened, and 60,000 Americans and millions of Vietnamese would have been spared. How can one lone nut cause all that? It's just too convenient to buy that lone nuts kill people who would have prevented wars or did some good things (such as usurping the power of the Fed) that would have prevented us from being in the mess we're in.

Had Al Gore won in 2000, we may never have entered the Iraq War, since Gore is not a warmonger. Just because of that stupid guy Ralph Nader, everything F-ed up and went the wrong way off its natural course. How does Nader sleep at night, knowing that one million might be alive today if it wasn't for his stupid act of stealing votes from Gore? It's just too convenient that one stupid person can change everything or change the fate of millions of lives.
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Postby gsjackson » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:07 pm

So the answer to domination by an entrenched elite is to further solidify the two-party system in the US by discouraging third party candidates such as Nader?

You say Al Gore is not a warmonger, but he was part of an administration that was bombing Iraq daily and imposing brutal economic sanctions on the country. The neocons, who planned the invasion of Iraq in 1997, were quite influential in the Clinton administration, and their control of the elite media means they may well have had as much influence on a Gore administration as they had on Bush.

The two parties were virtually indistinguishable on all important issues in 2000, as they are today. Our current economic malaise owes even more to the Clinton administration than it does to Bush's, since the '90s were the time of the most significant deregulation of the financial sector. Nader ran a righteous campaign.

And by the way, Gore wasn't beaten in the 2000 election. Bush was awarded the presidency by a Republican Supreme Court.
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Postby FreeYourMind » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:52 pm

gsjackson wrote:So the answer to domination by an entrenched elite is to further solidify the two-party system in the US by discouraging third party candidates such as Nader?

You say Al Gore is not a warmonger, but he was part of an administration that was bombing Iraq daily and imposing brutal economic sanctions on the country. The neocons, who planned the invasion of Iraq in 1997, were quite influential in the Clinton administration, and their control of the elite media means they may well have had as much influence on a Gore administration as they had on Bush.

The two parties were virtually indistinguishable on all important issues in 2000, as they are today. Our current economic malaise owes even more to the Clinton administration than it does to Bush's, since the '90s were the time of the most significant deregulation of the financial sector. Nader ran a righteous campaign.

And by the way, Gore wasn't beaten in the 2000 election. Bush was awarded the presidency by a Republican Supreme Court.


I agree. It's most obvious that the U.S. has a one party system when it comes to foreign policy. Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate who believes in the traditional American policy of armed neutrality and he is routinely attacked by the corporate media and Dems and Repubs alike as an "isolationist" and "extremist." Washington would have attacked Iraq if Gore had won, just as both parties support the post-9/11 police state (again except for Ron Paul). Independent and third party candidates need to be encouraged and supported otherwise it will continue to be the same old same old as Ron Paul will never be allowed to win the GOP nomination.
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Postby Winston » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:07 pm

gsjackson wrote:So the answer to domination by an entrenched elite is to further solidify the two-party system in the US by discouraging third party candidates such as Nader?

You say Al Gore is not a warmonger, but he was part of an administration that was bombing Iraq daily and imposing brutal economic sanctions on the country. The neocons, who planned the invasion of Iraq in 1997, were quite influential in the Clinton administration, and their control of the elite media means they may well have had as much influence on a Gore administration as they had on Bush.

The two parties were virtually indistinguishable on all important issues in 2000, as they are today. Our current economic malaise owes even more to the Clinton administration than it does to Bush's, since the '90s were the time of the most significant deregulation of the financial sector. Nader ran a righteous campaign.

And by the way, Gore wasn't beaten in the 2000 election. Bush was awarded the presidency by a Republican Supreme Court.


Well I've never heard Al Gore support any wars. He spoke out against the Iraq War and said it was a mockery of the US and brought down the image of America to the rest of the world. A staunch environmentalist like him is not usually pro-war, unless he is forced or threatened.

How can the Clinton Administration be responsible for the economic malaise? During the 90's there was an economic boom and stocks were up. The economy was very optimistic and dotcom companies were thriving.

Nader gave the election to Bush, who turned out to be a criminal who started an unjust war that killed a million people. I'm surprised people like him aren't tried or court martialed in America. It doesn't make sense. If murder is a crime, then why is mass murder legal as long as its approved by a President?

I wonder if Nader realizes that if he hadn't botched Gore's election, that the Iraq War may never have ever started.
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Postby gsjackson » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:32 pm

Winston wrote:[
Well I've never heard Al Gore support any wars. He spoke out against the Iraq War and said it was a mockery of the US and brought down the image of America to the rest of the world. A staunch environmentalist like him is not usually pro-war, unless he is forced or threatened.

How can the Clinton Administration be responsible for the economic malaise? During the 90's there was an economic boom and stocks were up. The economy was very optimistic and dotcom companies were thriving.

Nader gave the election to Bush, who turned out to be a criminal who started an unjust war that killed a million people. I'm surprised people like him aren't tried or court martialed in America. It doesn't make sense. If murder is a crime, then why is mass murder legal as long as its approved by a President?

I wonder if Nader realizes that if he hadn't botched Gore's election, that the Iraq War may never have ever started.


Gore had his eyes opened quite a bit when the election was stolen from him, and for a while there he was thinking and talking like a human being rather than a pol. He may still be. But if there had been a seemless transition from the bellicose Clinton regime to a President Gore there is every reason to think that his foreign policy would have been as responsive to the neocons and their media outlets as Bush's was.

Nineties prosperity was a complete illusion, built on blowing up a stock bubble that had no grounding whatsoever in reality. Everyone thought they were wealthy because they were being told they had this paper wealth in the stock market, and this 'wealth effect,' along with lots of easy credit, fueled substantial consumer spending. I can't tell you how many friends I have who thought retirement was imminent in 1999 who are still working hard today. "The economy was very optimistic and dotcom companies were thriving." Translation: The country went freaking insane, inhaling all the media gas about a 'new economy,' and how everything was different now so no need to pay any attention to whether these companies were actually profitable. Just go ahead and bid their share values up to historically preposterous levels. Worked out great for the big dogs up top who skimmed off their share at the IPO's and left all the small fry investors holding the bag when the dotbomb bubble burst.

Yeah, Nader hears all the time from people like you who tell him he cost Gore the election, but he's smart enough not to pay any attention to nonsense.
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Postby gsjackson » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:38 pm

FreeYourMind wrote:[I agree. It's most obvious that the U.S. has a one party system when it comes to foreign policy. Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate who believes in the traditional American policy of armed neutrality and he is routinely attacked by the corporate media and Dems and Repubs alike as an "isolationist" and "extremist." Washington would have attacked Iraq if Gore had won, just as both parties support the post-9/11 police state (again except for Ron Paul). Independent and third party candidates need to be encouraged and supported otherwise it will continue to be the same old same old as Ron Paul will never be allowed to win the GOP nomination.


Over the last several months I've heard many times from 'pundits' something like this: "I think we can all stipulate that Ron Paul won't get the Republican nomination." I would look at the last name of the speaker or writer and every time his ethnic origin would be obvious. The reason they felt so certain Paul wouldn't get the nomination, despite the fact that he always polled well among Republicans, is they knew that Israel and its kept American media would never allow it.
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Postby FreeYourMind » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:43 am

The GOP establishment will throw Ron Paul a bone by "allowing" him to speak at the GOP convention then hope he just goes away. I hope he goes third party, there seems to be no hope of the U.S. not becoming a totalitarian police state if anyone else is elected.
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