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I don't belong in an extroverted country

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Postby Billy » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:51 pm

Recently I´ve read about testosterone. I think that extros have more testo. That is the reason that they have more energy. With a high level you feel like a king whey channelled properly. I think intros have more difficulty in that regard. But they on the other hand have the chance to connect with people as they get more emotional and emphatic.
But I need my teso level high otherwise I get depressed so I push myself to energize mysel. yeah ;-)
I think on this site most guys have low testo level wheras at roosh the guys have a higher level. Most things are determined in the genes. I already mentioned the correlation of a finger with testo leve. Get your level high guys. Testo rules. We are MAN, yeah :)
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Postby dEX » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:58 pm

Does anyone here have experiences living in Finland? From what I've read it seems to be the most introverted country.
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Postby OzGuy » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:00 am

dEX wrote:Does anyone here have experiences living in Finland? From what I've read it seems to be the most introverted country.


Interesting you should say this. On interpals there seems to be a lot of highly introverted women from Finland compared to other European countries. A lot of them also have interests such as reading, gaming, and even computers.

I think I will have to speak to more girls from Finland. Be careful though, apparently it is one of the most feminist countries in Europe.

From what i've seen, the further south you go in Europe, the more extroverted the women are. Think of Italy, Spain, Greece etc. I have a theory that the colder the climate is in a country, the more introverted the people are. Although the UK would be an exception to this rule.
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Postby lavezzi » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:27 am

Hmmm.. I think what you're talking about is the rule of how extroverted YOU must be in order to be successful with women in a given country, not necessarily how extroverted the people generally are in that country. For example in much poorer countries, like the Philippines, people are generally very extroverted but an introvert can still do well there due to his financial advantage. I think a more correct title for this thread would be "I hate living in a country where a high level of exuberance is necessarily to be successful with women".

Ireland is BY FAR the worst for this. Men here are expected to be both a professional clown and comedian to even be considered. If you're an introvert in this country and you don't want to be celibate your entire life, your destiny is either the airport or here: http://www.escort-ireland.com/home.html.
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Postby lavezzi » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:30 am

I just read the OP and realized you weren't talking exclusively about women, I apologize for my mistake. But also, I'd like to change what I said about about women from poorer countries only being interested in introverts for financial reasons. Of course money plays a part in it along with social status, but there is a much deeper aspect involved apart from that. Western women, particularly in Anglo nations, are held in such high regard and appreciated so thoroughly by society as a whole that they see no reason to seek validation from one person in a relationship. So their interest in men is simply for excitement and entertainment purposes; they only consider a man's superficial character which is gauged by his level of exuberance. In poorer countries, women are held in much lower regard and appreciated much less, therefore they feel a need to seek validation in a relationship and are willing to look past a man's lack of exuberance and into his real character in how caring, appreciative and loving he is. Besides, I think every man has it in them to be exuberant enough to initially intrigue a woman, but certain (Western) societies make one feel insecure which represses this ability. When venturing into a far less judgmental and insecure country, men will most likely find that spark from within them.
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Postby Winston » Tue May 01, 2012 2:47 pm

Isn't this thread sort of a paradox? I mean, if most Americans are extroverts (and probably most people in the world are too), then how can they be so cliquish and anti-social? Yet, most of us here are introverts, and we can talk to strangers easily, as long as they are genuine of course. So how can we be more open, yet introverted, while mainstream people who are extroverts are more cliquish and don't talk to strangers without a proper introduction or unless they drink alcohol first? Isn't that paradoxical? lol

Based on the data above, I would guess that places like big cities are mostly populated by extroverts, unless they have no choice but to live there. An introvert would feel drained by all the stimulation of a big city and view it as an intrusion into his inner world. Likewise, dance clubs and parties are filled up of mostly extroverts as well, since such types feel bored when alone, because they have no inner life. They get energy from others, and don't get drained from too much interaction like introverts do.
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Postby sushiman » Tue May 01, 2012 3:10 pm

dEX wrote:Does anyone here have experiences living in Finland? From what I've read it seems to be the most introverted country.


It sure seemed that way too me. Reminded me of Seattle but even shittier, if thats possible. My theory is the weather in these places forces people to become more isolated and introverted.

I know there are a lot of fat and depressed people there, the food is shit, wouldn't recommend that hell hole personally! :)
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Postby Jackal » Tue May 01, 2012 3:16 pm

dEX wrote:Does anyone here have experiences living in Finland? From what I've read it seems to be the most introverted country.

I've been to Finland many times, but I've never dated a Finnish woman. Some Finns are always introverted, but others open up and are a lot of fun after they get to know you well.

OzGuy wrote:I think I will have to speak to more girls from Finland. Be careful though, apparently it is one of the most feminist countries in Europe.

Yes, a lot of Finnish women are annoying feminists, but a lot of them are sweet, too.

I think you are more likely to find sweet Finnish women in smaller cities and towns, especially further north (you better not hate the cold... lol).

In Helsinki, you'll often find feminist women who will think you're nothing if you don't have several advanced degrees and a good job.
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Re: I don't belong in an extroverted country

Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Tue May 01, 2012 3:43 pm

OzGuy wrote:I am hoping in Europe that the women prefer quiet, intelligent men with more substance.


In Europe women prefer men who are willing to be man-slaves...the same as women everywhere. Do NOT be thinking women here are any different to anywhere else in that they want babies and money and someone to pay for those babies and money. The difference is that in eastern europe women tend to be nicer to men because men can leave them without any trouble at all. Eastern european men do not put up with the shit western men do.

Some EEW can be really nasty. My fav#3 had a mother who was really nasty to her father. That is why she believed my comments about Jennifer. She saw it in her own mother. But think of this OzGuy.

In a good year I make EUR200,000. I am at the top of my profession worldwide. I have traveled extensively. I live a lifestyle that less than 1% of people enjoy. I am tall. Handsome. Very intelligent. Very well spoken. I treat women very well. Better than most have been treated in their life. And I am STILL not good enough unless I am willing to be a man-slave.

Let that sink if for a bit. The ONLY interest women have in me is my wallet. And I am perfectly ok with that.

Men who think women are interested in them as a man are delusional. And most do not like to come out of that delusion.
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Postby Winston » Tue May 01, 2012 3:46 pm

sushiman wrote:
dEX wrote:Does anyone here have experiences living in Finland? From what I've read it seems to be the most introverted country.


It sure seemed that way too me. Reminded me of Seattle but even shittier, if thats possible. My theory is the weather in these places forces people to become more isolated and introverted.

I know there are a lot of fat and depressed people there, the food is shit, wouldn't recommend that hell hole personally! :)


I wouldn't say people in Seattle are introverted. Just because people are cliquish, antisocial, reserved and don't like to meet people, doesn't make them introverted. Most of us here are introverts, yet we talk to strangers openly.

billy wrote:Recently I´ve read about testosterone. I think that extros have more testo. That is the reason that they have more energy. With a high level you feel like a king whey channelled properly. I think intros have more difficulty in that regard. But they on the other hand have the chance to connect with people as they get more emotional and emphatic.
But I need my teso level high otherwise I get depressed so I push myself to energize mysel. yeah
I think on this site most guys have low testo level wheras at roosh the guys have a higher level. Most things are determined in the genes. I already mentioned the correlation of a finger with testo leve. Get your level high guys. Testo rules. We are MAN, yeah


That may be a factor. But the articles I read said it's about brain chemistry. See here:

http://briankim.net/blog/2007/10/top-5- ... ntroverts/

Introverts have more brain activity in their frontal lobes and when these areas are activated through solitary activity, introverts become energized through processes such as problem solving, introspection, and complex thinking.

Extroverts on the other hand tend to have more activity in the back of their brain, areas that deal with processing sensory information from the external world, so they tend to search for external stimuli in the form of interacting with other people and the outside world to energize them.

There’s a deeper science to this that involves differences in the levels of brain chemicals such as acetylcholine and dopamine in extroverts and introverts, but I won’t get into that.

The bottom line is that introverts are just wired differently than extroverts. There’s nothing “wrongâ€￾ with them. They just become energized through different processes depending on where the majority of their brain activity takes place.


http://www.carlkingdom.com/10-myths-about-introverts

A section of Laney’s book (page 71 through page 75) maps out the human brain and explains how neuro-transmitters follow different dominant paths in the nervous systems of Introverts and Extroverts. If the science behind the book is correct, it turns out that Introverts are people who are over-sensitive to Dopamine, so too much external stimulation overdoses and exhausts them. Conversely, Extroverts can’t get enough Dopamine, and they require Adrenaline for their brains to create it. Extroverts also have a shorter pathway and less blood-flow to the brain. The messages of an Extrovert’s nervous system mostly bypass the Broca’s area in the frontal lobe, which is where a large portion of contemplation takes place.
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Re: I don't belong in an extroverted country

Postby FREEDOM1 » Wed May 02, 2012 12:51 am

PeterAndrewNolan wrote:
OzGuy wrote:I am hoping in Europe that the women prefer quiet, intelligent men with more substance.


In Europe women prefer men who are willing to be man-slaves...the same as women everywhere. Do NOT be thinking women here are any different to anywhere else in that they want babies and money and someone to pay for those babies and money. The difference is that in eastern europe women tend to be nicer to men because men can leave them without any trouble at all. Eastern european men do not put up with the shit western men do.

Some EEW can be really nasty. My fav#3 had a mother who was really nasty to her father. That is why she believed my comments about Jennifer. She saw it in her own mother. But think of this OzGuy.

In a good year I make EUR200,000. I am at the top of my profession worldwide. I have traveled extensively. I live a lifestyle that less than 1% of people enjoy. I am tall. Handsome. Very intelligent. Very well spoken. I treat women very well. Better than most have been treated in their life. And I am STILL not good enough unless I am willing to be a man-slave.

Let that sink if for a bit. The ONLY interest women have in me is my wallet. And I am perfectly ok with that.

Men who think women are interested in them as a man are delusional. And most do not like to come out of that delusion.



Fair enough

Well these women shouldn't complain if men think

of them as only something to f**k

2 can play this game

all is fair in love and war
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Postby ExpeditionSailor » Wed May 02, 2012 2:03 am

Winston wrote:I remember reading in books about the acting profession, that introverts were actually better actors than extroverts. Do any of you know why that might be?


Probably the ability to apply a greater mental focus to the task at hand. Extroverts are sometimes too busy wondering where/when the next party is.
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Postby jamesbond » Wed May 02, 2012 1:10 pm

Winston wrote:If most Americans are extroverts (and probably most people in the world are too), then how can they be so cliquish and anti-social? Yet, most of us here are introverts, and we can talk to strangers easily, as long as they are genuine of course. So how can we be more open, yet introverted, while mainstream people who are extroverts are more cliquish and don't talk to strangers without a proper introduction or unless they drink alcohol first? Isn't that paradoxical? lol

That's a good point. Extroverts are NOT friendly to strangers, they only are friendly to people that they already know. Introverts on the other hand, are friendly to strangers as long the strangers seem like nice genuine people.

Extroverts are very cliquish and anti-social. Just go to any bar or club and you will see people who are loud and outgoing and seem to be the life of the party. These same people only talk to people that they already know and they do not talk to strangers.

Party animals are a good example of this. They seem friendly but in reality if your not part of their click of friends, you won't be able to become friends with them. I find it funny that extroverts can only be outgoing and be the life of the party if they drink alcohol first. They need alcohol as a crutch to prop themselves up.

Introverts don't need to get drunk in order to meet people. This is why you don't see many introverts at bars and clubs, they don't like the phony atmosphere and all the shallow people who like going to bars and clubs.
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