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Postby ethan_sg » Tue May 29, 2012 6:03 pm

The thing is in the past or even currently in less commercialized, corporate, alienating societies, the process of helping individuals within one's community/neighborhood wouldn't even be commercialized into a business.

We've reached a point where the formerly very natural act of spontaneously helping one another within one's community has to be bought and exchanged for a price, and nothing comes naturally and free anymore, it's every man for himself.

But humans were born to cooperate and be communal, not to compete our whole lives. The system we live under has divided and conquered us.

And when even the concept of help is commercialized and businesses coldly come in to fill the void created by the disappearance of spontaneous organic community, and money is paid for the services offered, this is then recorded by governments as an economic activity which is a contribution to a country's GDP and by extension, 'economic growth'.

'Economic growth' is then considered a determinant of 'quality of living', because economic growth has increased by the provision of this service in exchange for money, 'quality of living' is therefore taken to have increased.

The reality is that this service is only filling a void created by the disappearance of organic community where this help would have been provided for free. This service also probably fills that void less adequately (would you be rather taken care of by a community of friends and relatives or by strangers) and is conditional - offered only to those who can afford it.

In actuality it is a decrease in quality of living, but is measured as economic growth. This is one of many aspects of modern life in developed countries that reflect how economic growth does not necessarily mean an increase in quality of living (in fact it can often reflect a decrease) and is only offered to those who can afford it. The need for a service often reflects the void created by the disappearance of organic community.

In fact many things such as consumption and the materialism drive serve as an artificial but ultimately empty attempt to fill the emptiness created by a lack of community and the obliteration of public space for spontaneous communal activities, usurped by governments and corporations for commercial purposes.








PeterAndrewNolan wrote:Hi Winston,
actually a colleague and I talked about this 2 years ago. I have a bad back and I injured it and slipped a disk. I was confined pretty much to bed for two weeks. My mate came to bring me food and also to take washing to the laundry and things like that. This is because I do not have any friends in the building I was living in.

I was thinking at the time that some enterprising man should start a service where he offers help to single men (or even women I guess) who are ill or in need. Just a cell number to call in the local area. In most cities in Europe people live so closely together that a cell phone number to call in case of need would be a useful thing. This is the sort of job ANY man could do. Especially students or men working from home.

I would really encourage young men to start businesses in their local communities. The businesses that could be started are endless. Another example is simply doing normal household chores. For example getting the shopping or washing and ironing shirts or taking them to the laundry to be washed and ironed. I would pay a student EUR5 a throw to bring my shopping to my place and EUR5 a throw for taking my shirts to the laundry and bring them back. Since I live mostly in an area with HUNDREDS of apartments around me I am surprised some enterprising young lad has not figured out to print up business cards, create a web site, and offer these kinds of services to the people living right around him. Single men value their time over their money mostly. Especially older single men like me.

Another example of how society is breaking down. My fav#3 went home to the czech republic for christmas a couple of years back. There was a LOT of snow. So much that she could not get out of the house. Her brother refused to dig the snow and clear a path because he did not want to go out and "women are equal" anyway. So she dug the snow. Because she is female and she is smaller and weaker she got a very bad cold that turned into pneumonia when she was back in Frankfurt. As per usual we were trading texts etc and she did not say one thing about being sick.

When we caught up for a dinner date she was in TERRIBLE shape but said she was MUCH IMPROVED. I asked her what happened. She said she ran out of clothes and almost ran out of food in her apartment because she had been in bed FOR A WEEK!!! I was FURIOUS AT HER. I berated her severely and told her that she should have called me or some other friend to help her. I was just ONE HOUR by train away at the time and had nothing else I was doing. I would have been more than happy to stay at her place and look after her of hire a car to bring her to my place to look after her. My place is much larger so it would have been easier.

After I calmed down I asked her why she had not called me or any of her friends. She said "If I called someone to help me when I was sick then if they were sick and called me I would have to help them."

I was STAGGERED at the comment. I really was. I explained THAT IS WHAT FRIENDS ARE FOR!!!

That is how bad it is getting. And this is the NICEST woman I have ever met. The nicest temperament I have ever seen in another human being. And HOT too! Men would fall all over themselves to help her.
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Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Tue May 29, 2012 6:23 pm

ethan_sg wrote:The thing is in the past or even currently in less commercialized, corporate, alienating societies, the process of helping individuals within one's community/neighborhood wouldn't even be commercialized into a business.

Ethan,
very true. When I was 14 my Dad had back trouble and was in great pain and confined to bed for two weeks. My mum never left his side. Now. That could be because she loved him or it could be because she was afraid of having to care for him for the remainder of his life like that, who knows. I prefer to believe it was because she loved him.

Because there were still us three boys at home my aunts would bring food, do the laundry, cleaning etc. There was no need for anyone to pay for anything. It was all just done by the women of the family and our neighbors.

Compare that to when I slipped two disks in 96 and was confined to bed for two weeks. After coming down from the painkiller high after 48 hours I was very hungry and thirsty. I asked my WIFE to bring me food and water. Her response was "Why should I wait on you? What am I? Your slave?"

Today a man can not even rely on his WIFE to bring him food when he is in great need and is injured.

THAT is how bad it has gotten.

Further? In order to stop the murder by proxy of many men (the estimate being 4,000 a year in Australia) I have asked AT LEAST 10,000 MEN TO HELP ME.

You know how many are doing as I asked? ONE...John Rambo...aka boycottamericanwomen on this site.

ONE MAN IS HELPING ME AS I ASK.

I have spent nearly 4,000 hours, four years, $A500,000. I didn't need to be asked. I just did it because it is right. And only ONE MAN is putting in some time to help me.

Here is the question.

Why would I have respect for ANY MEN who refuse to help me stop the murder by proxy of so many men in Australia?



The issue is NOT the Illuminati.

The issue is NOT THE SYSTEM.

The issue is NOT THE LAW.

The issue is that MEN ARE SO GREEDY AND SELFISH AND SELF CENTERED THEY WILL NOT HELP THEIR BROTHER IN NEED.


I asked men on this forum to help me with the world passport. Something that pretty much EVERY man on this forum would benefit from and MOST would desire.

How many men have agreed to help me with the world passport from this place.

ONE.

And you men here can not even see why that is disgusting to me and disgraceful for you. You are so selfish you can not see your selfishness. You point to article like the one for this link and say "gee, things a bad in japan, people are not helping one another"...but you men here never stop to look inside and look at YOURSELF. You keep looking outward because if you looked inward you would be too disgusted in what you would see.

It is the same in the MRM/MRA area. Men are disgracefully selfish and self centered to go hand in hand with their stupidity, ignorance and arrogance about being stupid and ignorant.

I have worked VERY hard to bring the truth and the remedy to the for because I sincerely believed in my heart that men were decent people just like me in the main and would wish to stop the murder by proxy of other men and would wish to defend the children from their land.

My very hard won lesson is that men are disgusting, selfish, self centered, stupid, ignorant, arrogant people who do not care in the least about their fellow man in the 99.9% majority. No one is holding a gun to their head making them that way. They just ARE THAT WAY. I have been VERY shocked to find out just how disgusting and selfish men are today. Very shocked indeed. No wonder the Illuminati want to kill you off as "useless eaters". They would be right,

Men whine about how "selfish" women are while being EVEN MORE SELFISH themselves.

You know I am right because you know how many men I have asked to help me and that only ONE man is doing so. Sure. There are lots of EXCUSES. But they are just that. Excuses. Mostly lies.

I OFTEN say that I am FAR more disgusted in MEN than I am in women.

So let me repeat that.

I have asked at LEAST 10,000 men to help me stop the murder by proxy of men and only ONE is doing what I ask.

THAT sums up MEN.

And because 99.9% of western men are disgusting, selfish, self centered, stupid, ignorant, arrogant people who do not care in the least about their fellow man I have HAD to commercialise the MBA and commercialise my time to help other men. If I do not commercialise these two things they will not be able to continue to exist because of the selfishness of MEN.

And what do these disgusting, selfish, self centered, stupid, ignorant, arrogant MEN who have refused to help me stop the murder by proxy of men say about ME? A man who has willingly spent nearly 4,000 hours and $A500,000? They CALL ME selfish or a "scammer" or "money hungry" or "crazy". You name it I have been called it.

So each man who reads this would be well advised to take a good hard long look in the mirror and ask himself what HE has done for his fellow men of late. My guess is that 99.9% of the men who read this will answer that question with a big fat ZERO.

For example. With the number of men here? You could go over to the MRM/MRA area and you could DEMAND that the truth about the family courts be exposed and you could DEMAND that men join CAF to set up courts to give men a path to justice.

I have BEGGED and PLEADED with men to spread the word and to join up to CAF for more than a year. But they will not do it. That is how disgusting and selfish men are today.

All they offer as an excuse is "it will not work". It sure as hell will not work if no one tries!!
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Postby boycottamericanwomen » Wed May 30, 2012 5:16 am

Look at what can happen if two MRAs work together. THe power of cooperation.

Already I was doing so much to spread anti-feminism with my Boycott blog. And already Peter was doing a lot to spread the truth through his CAF site. When I met him through Facebook, I noticed that he is actually DOING SOMETHING, instead of just whining, like 99.9 percent of MRAs, so I decided to help him.

Together, we have accomplished quite a lot. We've exposed MANY man hating western women and MANGINAS. Some of these exposes have gotten over 4000 plus hits. So we've done a LOT in that area.

Peter's written two books. Helping him spread the books, they have both been read by thousands of men. So that is thousands of men's lives that we are potentially saving.

Peter is setting up a new common law court system that will put on trial all of the criminal judges, lawyers, politicians, and feminists/manginas.

Now, before ANYONE else here criticizes either one of us, the question I want to ask you is:

What have YOU done? Have you done anything even remotely similar to what we have done? If not, then you have no right to criticize us.
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Postby boycottamericanwomen » Wed May 30, 2012 5:20 am

One extra point: I hope no one here dares to accuse us of being the same person.

As most people here can testify. I was posting to this forum over a year ago, and I never mentioned anything about Peter Nolan, or CAF, etc. That is because I had not met him yet. And Peter only recently joined this forum.

Even the ASIO government agent idiots can't figure out that we are two different people. I am surprised by that, because I thought that the government intelligence services have a very high level of surveillance, but I guess I was wrong on that. CIA/ASIO is a f***ing JOKE!
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Postby Blue Murder » Wed May 30, 2012 5:41 am

PeterAndrewNolan wrote:ONE MAN IS HELPING ME AS I ASK.


Yeah. Because it isn't like I (1) publicly defended you multiple times and continue to do so, (2) joined the MBA -- or am trying to at least, (3) took a genuine interest in your history and (4) even tried to get to know you on a personal level. And let's not forget me spreading the word to, AS WELL AS asking to be put on your mailing list.

Yeah. Only Boycott is helping you. Not Blue Murder -- oh no.
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Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Thu May 31, 2012 9:12 pm

Blue Murder wrote:
PeterAndrewNolan wrote:ONE MAN IS HELPING ME AS I ASK.


Yeah. Because it isn't like I (1) publicly defended you multiple times and continue to do so, (2) joined the MBA -- or am trying to at least, (3) took a genuine interest in your history and (4) even tried to get to know you on a personal level. And let's not forget me spreading the word to, AS WELL AS asking to be put on your mailing list.

Yeah. Only Boycott is helping you. Not Blue Murder -- oh no.


Blue,
John Rambo has spent DAYS AND DAYS assisting me AS I ASK HIM TO. You have a long way to go to get to his level of assisting as asked.

Do not take that the wrong way. I am pleased you want to join MBA and I am pleased you are spreading the word. But you are far from alone in doing that. I have more than 200 members of CAF and many of them are sending our my personal emails to THOUSANDS more people.

I have two men who are willing to serve as secretary of the courts in Brisbane and Melbourne in Australia. They know that is to risk their lives but one is 85 whos background I do not wish to disclose and the other is an ex serviceman in Australia who laughs and says "well I risked my life plenty in the army".

There are a LOT of men who are doing their bit. But only ONE where I can send him an email and ask for a job to be done and it WILL be done.

My question is why can't I find more men to do that? Its not like I am asking anyone to jump off a cliff or commit a crime. I have been asking men to post into public places THEIR opinions and to explain to people what common law is about and what courts are about and why we need new courts because out guvments are criminals and the existing courts are a criminal cartel. I have asked for so little because so little has been offered.

Many of the men on my personal list were running their own efforts before they met me and wish to continue to run their own efforts. We are now getting some small amount of consensus in Australia around new courts because our existing courts have been proven to be such a joke.
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Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Thu May 31, 2012 9:16 pm

ethan_sg wrote:The thing is in the past or even currently in less commercialized, corporate, alienating societies, the process of helping individuals within one's community/neighborhood wouldn't even be commercialized into a business.

Ethan,
I think this is worth its own thread as a discussion. The commercialisation of "helping those in need". It is an abhorrent thing but that is what is happening.
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Postby D_Athlete » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:09 am

ethan_sg wrote:No one's going to feel sorry for you if you die alone, don't you worry about that, especially since if you're dying alone it means virtually no one knows or is at least close to you.

I don't think the issue here is about feeling sorry. The issue here is why society, and in particular Japanese society in this case is becoming so warped that more and more people are becoming so isolated that they die without anyone really knowing or caring about their deaths.

Living alone may be the lesser of 2 evils if the alternative is to live with some femi-nazi self entitled bitch. Then the question to ask would be why then are there so many femi-nazi self entitled bitches around, which is from what I've read, a big contributory reason to why so many Japanese men are left single and alone?


Interesting.

I've actually heard the exact opposite of Japanese women; that most of them treat their men like kings--or at the very least--much, MUCH better than any western/white woman would ever treat you. Maybe this only applies to foreign guys only?

Although apparently it's not uncommon for them to do a complete 180 and turn into cheating psychos once you actually marry them.
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Postby green1976 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:45 am

D_Athlete wrote:
ethan_sg wrote:No one's going to feel sorry for you if you die alone, don't you worry about that, especially since if you're dying alone it means virtually no one knows or is at least close to you.

I don't think the issue here is about feeling sorry. The issue here is why society, and in particular Japanese society in this case is becoming so warped that more and more people are becoming so isolated that they die without anyone really knowing or caring about their deaths.

Living alone may be the lesser of 2 evils if the alternative is to live with some femi-nazi self entitled bitch. Then the question to ask would be why then are there so many femi-nazi self entitled bitches around, which is from what I've read, a big contributory reason to why so many Japanese men are left single and alone?


Interesting.

I've actually heard the exact opposite of Japanese women; that most of them treat their men like kings--or at the very least--much, MUCH better than any western/white woman would ever treat you. Maybe this only applies to foreign guys only?

Although apparently it's not uncommon for them to do a complete 180 and turn into cheating psychos once you actually marry them.


As far as i know they are 2 Japan:The traditional and the modern.

The traditional is what you could consider a patriarchal society where women have the caring attitude devoted to housework and taking care of their men and children.

The modern Japan is going away from that, as Japanese females are now independent,working,having no more need to become a housewife.

Japanese men are becoming more and more feminine(herbivore,crossdressing,female fashion),they have lost of what make Japan a military power and this should have to do with losing WW2.
If someone visited the Japan of the 30's and compared with now,for sure they would be huge differences.

Japan has one of the most huge pornographic industry in the world.
They have all kind of fetishes,men are ready to pay just for taking pictures of some ladies,they are only women wagon in transportation because of groping,a lot of people are virgin after 30.

I was looking at a documentary talking how dolls are gaining popularity and the conceptor acknowledged that many men where sexually frustrated.

Men are different than females and suffer more of this,so the solution was to provide these men with dolls so they could do their stuff without falling apart.

It just tell where they are heading for..they cannot even find a way to stop this male female loneliness epidemic without resorting to strange solution.

Just look wherever you go in SEA how these Japanese guys are overrepresented in any p4p venues.

In BKK they have their own clubs,theirs own massage shops.
They pay silly prices,asking some crazy shit.

The Japan of the past is dying..i just think as the government in Japan try to make people have babies,that their strategy is almost condemned to fail.

Same as if somebody wanted to reverse the feminist process in the US.

Probably the same is occurring in SK right now.

More and more men there are doing exactly what most of us do here,going abroad to find a decent wife or sex,because where they are,women consider themselves to be princess.
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Postby Blue Murder » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:56 am

PeterAndrewNolan wrote:Blue,
John Rambo has spent DAYS AND DAYS assisting me AS I ASK HIM TO. You have a long way to go to get to his level of assisting as asked.

Do not take that the wrong way. I am pleased you want to join MBA and I am pleased you are spreading the word. But you are far from alone in doing that. I have more than 200 members of CAF and many of them are sending our my personal emails to THOUSANDS more people.

I have two men who are willing to serve as secretary of the courts in Brisbane and Melbourne in Australia. They know that is to risk their lives but one is 85 whos background I do not wish to disclose and the other is an ex serviceman in Australia who laughs and says "well I risked my life plenty in the army".

There are a LOT of men who are doing their bit. But only ONE where I can send him an email and ask for a job to be done and it WILL be done.

My question is why can't I find more men to do that? Its not like I am asking anyone to jump off a cliff or commit a crime. I have been asking men to post into public places THEIR opinions and to explain to people what common law is about and what courts are about and why we need new courts because out guvments are criminals and the existing courts are a criminal cartel. I have asked for so little because so little has been offered.

Many of the men on my personal list were running their own efforts before they met me and wish to continue to run their own efforts. We are now getting some small amount of consensus in Australia around new courts because our existing courts have been proven to be such a joke.


Sigh. Like I said in the other thread, I give up.
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Women-only train cars in Japan

Postby ethan_sg » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:45 am

Very informative post green1976.

Japan has been undergoing commercialization and urbanization for more than a century now and has been exposed to the West for a long time. They even have their own brand of feminism. Being the most advanced and urbanized Asian country, my fear is that many other Asian countries will one day head the way of Japan. While Japan is probably the worst off, there are many signs that countries like South Korea and Singapore are headed that way. The 'entitled princess' mentality is rife among the women in these countries.

Women-only train cars?? Thanks for bringing that up - I didn't know about that. Men aren't allowed to enter certain train-cars in Japan. Kinda like how in the past in America, non-whites weren't allowed in certain places. This is hard evidence that feminism is turning men into second class citizens! Have a look at this article:

http://www.odditycentral.com/pics/japans-anti-groping-women-only-train-cars.html

In Singapore (and I think this is the case with quite a few western countries too) there are many clubs where women can enter free or for a lower cover charge while men always have to pay more. On 'ladies' night' in Singapore many clubs offer free or discounted drink prices to women but men once again have to pay the full amount. Some clubs offer free/discounted drinks to women only every night. I know it's a marketing tool but the fact that such discriminatory practices are accepted as mainstream and acceptable marketing tools with no one raising an eyebrow is a symptom of the feminist times. Men are second class citizens in these countries.

Check out the article below on Ladies' Night in Singapore.

http://www.travelfish.org/blogs/singapore/2011/06/29/ladies-nights-in-singapore

green1976 wrote:
D_Athlete wrote:
ethan_sg wrote:No one's going to feel sorry for you if you die alone, don't you worry about that, especially since if you're dying alone it means virtually no one knows or is at least close to you.

I don't think the issue here is about feeling sorry. The issue here is why society, and in particular Japanese society in this case is becoming so warped that more and more people are becoming so isolated that they die without anyone really knowing or caring about their deaths.

Living alone may be the lesser of 2 evils if the alternative is to live with some femi-nazi self entitled bitch. Then the question to ask would be why then are there so many femi-nazi self entitled bitches around, which is from what I've read, a big contributory reason to why so many Japanese men are left single and alone?


Interesting.

I've actually heard the exact opposite of Japanese women; that most of them treat their men like kings--or at the very least--much, MUCH better than any western/white woman would ever treat you. Maybe this only applies to foreign guys only?

Although apparently it's not uncommon for them to do a complete 180 and turn into cheating psychos once you actually marry them.


As far as i know they are 2 Japan:The traditional and the modern.

The traditional is what you could consider a patriarchal society where women have the caring attitude devoted to housework and taking care of their men and children.

The modern Japan is going away from that, as Japanese females are now independent,working,having no more need to become a housewife.

Japanese men are becoming more and more feminine(herbivore,crossdressing,female fashion),they have lost of what make Japan a military power and this should have to do with losing WW2.
If someone visited the Japan of the 30's and compared with now,for sure they would be huge differences.

Japan has one of the most huge pornographic industry in the world.
They have all kind of fetishes,men are ready to pay just for taking pictures of some ladies,they are only women wagon in transportation because of groping,a lot of people are virgin after 30.

I was looking at a documentary talking how dolls are gaining popularity and the conceptor acknowledged that many men where sexually frustrated.

Men are different than females and suffer more of this,so the solution was to provide these men with dolls so they could do their stuff without falling apart.

It just tell where they are heading for..they cannot even find a way to stop this male female loneliness epidemic without resorting to strange solution.

Just look wherever you go in SEA how these Japanese guys are overrepresented in any p4p venues.

In BKK they have their own clubs,theirs own massage shops.
They pay silly prices,asking some crazy shit.

The Japan of the past is dying..i just think as the government in Japan try to make people have babies,that their strategy is almost condemned to fail.

Same as if somebody wanted to reverse the feminist process in the US.

Probably the same is occurring in SK right now.

More and more men there are doing exactly what most of us do here,going abroad to find a decent wife or sex,because where they are,women consider themselves to be princess.
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Postby emanuel78 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:22 am

All_That_Is_Man wrote:This news doesn't phase me as I have always been instinctively independent and have never once based my value, my happiness, and my accomplishments in having a girlfriend. "Dying alone"... boo hoo. Cry me a river, ladies. Seriously.

Yep we black men know how to be alone and strong without these black bitches.
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Postby Jester » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:12 am

green1976 wrote:Probably the same is occurring in SK right now.


?SK?
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Postby E_Irizarry » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:59 am

Jester wrote:
green1976 wrote:Probably the same is occurring in SK right now.


?SK?


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Postby green1976 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:26 am

Thanks Ethan for your input.

Yeah i would put off the list places like HK,SK,Japan,Singapour or Taiwan as a seeking female destination.

I just don't want to deal and find something i could find at home.
Why bother to make 10 000 kilometers to interact with the same feminist women we have here.

They have their own style of feminism..surely a mix between western influence and their culture.

In this regard East Asia in general tend to be a lot different than SEA.

They emphasize more in hard working,career orientated path so for a long time i don't think these ladies where quite funny to be with and where closer to be sexually frigid.

As Asia is in a growing economical trend,this direction of "princess women wanabee"is going to expand.

Let's look at what's happening in China right now.
You could see how Shanghai is not the same as another part of the country.
Shanghai chicks and in almost every forum i've read about it,are considered bitchy,demanding,high maintenance.
They just get on the train following what we have in Western countries.

That's not new..each time a country get wealthier and females become more and more cerebral by education,dogma,concept...they become less natural,more competitive and doesn't need any male provider as before.
So the natality goes down.

I reckon that the average feminist activist is openly pursuing the goal to convert every women on this planet to their conception of female male relation.
Mangina follow the road but some are even promoting first this tendency.
A society full of mangina and feminist can be quite good for the ruling elite.

Fortunately they are not reigning all over the world.
Internet can be used at their advantages,as facebook or any dating websites is accelerating the feeling of entitlement of females everywhere.

Now a peasant from Thailand can have many suckers sent her money without even knowing her because they are so desperate to escape their own feminist hellhole, just to find another blood sucker thousands of miles away.

The better way to still feel the non feminist presence is to go there and be there as much as possible.

When a society or a woman as been converted,raised,follow the "i'm better than males and my shit don't stink" mentality..the game is over.

She won't come back as before in my opinion.

So feminist can corrupt all these ladies and you can't undo the process.
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