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Winston, once again, your forum is completely out of control

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Postby Billy » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:52 pm

yeah, and people talk about freedom and socialistic coutries :) the countries it is written about here are not famous for their freedom.

i also don´t know what´s wrong with blue. he writes good raps. which many here never will have the skills to do it.
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Postby ethan_sg » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:28 pm

agreed.

FreeYourMind wrote:I agree completely. And Winston, oh oblivious one, "Blue Murder" is example number one of the trolls who have infested the site of late.
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Postby Blue Murder » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:38 pm

FreeYourMind wrote:I agree completely. And Winston, oh oblivious one, "Blue Murder" is example number one of the trolls who have infested the site of late.

I'd expect that from a mangina.

ethan_sg wrote:Agreed.

That you're a spineless twat? Yeah. I agree with you there.

boycottamericanwomen wrote:Why the f**k ban Blue Murder? How is he a troll? He sounds like a pretty sincere guy.

Thank you, BAM. See, it's idiots like these who make what you and Peter do a fruitless movement. If they can't handle reading the truth on-line from someone they'll never even meet, what makes you think they'll have the balls to stand up to Western society and demand fair treatment? (I'm actually sounding like Peter, LOL.)

You know what? I hope that Peter reads this. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he gave the MBA (and all Western men) the finger, and just focused on hisself. Hell -- he deserves it, and so do you. See, insipid manginas like Lavezzi, FYM and Ethan don't have what it takes to help your effort move forward; they're detrimental to it, in fact.

Each day I continue to read this site's post, I'm more and more convinced that you both should just f**k everyone else, and do you. Real talk.
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Postby ethan_sg » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:08 pm

Hey blue balls,

I know you're a f***ing virgin but you don't need to take it out on all the nice decent non-anglo women out there who've been great girlfriends to people like me and the rest of us who are actually living happier abroad unlike your whining ass.

You can insult american women all you want for all I care but condemning every woman in the world, even the untainted ones as lower beings deserving Afghan-like treatment is really taking it too far. Why don't you take the first step by sending your mum to Afghanistan to be gang-raped?

Yea we're all against feminism but take your militant-women-are-lower-beings extremism back to your cave of angry virgin men because none of us are really interested at all.

Last post I'm reading from you and wasting my time with on your sorry ass.
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Postby Blue Murder » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:01 pm

Hey, V-than.

I know you're a f***ing mangina but you don't need to take it out on the sensible, smart members who continue to post quality stuff on this board. Unlike your whiny, pathetic arse.

I'm done playing with you. I have a life, you don't -- it's that simple.
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Postby davewe » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:43 pm

Winston wrote:
GuitarGuy996 wrote:Winston, I understand that you can't change people, and that everyone is entitled to their opinion; however, this site should have some sort of standard.

All I see now is internal wars betwen many (mostly new) posters. This guys scour the forum 24/7 ready to attack anyone who doesn't agree with them, and rather than ignore them, we are engaging with them. I won't name names because it should be obvious to anyone who visits the forum.

Rather than race/flame wars, attacking female members, and just endless bitching: what about more trip reports and CONSTRUCTIVE conversation. Everyone needs to bitch about their situation from time to time, but these conversations should lead to solutions and conclusions.

From a business standpoint, you'd probably make more money too if site owners saw this as a more legitimate website.

I'm sure there are PLENTY of posters, including myself, here that would be willing to moderate this forum 24/7 (for some sort of compensation obviously). You should look into it if you want your site to grow or have any sort of solid future.

-Guitar Guy


But don't you see, that's subjective. Where do you draw the line? If you eliminate people getting into arguments, then a moderator can ban anyone who argues. It's an excuse to ban anyone you don't like, and such standards can apply to anyone, including yourself. Remember how Repatriate wrongly banned you? That can happen to anyone, unless you draw a clear line.

Anyone can be called a troll, flame baiter, trouble maker, etc.

You need to have specific rules that are objective and not subject to interpretation. Do you understand what I mean?


There must be thousands of forums on the Internet that manage to establish rules. One forum I frequent has a simple rule: attacking the posting is OK, attacking the poster is not OK. Example: "I totally disagree with this statement and consider it rubbish" is ok. "The poster is a faggoty mangina" is not ok. It's simple!

It's not rocket science, Winston. You own the place and can establish any rules you want. But do you want to? Repatriate was correct in his assessment. You don't want to and seem to believe that flame wars are the same as discourse.
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Postby Billy » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:20 pm

Winston man what´s going on here? Am I the only one who thinks Winston is doing a great job. Is it so difficult to ignore posts? Yeah seems like. Ridiculous. Best we should find a feminist women as a mod who works against the hate speeches here.

We are still men. As I said this is no hallo kitty convention. So you want to play girlie then go to MGCOW. There you can find nice fags who will be very nice to you.
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Postby GuitarGuy996 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:33 pm

Davewe, great post and you mimic my sentiments exactly. Billy only proved your point in the very next post. I'm considering starting a new forum that quality posters can migrate to :) I already have some hosting set up so we'll see where it goes from there.
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Postby davewe » Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:51 pm

Billy wrote:Winston man what´s going on here? Am I the only one who thinks Winston is doing a great job. Is it so difficult to ignore posts? Yeah seems like. Ridiculous. Best we should find a feminist women as a mod who works against the hate speeches here.

We are still men. As I said this is no hallo kitty convention. So you want to play girlie then go to MGCOW. There you can find nice fags who will be very nice to you.


Billy - It isn't just an issue of who is or is not offended. I don't think there is anything wrong with being respectful to others but it's not always necessary.

The bigger issue is that it is a time and energy waster. Debating about an issue is great. Posts that simply say "you guys are all manginas" waste my time. It shouldn't be my responsibility to sift through dozens of attack posts to find the few that actual debate the issues. That's why a well modded forum is so fantastic.

BTW, tell us more about those Hello Kitty conventions. I'm sure we'd all be interested to know more about you :D
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Postby Billy » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:07 pm

dav, the problem is that there is only few information here. this is not the strongs of this forum. many specific informations you can also get from other forums.

the strong of this forum is: it is open for newbies. you can ask silly questions without being killed by old members. integration to this forum is easy. for example i would be banned from most forums because i have sometimes strange ideas and bad spelling :)

so in the end different people have different tastes. nothing wrong with that. i would be the first to congratulate you if you can manage to create a better forum. for every successfull forum there a thousands which are not i suppose.

hallo kitty conventions may be full of nice people who are respectful :)
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Postby Renata » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:08 pm

the thing is guys; people who attack others for no reason are just sick, unhappy miserable people & yes it does come out like vomit when they do. Obviously what you have' is what you will give'. I just ignore anyone offending because trolls are real attention whores & feed off of responses, then it spirals out of control that way... if any trolls decide to follow me around, I have no problem with it lol all pets welcomed 8)
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Postby Someone » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:21 pm

GuitarGuy996 wrote:Davewe, great post and you mimic my sentiments exactly. Billy only proved your point in the very next post. I'm considering starting a new forum that quality posters can migrate to :) I already have some hosting set up so we'll see where it goes from there.


I'd be interested in joining when you set it up. Like you said, this used to be a very good forum (one of the very few worth visiting, actually, unlike all the manosphere/"game" bullshit blogs), but it recently got hijacked by crazies.

We have some good posters here, we need to get them together maybe on some kind of new forum.

Btw, I also have problems with the layout of this forum, it's unwieldy an has too many ads and loads slowly. Also, it doesnt play nice with mobile browsing.
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Postby Introvert » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:21 pm

Winston, could you add an ignore feature so that we could "self-moderate" so to speak? That way we could choose which users we don't ever want to read anything from ever again.
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Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:27 pm

Blue Murder wrote:You're both right. Between Peter misreading posts and conducting himself poorly (for a business man I might add), Zboy being a general troll and moronic c**t, AllThatIsMan being a white-washed mangina, IV Money being a whiny child, trolls like Crazy Black Bitch, and Winston being Winston, I don't see this site getting much more development than it already has.

I'm thinking about leaving the site. Especially if my topics continue to be ignored. Nobody wants to talk about shit that could help them, only how much Western women suck.

Blue,
I think that if we get the world passport working an the issue of "work permits" dealt with Winstons site will grow VERY quickly because he will have the ability to sell the services of relocation to his members at a significant discount over other people.

And "conducting himself poorly" is an opinion. You are welcome to it. I have been more effective than pretty much anyone else in Australia or Ireland. And that was a result of how I conducted myself.

How many emails have you got from the private secretary of the leader of your country? I have quite a few from the prime minister and minister for justice in Ireland.

I have the wood on all members of both houses of parliament in both Australia and Ireland.

I got them to commit crimes by provoking them into it...and I will get men to join CAF by provoking and naming and shaming them into it.

As far as MBA goes? Men who want to live in freedom will join and be glad to be a part of it. It is just that very few men wish to live in freedom. They prefer to beg their criminal masters for a few crumbs from the table and act like children.

"Please mr guvment, please do not steal my money, please do not hurt me, please let me go overseas, please let me work overseas"

That is what men are doing. I think it is really pathetic.

I sent a notice to a german judge yesterday telling him I will see to it that he is removed from his career.

I have issued many notices to Angela Merkel, I have issued a notice to the Minister for the Interior asking about the training of the 40,000 federal police under his charge as they seemed to be very ignorant the other day in the courts. I have issued a notice to the president of the group that leads the catholic church as well as the pope who is german to point out that the german guvment seems to be trying to put the guvment above God and ignore Gods Law as described in the bible.

And the funny thing is....all these organisation with endless manpower can not answer my questions...therefore they are in lawful default.

How many "world leaders" have you written to Blue? And how many have actually written back, eh?

When you create the case for removing your entire federal guvment in your own name in full view of the public? Get back to me about "conducting himself poorly".

Most people simply can not believe a man would do as I am doing. I mentioned this to someone I know who works closely with the German police recently and his jaw dropped. I asked him what he was surprised about. He said he was surprised I was still alive. He is fully aware guvments kill people like me.
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Postby Someone » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:59 pm

To be honest, this isn't the place for "macho" men or "game" players or bad boys. If you want that, you can go over to RooshV or Roissy or a million other sites. There's no shortage of these American game and manosphere sites promoting "macho" shit.

No, this place is for people who, like myself, perhaps are slightly introverted, international and well-travelled, and overall nicer and not as macho. I would prefer to keep it that way.
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