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Postby publicduende » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:59 am

Truthville wrote:Wrong publicduende!

In three words: we cannot judge. And we shouldn't.


Are you serious?

How is a person supposed to decide what they believe in if they don't "judge?"

How is a person supposed to decide what is "right" and what is "wrong" if you don't "judge?"

How is a person supposed to feel safe and secure in a society where moral relativism, like the US is becoming, is the norm if you don't "judge?"

So we shouldn't "judge" the murder, the rapist, the adulterer, the child molester, the cheat, the thief, the panderer, the liar, the violent, or the extortionist?

Actions are actions despite "reasons" and "excuses!"

It's all well and good to have sympathy and compassion for people, I know I do, BUT is it wrong for me to "judge" whom gets such things from me?

You seem to have lots of sympathy for women, which is fine, but NONE for men? Why should this Indian man support a child that might not be his? Simply because he is a man? Aren't you being "partial?"

Sometimes the truth of a issue is simple and plain, not convoluted through a "cultural" prism.

You talk about "traditional" societies such as your own used to be in a negative "judging" manner in my eyes.

Isn't that wrong?


I am serious, but you didn't get me. Of course we will judge the criminal, the rapist and child molester as a despicable human being. And so will any judge in a decent society.

I was actually talking about my usual criticism of those who grossly generalise to extreme judgments on a culture that they don't know (or as the OP claim they know but don't know in any depth) and is quite complex and under transformation.

I am not taking sides of Indian men, Indian women or all women here. I'm just saying that Indian men are not disgusting pigs and that the vast majority of them are loving husbands and fathers who respect their wives and work hard to provide for them. Then it's all too obvious that extreme poverty, ignorance and a traditional upbringing will yield men who are abusive, violent and behave like disgusting pigs.

Yet, one could find millions of men exactly like that in every country that has destitute, desperate and poor communities, including the Philippines, Brazil, Romania, the US, almost anywhere.

If you can be bothered to read my posts earlier on this thread you will realise I'm not pro females, or pro India. I'm just against any form of gratuituous generalisation. Otherwise I could "generalise" saying that the OP and many of you are usual American men who do like to travel and explore different cultures, only to view and judge them with your partial eyes of spoiled, arrogant "only superpower left" citizens. Would you like such a statement, or you would feel bad about it?

As for the court ruling above, I thought I already said its concerning that such cases are out and may serve as precedents. Surely it's wrong, in any society, that a man will provide support to a child not his own against his will. But you know, a judge is a human being, he might be a keen liberal who wanted to stir controversy, or perhaps was bribed, or else. It's a nasty case, yet it's not representative of an entire culture, especially one with more than a billion individuals and in deep transformation.
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Postby publicduende » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:20 am

designer wrote:publicduende I was wondering how long it would take for you to jump on this topic with your usual Bullshite. I have to admit you were pretty fast! Hahahaha


If you had bothered reading from the beginning you would have noticed I joined this thread from the beginning, so surely I'm not the one who's jumping in with the grace of an elephant in a crystal shop, making stupid statements. How many Indian families live in your area? And how many bad, evil, abusive Indian men do you know? You've been to India, so you are any wiser? So better spare your histerical laughters and use your energies to post constructively, as you have done in the past.

polya wrote:I totally agree, there is no trusting Indian guys. I don't want to live in India though.


I don't trust Americans. They gave us countless wars and destruction all over the world. They gave us the financial casinos, and a well-oiled mindset driven to profit and material success at the expense of every remaining human value. There's no trusting American guys. I'm generalising, and it's bad enough, but at least I'm doing it based on facts. What do you have to offer as a proof that Indian guys are not trustworthy?
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Postby Truthville » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:44 pm

Alright publicduende!

Thanks for the clarification..........though I believe the tendency to "overgeneralize" is a trait we all share......some more then others I've found.

It's impossible to meet every single person in the world, therefore we tend to "generalize" groups of people, for instance, based on our own experiences. Save time and mental energy. Unfortunately, IF the experiences are "bad", and the bad experiences are numerous, then it's easier to prejudge these groups beforehand. In other words, "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!"

Lazy and unfair?

Perhaps.

BUT life is so short and time too precious to waste trying to, for instance with American Women, find that one "rose" blooming amid the weeds. Better IMHO, to just quit bemoaning the lack of "roses", give up the futile searching and abandon that "garden" to the weeds and pests!

I choose to frequent a better garden where "roses" at least appear to be more plentiful!
"What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: "I am a wretchedly longstanding victim;therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition."

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Postby publicduende » Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:57 am

Truthville wrote:Alright publicduende!

Thanks for the clarification..........though I believe the tendency to "overgeneralize" is a trait we all share......some more then others I've found.

It's impossible to meet every single person in the world, therefore we tend to "generalize" groups of people, for instance, based on our own experiences. Save time and mental energy. Unfortunately, IF the experiences are "bad", and the bad experiences are numerous, then it's easier to prejudge these groups beforehand. In other words, "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!"

Lazy and unfair?

Perhaps.

BUT life is so short and time too precious to waste trying to, for instance with American Women, find that one "rose" blooming amid the weeds. Better IMHO, to just quit bemoaning the lack of "roses", give up the futile searching and abandon that "garden" to the weeds and pests!

I choose to frequent a better garden where "roses" at least appear to be more plentiful!


All you say is perfectly plausible. Generalising is a common trait of the human mind, nothing to object on that. Yet, I have known too many good Indians to subscribe to the idea that all Indians can be qualified as disgusting, violent and abusive. About your perception of US women, granted, many of your had bad experiences with US or Western women and are keen to find solace in cultures farther away from the Western value system. Yet, you may still be disappointed when you travel, say, to Thailand or the Philippines and find that those lovely roses actually have a few thorns you didn't quite imagine existed. As it's understandable, it's precisely the "senior posters" who have lived or still live in those countries, who are the wisest and most realistic, the tune of their replies always veering more towards a catious optimism, than an open generalisation of this of that country as a dating heaven.
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Postby Truthville » Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:12 am

Yet, you may still be disappointed when you travel, say, to Thailand or the Philippines and find that those lovely roses actually have a few thorns you didn't quite imagine existed. As it's understandable, it's precisely the "senior posters" who have lived or still live in those countries, who are the wisest and most realistic, the tune of their replies always veering more towards a catious optimism, than an open generalisation of this of that country as a dating heaven.


I agree BUT...

Nobody can really know what an experience is going to be like, mental projecting notwithstanding, without actually "experiencing" it. Research, blogs, forums and first-hand accounts are useful as a basic primer to get a rough, general idea of what to expect BUT my "experience" won't be exactly like another person's "experience."

I do have a "cautious optimism" about the Philippines BUT that has more to do with the woman I have been talking to for over 6 months, on a daily basis now, then any preconceived notions about her country. Actually, I am tending to be a perhaps a little more cautious than most because this will be my first international trip.

What you have to understand publicduende is that what I am looking for I can't find here. Yes, I mean CAN'T! For various reasons I won't disclose, I just don't "jibe" with my countrywomen. Have I had some less than terrible experiences, yes, BUT IMHO that isn't good enough for me. Not good enough to change my life and not good enough to risk my future.

I don't HATE American/Western woman as some do here BUT I honestly don't like most of them as people. I honestly don't like most American men as people also. It's a sad thing to dislike your own "people."

I am hopefully going to see this women in OCT, hopefully for a month, AND we will see IF we can make it work. I have a good feeling about her and US, and THAT is worth taking a risk IMHO!

IF it doesn't work out? Well then at least I had the experience, right?

BTW, before HER my plan was to go to Europe for at least a month. My first destination? Italy! Rome in particular. I'm kind of a novice Ancient Roman History buff. I STILL will be doing this in the future. Perhaps OUR honeymoon?


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"What we are seeing in this headless misandry is a grand display of the Tyranny of the Underdog: "I am a wretchedly longstanding victim;therefore I own no burden of adult accountability, nor need to honor any restraint against my words and actions. In fact, all efforts to restrain me are only further proof of my oppressed condition."

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Postby publicduende » Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:11 pm

Truthville wrote:
Yet, you may still be disappointed when you travel, say, to Thailand or the Philippines and find that those lovely roses actually have a few thorns you didn't quite imagine existed. As it's understandable, it's precisely the "senior posters" who have lived or still live in those countries, who are the wisest and most realistic, the tune of their replies always veering more towards a catious optimism, than an open generalisation of this of that country as a dating heaven.


I agree BUT...

Nobody can really know what an experience is going to be like, mental projecting notwithstanding, without actually "experiencing" it. Research, blogs, forums and first-hand accounts are useful as a basic primer to get a rough, general idea of what to expect BUT my "experience" won't be exactly like another person's "experience."

I do have a "cautious optimism" about the Philippines BUT that has more to do with the woman I have been talking to for over 6 months, on a daily basis now, then any preconceived notions about her country. Actually, I am tending to be a perhaps a little more cautious than most because this will be my first international trip.

What you have to understand publicduende is that what I am looking for I can't find here. Yes, I mean CAN'T! For various reasons I won't disclose, I just don't "jibe" with my countrywomen. Have I had some less than terrible experiences, yes, BUT IMHO that isn't good enough for me. Not good enough to change my life and not good enough to risk my future.

I don't HATE American/Western woman as some do here BUT I honestly don't like most of them as people. I honestly don't like most American men as people also. It's a sad thing to dislike your own "people."

I am hopefully going to see this women in OCT, hopefully for a month, AND we will see IF we can make it work. I have a good feeling about her and US, and THAT is worth taking a risk IMHO!

IF it doesn't work out? Well then at least I had the experience, right?

BTW, before HER my plan was to go to Europe for at least a month. My first destination? Italy! Rome in particular. I'm kind of a novice Ancient Roman History buff. I STILL will be doing this in the future. Perhaps OUR honeymoon?


:lol:


Well I take from your reply that you already have a "SHE" waiting for you in the Philippines. Good luck with your upcoming trip then! And yes, you could always fix a honeymoon in Rome, not forgetting to throw in a couple of days in Venice. That city really is something quite unique.
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Postby Indianhater49 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:28 pm

Indians and Pakistanis always ask if they can marry me or just rape me. They cannot be trusted or believed. They think they are funny but their sense of humor is sick. They only want American women for sex. Do you know one Indian took an American girl all the way to Mumbai, India and then paid his friend 20 thousand dollars to kill her and he also took out million dollar life insurance policy for her death (which he never received) the girl's mothr sued him and won 4 million dollars from the Indian. You can see the results at www.Leona swiderski.com
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Postby AmericanEvil » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:13 pm

Indian men are the most low class, disgusting pieces of trash on this planet.

I pray to GOD that Pakistan blows India to hell with their nukes!
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Postby Winston » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:37 am

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Postby OutWest » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:56 am

Winston wrote:This thread is very mean spirited and does no good. Should I remove it? Do you guys prefer to allow threads like this to stay up?


better keep all such threads...mental illness researchers need the material...
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Postby AmericanEvil » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:32 am

Winston wrote:This thread is very mean spirited and does no good. Should I remove it? Do you guys prefer to allow threads like this to stay up?


Indian MEN are disgusting pigs, cheaters, low class animals who should all be exterminated.

So is the white race. Exterminate both races and world peace is attained.
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Postby Boner_Jones » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:13 am

So many Indian guys I know are civilized and really really smart... like genius. They aren't lazy... or stupid.

But then i read... in India the men are disgusting pigs... why so different? WTF?

And I read that india never had a dictatorship.. its a democracy.. WTF? How do you run a shithole country with a billion poor people without a dictatorship?
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Postby AmericanEvil » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:04 pm

Boner_Jones wrote:So many Indian guys I know are civilized and really really smart... like genius. They aren't lazy... or stupid.

But then i read... in India the men are disgusting pigs... why so different? WTF?

And I read that india never had a dictatorship.. its a democracy.. WTF? How do you run a shithole country with a billion poor people without a dictatorship?


This is the reason. The indian men you see in the West are the 1 percent of intelligent indians. The other 99 percent are the ones living in India, and are too stupid and low class to ever leave India.

Democracy? No, the politicians in India are OPENLY criminals. They are OPENLY stealing trillions of dollars and putting it into Swiss bank accounts. EVERYONE knows this. And yet no one does anything to stop it, other than protest. And the govt could care less about oyur stupid protests. They are going to exterminate all the useless eaters soon, which is 90 percent of the human population.

I HOPE TO GOD that they succeed in killing off 90 percent of the human race. Because 90 percent ARE useless eaters, and are dumb, stupid animals who don't deserve to exist.

The Illuminati is CORRECT in wanting to kill off 90 percent of the human race.

Heil Lucifer, the LIGHT BRINGER!
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Postby Winston » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:52 am

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