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Re: No Marriage dot com (pre-2009)

Postby djfourmoney » Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:21 am

All_That_Is_Man wrote:
eurobrat wrote:ATIM,

I kind of agree when you get older you kind of want a partner. Tons of benefits if it works out, dual income, sex more often, no more dating and dating games, children to look after you when you get older.

I have a Grandmother dying of brain cancer and with amnesia right now. She had 5 kids and 14 grandchildren including me. She has been well taken care of since she was diagnosed.


I agree with wanting a partner when you get older. I don't agree with your list of benefits, however. For instance, even if it "works out", marriage generally ends sex altogether, and a wife and kids generally demand all of the husband's earnings (whether for needs or for wants). That's good that your grandmother is very well taken care of, however in a lot of cases the children/grandchildren will stiff an aging parent for their money (e.g. laundering their will, coercing them to sign over retirement wages, putting them in a cheap nursing home, etc.).

I'm just glad that dj is at least considering a foreign woman (unlike my brother who is engaged to an American black female nearly 10 years older than him, who he met at the club! :?) Marrying a foreign woman is the smartest choice for the man, even though marriage of any sort is altogether a no-win complex for males.


Are your parents divorced?

A no-win? As I said, I don't have anything to take from. A woman would have to accept me for what I am and what I have now, today. Not potentially, that might not change.

This is why you listen to what women say very carefully and you also watch what they do WAY before you seal any deal. Are people on their best behavior at all times? Sure, I am who I am, best behavior never enters my mind. I will cut you off if I think what I have to say is more important, some especially that Polish chick didn't like that at all. While most women don't seem to care as I am usually much more informed about various subjects than they are.

So I am what I am and that's all that I am - Popeye

You only get married in the right circumstances and I create those circumstances.

There is no at least or less than evil proposition in my book. You can still find reasonable women inside America (shock, horror) but at my age, I have no longer to time to dig through all the trash to find diamond in the rough. Much easier in a market where your desired without the social forces to conform as they are in the United States.
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Postby Maker55 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:34 pm

eurobrat wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:
eurobrat wrote:Just don't choose the wrong one. Most of you guys won't believe me but in honesty the best women for marriage are the religious ones Catholics and Christians where divorce is not an option.


So what your saying, is let me get this straight...

The only way to keep a woman from flying the nest is to clip her wings? Not so much barefoot, but church bound, every Sunday, even teaching Sunday School, church charities, etc.

What a bunch of ridiculous nonsense!

You got the first part right - Don't choose the wrong one and that's all you can really do.


I'm just saying it has a higher success rate. Look at the divorce rate in Italy 12%, not a coincidence.

I'm just saying pick a good girl, I laugh at American guys who marry the slutty 23 year old who's an 8 or 9 and get their heart ripped out.


The 1950s are over man.

Regardless of whether a man marries a 5 or an 8, a slutty or a non-slutty woman. It still doesn't change the fact that at leat 50 percent of all marriages end in divorce in America.

Very good statistic concerning Italy but that still doesn't count the number of miserable couples who haven't gotten a divorce.
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Postby Maker55 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:38 pm

eurobrat wrote:ATIM,

I kind of agree when you get older you kind of want a partner. Tons of benefits if it works out, dual income, sex more often, no more dating and dating games, children to look after you when you get older.

I have a Grandmother dying of brain cancer and with amnesia right now. She had 5 kids and 14 grandchildren including me. She has been well taken care of since she was diagnosed.


Your grandmother is an isolated case.

Just because you get married, there's not guarantee that you will always be with that person.

You can have many children without ever being married.

As far as a dual income, that income is going to decrease due to your wife wanting to spend a lot of it.

Plus, a man's money is never safe in a marriage or during a divorce.
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Re: No Marriage dot com (pre-2009)

Postby Maker55 » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:42 pm

djfourmoney wrote:
All_That_Is_Man wrote:
eurobrat wrote:ATIM,

I kind of agree when you get older you kind of want a partner. Tons of benefits if it works out, dual income, sex more often, no more dating and dating games, children to look after you when you get older.

I have a Grandmother dying of brain cancer and with amnesia right now. She had 5 kids and 14 grandchildren including me. She has been well taken care of since she was diagnosed.


I agree with wanting a partner when you get older. I don't agree with your list of benefits, however. For instance, even if it "works out", marriage generally ends sex altogether, and a wife and kids generally demand all of the husband's earnings (whether for needs or for wants). That's good that your grandmother is very well taken care of, however in a lot of cases the children/grandchildren will stiff an aging parent for their money (e.g. laundering their will, coercing them to sign over retirement wages, putting them in a cheap nursing home, etc.).

I'm just glad that dj is at least considering a foreign woman (unlike my brother who is engaged to an American black female nearly 10 years older than him, who he met at the club! :?) Marrying a foreign woman is the smartest choice for the man, even though marriage of any sort is altogether a no-win complex for males.


Are your parents divorced?

A no-win? As I said, I don't have anything to take from. A woman would have to accept me for what I am and what I have now, today. Not potentially, that might not change.

This is why you listen to what women say very carefully and you also watch what they do WAY before you seal any deal. Are people on their best behavior at all times? Sure, I am who I am, best behavior never enters my mind. I will cut you off if I think what I have to say is more important, some especially that Polish chick didn't like that at all. While most women don't seem to care as I am usually much more informed about various subjects than they are.

So I am what I am and that's all that I am - Popeye

You only get married in the right circumstances and I create those circumstances.

There is no at least or less than evil proposition in my book. You can still find reasonable women inside America (shock, horror) but at my age, I have no longer to time to dig through all the trash to find diamond in the rough. Much easier in a market where your desired without the social forces to conform as they are in the United States.



You accuse us of trying to suggest prostitutes and I have never offered that as an alternative to your situation.

Let us know on your blog how your marriage is doing after 12 YEARS.

If she's still giving regular sex with NO nagging or drama, then your marriage is a success.
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Re: No Marriage dot com (pre-2009)

Postby djfourmoney » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:49 pm

Maker55 wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:
All_That_Is_Man wrote:
eurobrat wrote:ATIM,

I kind of agree when you get older you kind of want a partner. Tons of benefits if it works out, dual income, sex more often, no more dating and dating games, children to look after you when you get older.

I have a Grandmother dying of brain cancer and with amnesia right now. She had 5 kids and 14 grandchildren including me. She has been well taken care of since she was diagnosed.


I agree with wanting a partner when you get older. I don't agree with your list of benefits, however. For instance, even if it "works out", marriage generally ends sex altogether, and a wife and kids generally demand all of the husband's earnings (whether for needs or for wants). That's good that your grandmother is very well taken care of, however in a lot of cases the children/grandchildren will stiff an aging parent for their money (e.g. laundering their will, coercing them to sign over retirement wages, putting them in a cheap nursing home, etc.).

I'm just glad that dj is at least considering a foreign woman (unlike my brother who is engaged to an American black female nearly 10 years older than him, who he met at the club! :?) Marrying a foreign woman is the smartest choice for the man, even though marriage of any sort is altogether a no-win complex for males.


Are your parents divorced?

A no-win? As I said, I don't have anything to take from. A woman would have to accept me for what I am and what I have now, today. Not potentially, that might not change.

This is why you listen to what women say very carefully and you also watch what they do WAY before you seal any deal. Are people on their best behavior at all times? Sure, I am who I am, best behavior never enters my mind. I will cut you off if I think what I have to say is more important, some especially that Polish chick didn't like that at all. While most women don't seem to care as I am usually much more informed about various subjects than they are.

So I am what I am and that's all that I am - Popeye

You only get married in the right circumstances and I create those circumstances.

There is no at least or less than evil proposition in my book. You can still find reasonable women inside America (shock, horror) but at my age, I have no longer to time to dig through all the trash to find diamond in the rough. Much easier in a market where your desired without the social forces to conform as they are in the United States.



You accuse us of trying to suggest prostitutes and I have never offered that as an alternative to your situation.

Let us know on your blog how your marriage is doing after 12 YEARS.

If she's still giving regular sex with NO nagging or drama, then your marriage is a success.


Sure my email addresses haven't changed since the 90's so that is easy. Nothing wrong with a healthy dose of pessimism. I am not accusing you or anybody I am just saying, there aren't many options left for regular sex/companionship beyond that. Not sure what you would suggest, love dolls aren't mature yet, Transexuals can't have kids, adoption is out of the question and the rest I can handle without any suggestions from the peanut gallery.

All I know is the majority of women in Europe that want to hook up with men of color want have them put a ring on it. American men never in position of being the talk of the town, don't want to get tied down. So that leaves an enormous opening for me as I want, what they want - LTR

Having children needs a security and stable environment. Marriage offers that security for both sides. This is not a war like some of you want to make it out. Have warfare with extreme feminist if you must, but the majority of women especially outside of Anglo culture where White men have lost control of their women and Black women have become obstinate. When I believe Latinas are not deeply interested in Black Men and I have no desire to hook up with Asian women unless she's just smoking (which hardly happens, they chase White men) that doesn't leave me with many options which is why I don't understand your bitchin and moaning.

I don't have SEA Fantasies that middle aged White men tend to have. Eastern European women are a possibility but cost is a realistic issue.

When I say you have no plans/suggestion, you don't. Still haven't seen one. This is why I can largely disregard what you say as fear mongering.
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Re: No Marriage dot com (pre-2009)

Postby eurobrat » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:51 pm

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Re: No Marriage dot com (pre-2009)

Postby All_That_Is_Man » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:14 am

djfourmoney wrote:Are your parents divorced?


No they are not. But you're trying to compare marriage in 1981 to marriage today?? Or to "the next two year" for that matter?? I feel that I don't need to explain that my parents are also from a much earlier era, when divorce was still taboo. Don't think just because an aging couple of 1950s babies are still married today, that the marriage dynamic of TODAY is conditioned in men's favor. Now you've just run out of reasons to jump into marriage.

djfourmoney wrote:A no-win? As I said, I don't have anything to take from. A woman would have to accept me for what I am and what I have now, today. Not potentially, that might not change.

This is why you listen to what women say very carefully and you also watch what they do WAY before you seal any deal. Are people on their best behavior at all times? Sure, I am who I am, best behavior never enters my mind. I will cut you off if I think what I have to say is more important, some especially that Polish chick didn't like that at all. While most women don't seem to care as I am usually much more informed about various subjects than they are.

So I am what I am and that's all that I am - Popeye

You only get married in the right circumstances and I create those circumstances.

There is no at least or less than evil proposition in my book. You can still find reasonable women inside America (shock, horror) but at my age, I have no longer to time to dig through all the trash to find diamond in the rough. Much easier in a market where your desired without the social forces to conform as they are in the United States.


Again, I'm just glad that you are seeking a foreign woman. I wouldn't wish a misandric Americunt on my worst enemy, even with a gun to my head.
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Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:21 am

eurobrat wrote:Just don't choose the wrong one. Most of you guys won't believe me but in honesty the best women for marriage are the religious ones Catholics and Christians where divorce is not an option.


You have said some pretty dumb things but this takes the cake. My wife was a "christian" woman when I married her...she made MUCH of her religion. She renounced it soon after our second child was born saying "I do not need a bunch of stupid christians to tell me how to live"

In divorce the christian women were the WORST offenders at hating on me a CHRISTIAN MAN at the time.

Christian women are the biggest liars and hypocrites of ALL western women because they are REBELLING AGAINST THEIR GOD to abuse men.

I dropped my christian religion in part because I did not want to be associated with christians who are such liars and hypocrites.

I have even issued a lawful notice to the pope and the head of the german church on the issue of their hypocrisy in not extending the protection of the church and catholic religion to men of divorce.

Of course...no answer....it is not like the pope is about to point out the truth any time soon.

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Re: No Marriage dot com (pre-2009)

Postby djfourmoney » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:26 am

All_That_Is_Man wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:Are your parents divorced?


No they are not. But you're trying to compare marriage in 1981 to marriage today?? Or to "the next two year" for that matter?? I feel that I don't need to explain that my parents are also from a much earlier era, when divorce was still taboo. Don't think just because an aging couple of 1950s babies are still married today, that the marriage dynamic of TODAY is conditioned in men's favor. Now you've just run out of reasons to jump into marriage.

djfourmoney wrote:A no-win? As I said, I don't have anything to take from. A woman would have to accept me for what I am and what I have now, today. Not potentially, that might not change.

This is why you listen to what women say very carefully and you also watch what they do WAY before you seal any deal. Are people on their best behavior at all times? Sure, I am who I am, best behavior never enters my mind. I will cut you off if I think what I have to say is more important, some especially that Polish chick didn't like that at all. While most women don't seem to care as I am usually much more informed about various subjects than they are.

So I am what I am and that's all that I am - Popeye

You only get married in the right circumstances and I create those circumstances.

There is no at least or less than evil proposition in my book. You can still find reasonable women inside America (shock, horror) but at my age, I have no longer to time to dig through all the trash to find diamond in the rough. Much easier in a market where your desired without the social forces to conform as they are in the United States.


Again, I'm just glad that you are seeking a foreign woman. I wouldn't wish a misandric Americunt on my worst enemy, even with a gun to my head.


I just asked because children of divorce tend to have a dim view of marriage. I am a child of divorce and I don't view marriage as a bad thing. Its a bad thing if you f**k up and marry the wrong woman. You better do damage control and drop that bitch before she pops out a kid or two.

Look I got this shit under control and don't put your false concern on me, because the reality is you don't give two f***s about me or what I do. You just wanna be able to say "I told you so" to win some corn-ball internet argument.

Have a nice day.
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Re: No Marriage dot com (pre-2009)

Postby All_That_Is_Man » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:22 pm

djfourmoney wrote:
All_That_Is_Man wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:Are your parents divorced?


No they are not. But you're trying to compare marriage in 1981 to marriage today?? Or to "the next two year" for that matter?? I feel that I don't need to explain that my parents are also from a much earlier era, when divorce was still taboo. Don't think just because an aging couple of 1950s babies are still married today, that the marriage dynamic of TODAY is conditioned in men's favor. Now you've just run out of reasons to jump into marriage.

djfourmoney wrote:A no-win? As I said, I don't have anything to take from. A woman would have to accept me for what I am and what I have now, today. Not potentially, that might not change.

This is why you listen to what women say very carefully and you also watch what they do WAY before you seal any deal. Are people on their best behavior at all times? Sure, I am who I am, best behavior never enters my mind. I will cut you off if I think what I have to say is more important, some especially that Polish chick didn't like that at all. While most women don't seem to care as I am usually much more informed about various subjects than they are.

So I am what I am and that's all that I am - Popeye

You only get married in the right circumstances and I create those circumstances.

There is no at least or less than evil proposition in my book. You can still find reasonable women inside America (shock, horror) but at my age, I have no longer to time to dig through all the trash to find diamond in the rough. Much easier in a market where your desired without the social forces to conform as they are in the United States.


Again, I'm just glad that you are seeking a foreign woman. I wouldn't wish a misandric Americunt on my worst enemy, even with a gun to my head.


I just asked because children of divorce tend to have a dim view of marriage. I am a child of divorce and I don't view marriage as a bad thing. Its a bad thing if you f**k up and marry the wrong woman. You better do damage control and drop that bitch before she pops out a kid or two.

Look I got this shit under control and don't put your false concern on me, because the reality is you don't give two f***s about me or what I do. You just wanna be able to say "I told you so" to win some corn-ball internet argument.

Have a nice day.


Correction: The woman and the misandric system have "this shit" under control. You'll be in charge of nothing.
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Postby aozora13 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:54 pm

I believe possibly if he is able to stay in the woman's country that he will have better control than if he was in the US.
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Postby polya » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:25 pm

Just go and try to find a wife yourself! Even a long holiday would give you some of the answers you need. It's too late to go when you're retired, so go now! Staying in your country will only result in thesame life you have had, so try something new.
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Postby aozora13 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:42 pm

I believe that DJ wants to have children. I believe he can if he is determined in being clear that he wants a long-term relationship with the women and possibly stay in the US or staying in her country. It is possible but he is trying to do it in a year. Hopefully he can do it when he is more financially stable. However, anyone with ambition such as him can do anything.
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Postby eurobrat » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:01 pm

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Postby djfourmoney » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:33 pm

eurobrat wrote:He better hurry up, the clock is ticking guys do go impotent.


LOL, this is sort of true. I'm in great shape, don't smoke, don't drink, I got my ex-pregnant about a decade ago, I don't think much has changed since then.

This is why its important to hook up with younger women, not older women as some men seem to want. You'll take higher risk with mid 30's women that have never had children.

Prime age for a woman is 16-32. After that, its falls like a rock because women are born with a set amount of eggs. As she gets older the quality of the eggs go down. Now what happens in US media is feminist deflect this by saying a man's sperm degrades over time. Sure it does, but not at the rapid rate of decline that happens to women after a certain age. Does this mean women over 40 can't have healthy children? Sure they can but for me its very risky. Its not like most women make it a regular habit to visit the gynecologist especially if they aren't on the pill (or something is wrong)...

In fact I think women avoid the doctor as to not be devastated by any negative news. All sorts of things can happen, size queens often times don't know that their reproductive organs have been damaged from hard sex.

That said, just about 95% of women on the planet can have healthy babies as long as they get prenatal care.

Not that much of a concern...

About time tables -

Why not just a year? Does it have to be longer? Will you know much more about this person after six months or a year??? I've said before that people often times look for problems in a relationship when there isn't one. When its "Too Good To Be True" in relationships it almost never that good, but people shocked some don't have the same dysfunctional relationships they do, want to sabotage your relationship. Remember, misery loves company...

With my original post, dude talked to this girl online for a year before seeing her. They flew back and forth two or three times before finally he went to live with her in Germany. By my calculations, this venture started in 2007 and as of 2012, he has a child but hasn't married her yet. Not sure what the delay is, but that's five years!!!

I will add another post I think some time this week about air fares and how to be a Travel Ninja as some call it. Best pricing I have found is $650RT for travel after Jan 1st 2013 to Spain from LAX. A few days in Spain before making my way to my final destination might prove fun. Buses are cheap and of course there is the train and low cost airlines.

There are several reasons for setting a year time table and I'll explore them further on the blog, but basically, its money related. I want to go boom, boom, boom; done.

So that would mean -

(a) Find a woman

Not as difficult as it sounds and not as complicated as it sound either. As I've said several times minimize your faults while retaining who you are every day. Also be honest about your fault, you'll find many women (and other people) will accept you for who you are if your just honest.

(b) Figure out where we're going to live

This helps to diffuse the importance of money as well without saying so. The way I see it, if I can afford to visit her, have my own place (more on that later) and still take her places, ummm that really sends the message that I am not looking to be a dependent.

(c) After a and b are solved, make it all legal and binding.

This is for security for both parties. Verbal commitments can be easily broken which is puzzling why so many people are against marriage around here. Your word is your bond doesn't apply in today's world very much. As I said most women will accept a surprising amount of bullshit before making an effort to leave.

This is a big step and shouldn't be taken lightly. I'd be wary of any woman that's never been married and can't keep a man around is hot to trot to the alter...

Shouldn't take more than a year and frankly I am NOT going to keep flying back and forth to Europe... Not that I don't like traveling but that's not traveling. 90 days in Europe should be plenty of time to lock down a nice girl. I plan to be in Europe 90 days, that's plenty of time for a woman to figure out if she should commit to you.

I may stay longer we shall see.
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