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Postby Maverick » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:00 am

SilverEnergy wrote:It's a fact that if you want to date American women with no problem, you have to have a certain income and there's no way around that.

If you're not building your wealth to the satisfaction of American women, you can pretty much forget it.

Your only option will be to go overseas because American women make the most money of any women in the world and are looking for men with a comparable or higher income.

It's just the way it works.


Nah man. It's all about social circle and who you know. That's the crux of many of the successful PUAs that I've known in real life (the ones that ACTUALLY do well....they do exist). Their MO is to build social circles constantly. So I guess you would call this status. That's what mostly matters when meeting girls in real life in the US (though, I'd suspect that this is important elsewhere too).

When meeting girls online in the US, looks are really all that matters.

Unless you're REALLY rich, it won't help you. And if you are that rich, then they'll just use you for your money.
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Postby Banano » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:37 am

SilverEnergy wrote:It's a fact that if you want to date American women with no problem, you have to have a certain income and there's no way around that.

If you're not building your wealth to the satisfaction of American women, you can pretty much forget it.

Your only option will be to go overseas because American women make the most money of any women in the world and are looking for men with a comparable or higher income.

It's just the way it works.



Money doesn't guarantee you easy dates, as you said AW make most money in the world so they don't need man for survival

Do you think all women or most women get f***ed by guys with money?
All guys i know who do well with women don't have money, they have blue color jobs or some crappy office job but these fellas are not fat, bald, short, old, they have good skin, symmetrical sculpted face or not round chubby ones and average social skills.

Now when I look at men who are challanged by dating scene its usually guys who are either too short, bald, fat, crappy skin, chubby face, its not their social skills. If it was money that gets you laid we could easily fake it by acting rich, since most modern women have sex within first 2-3 dates it wouldn't be hard to pull off; beauty of living in western countries is that average guy can appear rich thanks to easy credit.

Buy BMW and fancy designer clothes, shoes, rent apartment in fancy area or you can lie about it, tell her you family owns big business or factory in Asia, wear some fake gold chains, fake rolex etc and hit the night sports, malls,... do it for 6 months and see for yourself....now that SHOULD get you lot of ass, right? but I don't think it will


If you are good looking handsome guy(by womens standards, not by your parents standards or yours) then most likely you wont have any problems with getting laid. Such a guy will be getting positive responses everywhere they go, street, clubs, dating sites and it will result in confidence boost.
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Postby SilverEnergy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:45 am

Defensive responses.

Take all of the millionaires and billionaires in the world, I bet you they get way more women than most guys.

Women in America require higher incomes than in other parts of the world.

I repeat, if you CANNOT provide America women with a certain standard of living, you can FORGET about it.

A rich man who isn't able to pull women in America, something is WRONG.

It could be lack of height, lack of attractiveness, social awkardness ect.

Why do you think that in asia and latin america, the women don't require you to be as wealthy?
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Postby SilverEnergy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:47 am

Let's take this as an example.

EVERY SINGLE black man who is a millionaire in America can get ANY race of woman he wants.

Why do you think that is?

While some blue collar guys can and do get women, MANY DO NOT.

Most of the men who leave America to greener pastures are NOT among the riches men in the world.
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Postby SilverEnergy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:51 am

Being good looking in America won't guarantee you anything.

It only guarantees you that you MIGHT get slightly more women than a less attractive guy.

Status/money trumps good looks in America.

You see a number of unattractive men with pretty women in America.

Why?

He can offer her a certain standard of living through his big paycheck.
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Postby SilverEnergy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:02 am

Do you listen to Tom Leykis?

If you don't, I recommend you to.

Tom Leykis knows the kind of guys that attract American women: Bad boys and guys with deep pockets.

And both of these types of guys trumps good looking guys.

Good looks on a guy is just icing on the cake if he is a bad boy or has money.

It is what it is.

There are exceptions.

Connections CAN get you women but which guys in America has the most social connections???

Bad boys and rich guys.

If you don't fit the requirements of American women, you have to go overseas, if the culture of individualistic money making isn't for you.

What I preach is for men to make their money in America and then go overseas.
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Postby SilverEnergy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:17 am

Nothing's guaranteed but the 10 percent of the men that the women go far have: bad boy qualities, money or both.

If things are not working out for you in America, there's only 2 things you can do: Find a way to get some money and move overseas.
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Postby Maverick » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:26 am

SilverEnergy wrote:Defensive responses.


My response isn't defensive. It's what I've seen after dating a significant amount of women in the US and living in different parts of the country.

I agree with you that making as much money as possible is a good idea, but it appears that we have different reasons for this mentality.

Take all of the millionaires and billionaires in the world, I bet you they get way more women than most guys.


I agree with you. But I believe that these women go with these guys for the wrong reasons (financial reasons).

Women in America require higher incomes than in other parts of the world.


Again, I disagree. I know more women that date lower than themselves than higher.

I repeat, if you CANNOT provide America women with a certain standard of living, you can FORGET about it.


Women are capable of providing their own standard of living. In my observations, they generally go with the guys that turn them on the most. Again, not ALL women, but many.

A rich man who isn't able to pull women in America, something is WRONG.


Not arguing with you there.

It could be lack of height, lack of attractiveness, social awkardness ect.


I'm short and i was pulling women when I was dirt poor. I still pull women making above average (though not extremely so) money.

Why do you think that in asia and latin America, the women don't require you to be as wealthy?


I can't comment on this since I've never lived there. I will let you know my answer to this in a few years. :lol:
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Postby Maverick » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:31 am

SilverEnergy wrote:Being good looking in America won't guarantee you anything.

It only guarantees you that you MIGHT get slightly more women than a less attractive guy.


I said when online dating, looks are by far the most important thing. I stand by that.

I did not say all dating in general.

Status/money trumps good looks in America.


I agree that STATUS trumps looks by far (I said this). Money usually leads to a higher status. So money in and of itself is not all that important. It's what one does with the money (ie: how many fancy cars he has and how many celebrities he knows, etc).

You can see this on a smaller scale in bars and clubs. The guys with the VIP tables are not usually the guy that pulls the girls home. It's usually the friendly guy that knows the owner, bartender, and bouncers.

You see a number of unattractive men with pretty women in America.

Why?

He can offer her a certain standard of living through his big paycheck.


Maybe. But these girls are gold diggers. I don't think the vast majority of girls are like this.

I do know tons of girls that have turned down the rich guys for the bad boy drug dealers (ie: the guys that make them wet).
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Postby Banano » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:49 am

How many millionaires are there in US? 1-2% of population max?

Do you think girls 17-25( prime age) are chasing these millionaires?

9/10 average income men VS 2/10 rich guy....which one will be more successful with picking up girls and having FREE sex
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Postby djfourmoney » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:42 am

It seems many are discounting social skills. When you have no money you are suppose to make that up with social skills.

Again this is why White men in the middle of the country hated disco. Not because the music sucked, but what it represented. It came along at the height of the sexual revolution, drug culture, porn and homosexuality.

So women started looking for men who were well groomed and that could dance. This was never required by the previous generation, despite movies showing you professional dancers acting like real G.I's in an USO setting.

It was at this time that interracial dating especially between White Women and Black Men started to increase as for the first time they were both in the same social setting without the hostility of bigoted White Men.

These are the reasons why White men, many of the fathers of members of this forum were hostile to disco music and the changing landscape of social interaction.

Outwest highlighted perfectly that being cordial and a gentlemen will get you very far with most women and especially far with cultured women from Europe and more traditionally minded women from Eastern Europe, Latin America and South East Asia/Asia. This will also get you far with educated women in Anglo culture.

The problem is (and Silver is right), many Western men correctly feel that if they don't earn enough to afford a nice apartment, nice foreign car, clothes that signal "style" and maybe a so-called metro-sexual skill which would be cooking.

What worked for your father in the 50's, 60's and in rural areas in the 70's doesn't work anymore.

That's why I say you've been priced out of the dating market in the America if you work slightly above min wage, live with a parent or other family member, share an apartment with another male, etc. These are all signals to women that you are not measuring up to the min expected of you by society at-large.

For men in this position, you're only choice is to go elsewhere for your wife hunt. For socially awkward men, they need to go elsewhere as well.
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Postby tre » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:23 am

I will say this because I've seen it MANY times:

If you are an OLD Millionaire, you will have a REALLY tough time finding a woman that will stay with you and be faithful to you in the USA. She may be in a relationship with you, tolerate you, etc, but she WILL be having fun on the side with guys she is attracted to. I saw this MANY times in Las Vegas. Millionaires are a dime a dozen. Without status and looks, you are dead in the water when it comes to women in the USA. I knew an older millionaire that committed suicide due to how badly women kept using/abusing him. He had everything he could want, but he couldn't get a faithful, attractive woman to save his life. If you are a millionaire WITH looks AND status...then you are gold. At that point, your $$ will definitely give you an edge over everyone else.

Guys like Trump are Billionaires with status. They get hot women that stay with them. However, I seriously doubt that even those women stay with them for any other reason than for their $$. If they could get away with it, they'd definitely seek the attention of someone they are attracted to...
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Postby Banano » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:26 am

djfourmoney wrote:It seems many are discounting social skills. When you have no money you are suppose to make that up with social skills.

Again this is why White men in the middle of the country hated disco. Not because the music sucked, but what it represented. It came along at the height of the sexual revolution, drug culture, p**n and homosexuality.

So women started looking for men who were well groomed and that could dance. This was never required by the previous generation, despite movies showing you professional dancers acting like real G.I's in an USO setting.

It was at this time that interracial dating especially between White Women and Black Men started to increase as for the first time they were both in the same social setting without the hostility of bigoted White Men.

These are the reasons why White men, many of the fathers of members of this forum were hostile to disco music and the changing landscape of social interaction.

Outwest highlighted perfectly that being cordial and a gentlemen will get you very far with most women and especially far with cultured women from Europe and more traditionally minded women from Eastern Europe, Latin America and South East Asia/Asia. This will also get you far with educated women in Anglo culture.

The problem is (and Silver is right), many Western men correctly feel that if they don't earn enough to afford a nice apartment, nice foreign car, clothes that signal "style" and maybe a so-called metro-sexual skill which would be cooking.

What worked for your father in the 50's, 60's and in rural areas in the 70's doesn't work anymore.

That's why I say you've been priced out of the dating market in the America if you work slightly above min wage, live with a parent or other family member, share an apartment with another male, etc. These are all signals to women that you are not measuring up to the min expected of you by society at-large.

For men in this position, you're only choice is to go elsewhere for your wife hunt. For socially awkward men, they need to go elsewhere as well.



Very well said now explain that to my dad, he believes if you are decent guy who works, pay bills, don't gamble or do drugs and alcohol that women will come to you
Maybe that was minimum requirement back in 70s
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Postby theprimebait » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:37 pm

SilverEnergy wrote:Being good looking in America won't guarantee you anything.

It only guarantees you that you MIGHT get slightly more women than a less attractive guy.

Status/money trumps good looks in America.

You see a number of unattractive men with pretty women in America.

Why?

He can offer her a certain standard of living through his big paycheck.


Rich and high status f**k the 8-9s.Djs,Rappers,Celebrities have 8s and 9s on the reg offering ONS.

the top women only do ONS with high status men.and usually only LTRs with ballers.

goodlooking men and thuggish manly dudes can get 6.5s-7.5s though.not the stunners.most goodlooking men date average girls.

Talk to any club bouncer.they will confirm this.don't listen to virgins on the internet.

M/S beats looks in quality of women.if you have all 3,good god.imagine looking like Goncalo Teixeira with millions of dollars and being a local DJ.

dat life.
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Postby theprimebait » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:47 pm

Get a Neck tattoo,Get a Facial scar,Get a buzz,get on HGH.dat slayer apparel.

if you haven't tried that and you still can't get slutty hotties you're beyond hope.

I'm gettin a neck tat soon with a complementary facial scar.I've changed my style completely to be more badboy/Raeggetonero.

hot females respect me much more and flirt with me.
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