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Postby Jester » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:16 am

eurobrat wrote:My Italian one smells like Olives for some reason.


What - you don't carry a comb??










(jk, jk, jk)









Oh and CONGRATULATIONS!
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Postby Jester » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:21 am

eurobrat wrote:It took me 4 years to get it, I'm currently looking at the Italian job market which isn't good as well (about the same for unemployment as Los Angeles).


You can now live anywhere in Schengen countries just so long as you don't work - correct? So you could pursue online income from a low-cost area of Portugal, southwest France, southern Italy, or a Greek island, right?

Good luck!
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Postby Jester » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:23 am

eurobrat wrote:There's my problem, I know about 8 words of Italian


Yeah but do you at least know the hand gestures?
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Postby eurobrat » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:33 am

Jester we need another meetup, my escape plan is very much underway.
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Postby Jester » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:54 am

eurobrat wrote:Jester we need another meetup,

Sure, same pub any evening, or bacon and eggs in Glendale any morning. Call me.

eurobrat wrote:my escape plan is very much underway.

I salute you!
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Postby eurobrat » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:29 pm

Jester wrote:
eurobrat wrote:It took me 4 years to get it, I'm currently looking at the Italian job market which isn't good as well (about the same for unemployment as Los Angeles).


You can now live anywhere in Schengen countries just so long as you don't work - correct? So you could pursue online income from a low-cost area of Portugal, southwest France, southern Italy, or a Greek island, right?

Good luck!


Wouldn't I get bored in those areas?
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Postby Jester » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:22 pm

eurobrat wrote:
Jester wrote:
eurobrat wrote:It took me 4 years to get it, I'm currently looking at the Italian job market which isn't good as well (about the same for unemployment as Los Angeles).


You can now live anywhere in Schengen countries just so long as you don't work - correct? So you could pursue online income from a low-cost area of Portugal, southwest France, southern Italy, or a Greek island, right?

Good luck!


Wouldn't I get bored in those areas?


Yeah, I suppose. Depends on what I thought was fun. Maybe you want to get laid by blondes from Northern Europe. So maybe Corfu or Mallorca would work better for you?

I guess my point is, if it was *ME* who had that second passport from a decent country like Italy -- I would travel on the Italian passport, pick a place to have fun that is cheap, not necessarily in Europe, and try living there.

If you are interested in brunettes, maybe we can meet up in Central Mexico. Or if you like German backpackers, we can meet up in Guatemala or Peru.

let me know :wink:
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Postby Jackal » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:46 am

Congratulations on your new passport!

eurobrat wrote:There's my problem, I know about 8 words of Italian

So? Learn!

There's nothing more American than giving up on learning foreign languages. Show that you're different. Learn Italian. There are tons of resources on the internet.
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Postby Jacaré » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:29 am

Congrats eurobrat! You're on the right track brother! And Italian as a language is not very difficult, it's probably one of the easiest languages in the world. 1-2 hours a day for 3 months will get to an almost conversational level. If you don't want to shell money, go to any torrent site and look for and download Italian Pimsleur lessons. They are the best bar none to learn any language.

I'd love to get also a 2nd passport in Europe...gotta do my research on that too.

In bocca al lupo amico mio!:) (all the best my friend :) ).
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Re: Just picked up my Italian Passport!

Postby publicduende » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:05 am

eurobrat wrote:I just picked up my Italian Passport this last week from the Italian Consulate, cost me only $100!


Paisa'!!! Sorry for being the last up on the thread but, well, congratulations! Mostly, kudos for having the guts to become a citizen of the weirdest country on planet Earth. :) When are you flying to Italy?

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Postby publicduende » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:08 am

Jester wrote:
eurobrat wrote:My Italian one smells like Olives for some reason.


What - you don't carry a comb??


With alopecia running rampant (and testosterone running high) among Italian men, combs will soon be a thing of yesterday.
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Postby Jester » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:13 am

publicduende wrote:
Jester wrote:
eurobrat wrote:My Italian one smells like Olives for some reason.


What - you don't carry a comb??


With alopecia running rampant (and testosterone running high) among Italian men, combs will soon be a thing of yesterday.


:lol:
OK well all I mean is just take damn good care of that passport.
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Postby eurobrat » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:36 am

Thanks guy's for the compliment. I'm looking into other things you can do with the citizenship like how much easier it is to start a business over there. From my understanding the IT business is still critically in need over in Italy. I also found out that there's a good sized tax break for buying your first property over in Italy???

I'm going to be over there for Xmas and the New Year. I already opened an Italian Paypal account and I'm looking at opening a bank account while I'm over there. Publicduende do you have any recommendations as to which bank is the best over in Italy?
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Postby eurobrat » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:52 am

Can anyone tell me why Feminism has gotten so out of control here in the USA and not places like Italy. What in gods name is driving it?
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Postby publicduende » Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:04 pm

eurobrat wrote:Thanks guy's for the compliment. I'm looking into other things you can do with the citizenship like how much easier it is to start a business over there. From my understanding the IT business is still critically in need over in Italy. I also found out that there's a good sized tax break for buying your first property over in Italy???

I'm going to be over there for Xmas and the New Year. I already opened an Italian Paypal account and I'm looking at opening a bank account while I'm over there. Publicduende do you have any recommendations as to which bank is the best over in Italy?


Ouch, sour topic. Italy has one of world's worst environments to open a new business and have it flourish. If you are planning to freelance, say, as an English teacher, your best bet is to open what we call "Partita IVA", which means you have an accounting book where you can post your invoices, claim expenses and pay (a lot of) taxes. Don't even think of setting up a limited company (called "Srl"), it takes a very long time and if you're not successful you may end up paying a lot in fixed and accounting costs. I don't have names as I don't know where you'll be living, but mail me when you're there and I can find you a good accountant ("commercialista") there.

As for banks, as I believe you won't have lots of sophisticated needs when starting out in Italy, there are quite a few zero-fee accounts available. One of the better ones is this one: http://www.youbanking.it/
The provider is usually a company that operates through a banking network. Sometimes the network is small, which means you might not live close enough to a bank branch where you can speak to a real person, so you'll be limited to online and phone customer service. This YouBanking seems to be linked to the Banco Popolare network, which is a federation of small regional banks and have quite a few branches all over Italy.

Another thing to bear in mind, our debit cards, called BancoMat, are not Visa cards. They belong to a national network called Maestro which allows your to withdraw money within Italy and in some parts of Slovenia, Austria, Switzerland and France. If you want to access your Italian money from abroad, you'd be better off asking for an additional debit card, usually a MasterCard (expenses are lower) or a Visa.

All the things above are only recommended if you're planning to spend at least 6 months, if not several years, in Italy. I doubt an Italian bank would let you open an account without proof that you intend to stay in Italy for a reasonable period (a few months, at least). Sorry if this sounds disappointing, but as a country we're sadly far, very far from being business friendly. :)

Yes there is a tax break and a reduced interest rate when buying your first property, however it's getting the mortgage itself that can be excruciating, especially if you can't show a proof of stable income. It's quite notorious that most temp workers (we call them "precari", or "unstable") on 600/1000 Euro net per month can only dream of buying a house.
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