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Postby skateboardstephen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:46 am

Pesquisa revela que raça é fator predominante na escolha de parceiros conjugais

Segundo o IBGE, entre os fatores que são levados em conta na escolha de um parceiro estão a renda, a educação e a cor ou raça.

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Pesquisa do Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (IBGE) divulgada hoje (17), comprova que a raça é fator predominante na escolha de parceiros conjugais. Dados do Censo 2010 mostram que 70% dos casamentos no país ocorrem entre pessoas de mesma cor e que as mulheres pretas (7% da população) são as que menos se casam.

Segundo a pesquisa, entre os fatores que são levados em conta na escolha de um parceiro estão a renda, a educação e a cor ou raça. São esses quesitos que influenciam a miscigenação e a mobilidade sociais, explica o pesquisador do IBGE José Luis Petruccelli, especialista na questão.

Nos últimos dez anos, as uniões em função da cor ou raça praticamente não se alteraram, avalia. Em 2010, 69,3% das pessoas com dez anos ou mais de idade uniam-se a outras de mesma cor ou raça, sendo que, em 2000, eram 70,9%. Se os casamentos não fossem influenciadas por questões raciais, o índice deveria ser de torno de 50%, embora já tenha sido de 80% em 1980.

“Isso desconstrói o mito da altíssima miscigenação da harmonia racial. Há uma seletividade, há um viés pela escolha do parceiro por cor ou raçaâ€￾, disse Petruccelli. Como os pretos e pardos (negros) estão entre os grupos com menor rendimento e nível de instrução, o pesquisador lembra que há uma “justaposiçãoâ€￾ de fatores que indicam uma “racializaçãoâ€￾ na escolha do parceiros.

O casamento entre pessoas de mesma cor ou raça é maior entre os brancos (74,5%), pardos (68,5%) e índios (65%), neste caso, relacionado à preservação dos povos. Entre homens e mulheres, chama a atenção a maior possibilidade de mulheres pretas ficarem solteiras. Entre as com mais de 50 anos, elas são maioria na categoria “celibato definitivoâ€￾, que nunca viveram com cônjuge.

Atualmente, 68,2% da população se casaram com pessoas do mesmo nível de instrução. As mulheres são mais exigentes, nesse critério. Do total de profissionais com ensino superior completo, 51% delas escolheram homens desse grupo. Entre eles, 47% fizeram escolha semelhante. As informações são da Agência Brasil.

I just thought this was interesting i was reading this off a news site based in Bahia,Brazil.It talks about the trends in Brazil as far as peoples racial preferences when it comes to marriage.This sort of debunks the idea of racial harmony in the country.It says that white men and women are more likely to marry with in their race and social economic level (figured that)74,.5% of them marry white.68.5% of brown people(pardos)marry other pardos and natives south American Indians marry other Indians 65% of the time.

The thing that caught my eye was the fact that they said that they said Afro-Brazilian women are the least likely to get married and are more likely to be forced in the celibacy never having a partner.Why is this?When they have way more pleasant attitudes and are more attractive including being more wife material than their north American counter parts.Any thoughts on this?Is it really about their attitudes or about their race or features when it comes to black women.Why are they being excluded like this even in Brazil?
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Postby djfourmoney » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:33 am

Hmm, that's interesting. Is that because the Black male population is Bahia is venturing South to Rio and other areas with mostly brown or white Brazilians in them?

I never had flowery thoughts about Brazil's so-called racial harmony, now when the vast majority of poor in Brazil are Afro heritage. This is the same problem in Colombia nobody wants to talk about. I am not sure about Peru and it has a sizable Afro population.

Research reveals that race is predominant factor in choosing marital partners

According to the IBGE, among the factors that are taken into account when choosing a partner are income, education and race or color.

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Survey of the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics (IBGE) released today (17), proves that race is predominant factor in choosing marital partners. Data from the 2010 Census show that 70% of marriages in the country occur between people of the same color and that black women (7% of the population) are the least likely to marry.

According to the survey, among the factors that are taken into account when choosing a partner are income, education and race or color. These are questions that influence miscegenation and social mobility, the researcher explains the IBGE José Luis Petruccelli, an expert on the issue.

Over the past decade, unions on the basis of color or race hardly changed, he says. In 2010, 69.3% of those with ten or more years of age were united to others of the same color or race, and in 2000 were 70.9%. If marriages were not influenced by racial issues, the rate should be around 50%, although it has been 80% in 1980.

"It deconstructs the myth of the high miscegenation racial harmony. There is a selectivity, there is a bias for mate selection by color or race, "said Petruccelli. As blacks and browns (blacks) are among the groups with lower income and education level, the researcher points out that there is a "juxtaposition" of factors that indicate a "racialization" in choosing partners.

Marriage between people of the same color or race is higher among whites (74.5%), brown (68.5%) and Indians (65%), in this case related to the preservation of the people. Among men and women, draws attention to higher likelihood of black women remain unmarried. Among the more than 50 years, they are mostly in the category "definitive celibacy", who have never lived with a spouse.

Currently, 68.2% of the married people of the same education level. Women are more demanding this criterion. Of the total number of professionals with higher education, 51% of them chose men of this group. Among them, 47% had similar choice. The information provided by Agencia Brazil.
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Postby djfourmoney » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:37 am

Actually its no different in America - http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2011/02/11/onlinedating/

According to the study, more than 80 percent of the online dating contacts initiated by whites were to other whites, with only 3 percent going to blacks. This trend held for both men and women, young and old. Although black participants initiated contact to members of their own race more than to whites, they were ten times more likely to contact whites than vice versa, according the the study.


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Re: Black women in Brazil least likely to marry?

Postby Dragon » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:38 am

skateboardstephen wrote:Pesquisa revela que raça é fator predominante na escolha de parceiros conjugais

Segundo o IBGE, entre os fatores que são levados em conta na escolha de um parceiro estão a renda, a educação e a cor ou raça.

Da Redação
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Pesquisa do Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (IBGE) divulgada hoje (17), comprova que a raça é fator predominante na escolha de parceiros conjugais. Dados do Censo 2010 mostram que 70% dos casamentos no país ocorrem entre pessoas de mesma cor e que as mulheres pretas (7% da população) são as que menos se casam.

Segundo a pesquisa, entre os fatores que são levados em conta na escolha de um parceiro estão a renda, a educação e a cor ou raça. São esses quesitos que influenciam a miscigenação e a mobilidade sociais, explica o pesquisador do IBGE José Luis Petruccelli, especialista na questão.

Nos últimos dez anos, as uniões em função da cor ou raça praticamente não se alteraram, avalia. Em 2010, 69,3% das pessoas com dez anos ou mais de idade uniam-se a outras de mesma cor ou raça, sendo que, em 2000, eram 70,9%. Se os casamentos não fossem influenciadas por questões raciais, o índice deveria ser de torno de 50%, embora já tenha sido de 80% em 1980.

“Isso desconstrói o mito da altíssima miscigenação da harmonia racial. Há uma seletividade, há um viés pela escolha do parceiro por cor ou raçaâ€￾, disse Petruccelli. Como os pretos e pardos (negros) estão entre os grupos com menor rendimento e nível de instrução, o pesquisador lembra que há uma “justaposiçãoâ€￾ de fatores que indicam uma “racializaçãoâ€￾ na escolha do parceiros.

O casamento entre pessoas de mesma cor ou raça é maior entre os brancos (74,5%), pardos (68,5%) e índios (65%), neste caso, relacionado à preservação dos povos. Entre homens e mulheres, chama a atenção a maior possibilidade de mulheres pretas ficarem solteiras. Entre as com mais de 50 anos, elas são maioria na categoria “celibato definitivoâ€￾, que nunca viveram com cônjuge.

Atualmente, 68,2% da população se casaram com pessoas do mesmo nível de instrução. As mulheres são mais exigentes, nesse critério. Do total de profissionais com ensino superior completo, 51% delas escolheram homens desse grupo. Entre eles, 47% fizeram escolha semelhante. As informações são da Agência Brasil.

I just thought this was interesting i was reading this off a news site based in Bahia,Brazil.It talks about the trends in Brazil as far as peoples racial preferences when it comes to marriage.This sort of debunks the idea of racial harmony in the country.It says that white men and women are more likely to marry with in their race and social economic level (figured that)74,.5% of them marry white.68.5% of brown people(pardos)marry other pardos and natives south American Indians marry other Indians 65% of the time.

The thing that caught my eye was the fact that they said that they said Afro-Brazilian women are the least likely to get married and are more likely to be forced in the celibacy never having a partner.Why is this?When they have way more pleasant attitudes and are more attractive including being more wife material than their north American counter parts.Any thoughts on this?Is it really about their attitudes or about their race or features when it comes to black women.Why are they being excluded like this even in Brazil?


Racial harmony debunked? Really? I though it was known since the beginning of time that generally speaking, each ethnicity usually prefers to date their own kind. Whether that is a bad thing or not is another topic.

As for the Afro-Brazilian babes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ctive.html

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your- ... -you-back/

Our chocolate sisters seem to usually get the short end of the stick when it comes to dating. Maybe because Brazil has been westernized (different from modernized) to such an extent that views involving attractiveness have been skewed.
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Postby Falcon » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:57 am

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Re: Black women in Brazil least likely to marry?

Postby skateboardstephen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:57 am

Dragon wrote:
skateboardstephen wrote:Pesquisa revela que raça é fator predominante na escolha de parceiros conjugais

Segundo o IBGE, entre os fatores que são levados em conta na escolha de um parceiro estão a renda, a educação e a cor ou raça.

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Pesquisa do Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (IBGE) divulgada hoje (17), comprova que a raça é fator predominante na escolha de parceiros conjugais. Dados do Censo 2010 mostram que 70% dos casamentos no país ocorrem entre pessoas de mesma cor e que as mulheres pretas (7% da população) são as que menos se casam.

Segundo a pesquisa, entre os fatores que são levados em conta na escolha de um parceiro estão a renda, a educação e a cor ou raça. São esses quesitos que influenciam a miscigenação e a mobilidade sociais, explica o pesquisador do IBGE José Luis Petruccelli, especialista na questão.

Nos últimos dez anos, as uniões em função da cor ou raça praticamente não se alteraram, avalia. Em 2010, 69,3% das pessoas com dez anos ou mais de idade uniam-se a outras de mesma cor ou raça, sendo que, em 2000, eram 70,9%. Se os casamentos não fossem influenciadas por questões raciais, o índice deveria ser de torno de 50%, embora já tenha sido de 80% em 1980.

“Isso desconstrói o mito da altíssima miscigenação da harmonia racial. Há uma seletividade, há um viés pela escolha do parceiro por cor ou raçaâ€￾, disse Petruccelli. Como os pretos e pardos (negros) estão entre os grupos com menor rendimento e nível de instrução, o pesquisador lembra que há uma “justaposiçãoâ€￾ de fatores que indicam uma “racializaçãoâ€￾ na escolha do parceiros.

O casamento entre pessoas de mesma cor ou raça é maior entre os brancos (74,5%), pardos (68,5%) e índios (65%), neste caso, relacionado à preservação dos povos. Entre homens e mulheres, chama a atenção a maior possibilidade de mulheres pretas ficarem solteiras. Entre as com mais de 50 anos, elas são maioria na categoria “celibato definitivoâ€￾, que nunca viveram com cônjuge.

Atualmente, 68,2% da população se casaram com pessoas do mesmo nível de instrução. As mulheres são mais exigentes, nesse critério. Do total de profissionais com ensino superior completo, 51% delas escolheram homens desse grupo. Entre eles, 47% fizeram escolha semelhante. As informações são da Agência Brasil.

I just thought this was interesting i was reading this off a news site based in Bahia,Brazil.It talks about the trends in Brazil as far as peoples racial preferences when it comes to marriage.This sort of debunks the idea of racial harmony in the country.It says that white men and women are more likely to marry with in their race and social economic level (figured that)74,.5% of them marry white.68.5% of brown people(pardos)marry other pardos and natives south American Indians marry other Indians 65% of the time.

The thing that caught my eye was the fact that they said that they said Afro-Brazilian women are the least likely to get married and are more likely to be forced in the celibacy never having a partner.Why is this?When they have way more pleasant attitudes and are more attractive including being more wife material than their north American counter parts.Any thoughts on this?Is it really about their attitudes or about their race or features when it comes to black women.Why are they being excluded like this even in Brazil?


Racial harmony debunked? Really? I though it was known since the beginning of time that generally speaking, each ethnicity usually prefers to date their own kind. Whether that is a bad thing or not is another topic.

As for the Afro-Brazilian babes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ctive.html

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your- ... -you-back/

Our chocolate sisters seem to usually get the short end of the stick when it comes to dating. Maybe because Brazil has been westernized (different from modernized) to such an extent that views involving attractiveness have been skewed.


“Isso desconstrói o mito da altíssima miscigenação da harmonia racial.Hey don't kill the messenger that came from the the mouth of the Brazilian media.sorry for it being in Portuguese guys.I just thought that black men going to Brazil should take this into consideration.But by no means does this mean Black men can't get any women of any race there.
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Postby djfourmoney » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:01 am

As somebody said recently on a show I was watching, in time our great, great grandchildren will look back at the 19-21th Centuries focus on racial differences based on overall skin color will seem extremely foolish to them.

I am not dark chocolate, no reason to chase around dark chocolate women. If certain men want that, more power to them, more selection too, I will not be made to feel guilty about the choices I make that don't affect anybody else directly or indirectly.
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Postby skateboardstephen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:20 am

djfourmoney wrote:As somebody said recently on a show I was watching, in time our great, great grandchildren will look back at the 19-21th Centuries focus on racial differences based on overall skin color will seem extremely foolish to them.

I am not dark chocolate, no reason to chase around dark chocolate women. If certain men want that, more power to them, more selection too, I will not be made to feel guilty about the choices I make that don't affect anybody else directly or indirectly.


I feel ya bro.But with all due respect(and i do highly respect you) even though i was also willing to marry a women of any race just as long as we clicked it just didn't happen that way(and i have been with white women).But through out history interracial unions have had a negative effect on blacks when we look at the attitude of the children who come from these unions towards blacks.Look at Dominican Republic.

A lot of them have Afro heritage but can be pretty racist towards blacks and will only claim Spanish ancestry even if they are black as flavor flav and the black population there especially from Haiti are treated like second class citizens.This is not a diss towards my Dominican brothers who are cool.It seems as if the mixed population all ways turns on blacks and oppresses them in the long run.
So it could negatively affect the black diaspora.Just a theory.But i stand to be corrected.But buy all means where ever you find a loyal women no matter what stick with her Black men.
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Postby skateboardstephen » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:33 am

Thanks for the translation Dj4 money my lazy ass didn't bother LoL
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Postby Dragon » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:37 am

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Postby djfourmoney » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:29 pm

skateboardstephen wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:As somebody said recently on a show I was watching, in time our great, great grandchildren will look back at the 19-21th Centuries focus on racial differences based on overall skin color will seem extremely foolish to them.

I am not dark chocolate, no reason to chase around dark chocolate women. If certain men want that, more power to them, more selection too, I will not be made to feel guilty about the choices I make that don't affect anybody else directly or indirectly.


I feel ya bro.But with all due respect(and i do highly respect you) even though i was also willing to marry a women of any race just as long as we clicked it just didn't happen that way(and i have been with white women).But through out history interracial unions have had a negative effect on blacks when we look at the attitude of the children who come from these unions towards blacks.Look at Dominican Republic.

A lot of them have Afro heritage but can be pretty racist towards blacks and will only claim Spanish ancestry even if they are black as flavor flav and the black population there especially from Haiti are treated like second class citizens.This is not a diss towards my Dominican brothers who are cool.It seems as if the mixed population all ways turns on blacks and oppresses them in the long run.
So it could negatively affect the black diaspora.Just a theory.But i stand to be corrected.But buy all means where ever you find a loyal women no matter what stick with her Black men.


I fully understand what you mean. My extended family is full of mixed race children and they identify with the seed as somebody once said. Sure you will have outliers you always do, I remember a girl on Montel Williams that could pass for White as some mixed race people do was embarrassed about her darker (not Flavor Flav) but my skin tone (milk chocolate) father dropping her off at school. This was the mid 90's and outside of the Northeast or West Coast, attitudes towards mixed races was not as acceptable.

My children will identify with being Black because its obvious in my behavior to a degree but all their extended family is typical Black east coast/south east behavior. Besides once they fully understand the stigma of being Black like it is for us will again be reduced.

There is quite a bit unsolved but I hope my children will not go to primary school in the United States and not in South America where education is a bit substandard.
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Postby Anti-American » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:55 pm

djfourmoney wrote:
skateboardstephen wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:As somebody said recently on a show I was watching, in time our great, great grandchildren will look back at the 19-21th Centuries focus on racial differences based on overall skin color will seem extremely foolish to them.

I am not dark chocolate, no reason to chase around dark chocolate women. If certain men want that, more power to them, more selection too, I will not be made to feel guilty about the choices I make that don't affect anybody else directly or indirectly.


I feel ya bro.But with all due respect(and i do highly respect you) even though i was also willing to marry a women of any race just as long as we clicked it just didn't happen that way(and i have been with white women).But through out history interracial unions have had a negative effect on blacks when we look at the attitude of the children who come from these unions towards blacks.Look at Dominican Republic.

A lot of them have Afro heritage but can be pretty racist towards blacks and will only claim Spanish ancestry even if they are black as flavor flav and the black population there especially from Haiti are treated like second class citizens.This is not a diss towards my Dominican brothers who are cool.It seems as if the mixed population all ways turns on blacks and oppresses them in the long run.
So it could negatively affect the black diaspora.Just a theory.But i stand to be corrected.But buy all means where ever you find a loyal women no matter what stick with her Black men.


I fully understand what you mean. My extended family is full of mixed race children and they identify with the seed as somebody once said. Sure you will have outliers you always do, I remember a girl on Montel Williams that could pass for White as some mixed race people do was embarrassed about her darker (not Flavor Flav) but my skin tone (milk chocolate) father dropping her off at school. This was the mid 90's and outside of the Northeast or West Coast, attitudes towards mixed races was not as acceptable.

My children will identify with being Black because its obvious in my behavior to a degree but all their extended family is typical Black east coast/south east behavior. Besides once they fully understand the stigma of being Black like it is for us will again be reduced.

There is quite a bit unsolved but I hope my children will not go to primary school in the United States and not in South America where education is a bit substandard.


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Postby Maker55 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:24 pm

Meh, who cares if the light skinned Brazilian men don't want the Afro-Brazilians.

They're a bunch of faggots anyway...

As a black man, I would love to get with the attractive Afro-Brazilian women .
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Postby djfourmoney » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:31 pm

Anti-American wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:
skateboardstephen wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:As somebody said recently on a show I was watching, in time our great, great grandchildren will look back at the 19-21th Centuries focus on racial differences based on overall skin color will seem extremely foolish to them.

I am not dark chocolate, no reason to chase around dark chocolate women. If certain men want that, more power to them, more selection too, I will not be made to feel guilty about the choices I make that don't affect anybody else directly or indirectly.


I feel ya bro.But with all due respect(and i do highly respect you) even though i was also willing to marry a women of any race just as long as we clicked it just didn't happen that way(and i have been with white women).But through out history interracial unions have had a negative effect on blacks when we look at the attitude of the children who come from these unions towards blacks.Look at Dominican Republic.

A lot of them have Afro heritage but can be pretty racist towards blacks and will only claim Spanish ancestry even if they are black as flavor flav and the black population there especially from Haiti are treated like second class citizens.This is not a diss towards my Dominican brothers who are cool.It seems as if the mixed population all ways turns on blacks and oppresses them in the long run.
So it could negatively affect the black diaspora.Just a theory.But i stand to be corrected.But buy all means where ever you find a loyal women no matter what stick with her Black men.


I fully understand what you mean. My extended family is full of mixed race children and they identify with the seed as somebody once said. Sure you will have outliers you always do, I remember a girl on Montel Williams that could pass for White as some mixed race people do was embarrassed about her darker (not Flavor Flav) but my skin tone (milk chocolate) father dropping her off at school. This was the mid 90's and outside of the Northeast or West Coast, attitudes towards mixed races was not as acceptable.

My children will identify with being Black because its obvious in my behavior to a degree but all their extended family is typical Black east coast/south east behavior. Besides once they fully understand the stigma of being Black like it is for us will again be reduced.

There is quite a bit unsolved but I hope my children will not go to primary school in the United States and not in South America where education is a bit substandard.


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