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Women Are Innately More Valuable Than Men

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Postby Jester » Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:42 am

I'll be starring in the new edition of "Survivor: Mindanao"
"Pick a point and go to it."
-- Dr John Hunsucker, speaking about canoeing on Georgia's Lake Lanier, with its irregular shape, and 1000 miles of meandering shoreline
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Postby Cornfed » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:35 am

The other thing to realize about the differences in male and female reproduction is that it explains why women tend to be treacherous cowards and selfish parasites. Not only are breeding aged women more valuable in reproductive terms, but they would have tended to be either pregnant or caring for young children or both almost all their lives in natural settings. Therefore it would have been strongly selected against for females to take part in intertribal fighting, since a bunch of pregnant females with their toddlers in tow would not add much to the tribe's fighting ability and if a lot of them were killed then any victory would be pyrrhic anyway. Hence they nag their men into fighting. If their men lose the females will instantly forget about them and spread their legs for men on the winning side, ensuring that they not only survive but breed with the stronger men, improving the viability of their genetic line. Similarly it would not be a good idea for them to hunt woolly mammoths and such. The female strategy is simply to ingratiate themselves with the men in charge in order to sponge off them while doing as little as possible. Since they avoid activities like hunting and warfare, they never had to develop the mental capacity or strategic thinking abilities that go with those activities. All this is well and good. It is only when people start pretending that women are capable of having the same virtues of men, or basing systems of government on their parasitical tendencies, that problems arise.
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Postby Jester » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:02 am

Cornfed wrote:The other thing to realize about the differences in male and female reproduction is that it explains why women tend to be treacherous cowards and selfish parasites. Not only are breeding aged women more valuable in reproductive terms, but they would have tended to be either pregnant or caring for young children or both almost all their lives in natural settings. Therefore it would have been strongly selected against for females to take part in intertribal fighting, since a bunch of pregnant females with their toddlers in tow would not add much to the tribe's fighting ability and if a lot of them were killed then any victory would be pyrrhic anyway. Hence they nag their men into fighting. If their men lose the females will instantly forget about them and spread their legs for men on the winning side, ensuring that they not only survive but breed with the stronger men, improving the viability of their genetic line. Similarly it would not be a good idea for them to hunt woolly mammoths and such. The female strategy is simply to ingratiate themselves with the men in charge in order to sponge off them while doing as little as possible. Since they avoid activities like hunting and warfare, they never had to develop the mental capacity or strategic thinking abilities that go with those activities. All this is well and good. It is only when people start pretending that women are capable of having the same virtues of men, or basing systems of government on their parasitical tendencies, that problems arise.


Well said.

OK - so now we know the female strategy. What should the male strategy be, for maximum quantity and quality of offspring?
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Postby Teal Lantern » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:32 pm

Jester wrote:OK - so now we know the female strategy. What should the male strategy be, for maximum quantity and quality of offspring?


Setting aside pesky legalities (and possibly morality). :wink:

maximum quantity = being a giant d-bag. :razz:

maximum quality = killing off the d-bags and their offspring, too. :shock: :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory
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Postby Ginger » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:39 pm

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Postby Jester » Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:17 pm

Teal Lantern wrote:
Jester wrote:OK - so now we know the female strategy. What should the male strategy be, for maximum quantity and quality of offspring?


Setting aside pesky legalities (and possibly morality). :wink:

maximum quantity = being a giant d-bag. :razz:

maximum quality = killing off the d-bags and their offspring, too. :shock: :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory


Great article.



"In areas of major ecological disruption or sterilisation (such as after a major volcanic eruption, as at Krakatoa or Mount Saint Helens)... Because of their higher reproductive rates and ecological opportunism, primary colonisers typically are r-strategists..."

"In unstable or unpredictable environments, r-selection predominates as the ability to reproduce quickly is crucial. There is little advantage in adaptations that permit successful competition with other organisms, because the environment is likely to change again. Traits that are thought to be characteristic of r-selection include: high fecundity, small body size, early maturity onset, short generation time, and the ability to disperse offspring widely."


Fecundity seems to be correlated with fundamentalist religion and also dark skin, don't ask me why.
Early maturity onset is correlated also with dark skin, I believe.
Smal body size - well, you have Asians.

That little dark Pinay looks better and better.
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Postby Jester » Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:45 pm

Teal Lantern wrote:
Jester wrote:OK - so now we know the female strategy. What should the male strategy be, for maximum quantity and quality of offspring?


[color=darkblue]Setting aside pesky legalities (and possibly morality). :wink:

...maximum quality = killing off the d-bags and their offspring, too. :shock: :D


To me, what the article calls the "K" strategy, i.e. the low-fertility, high survival model, only works if you have compatriots. Being a Lone Elephant is pretty tough. I guess a few Jews pulled this off during settlement of the U.S. frontier, being the only Jew in town, but it couldn't have been easy.

This COULD work if you controlled some terrain and executed all NWO interlopers, NGO spies, etc. Kind of like Tokugawa Japan, or a German Christian colony in South America, or the old Boer republics. I think Bhutan was like this till recently - no TV etc. There's a Catholic-roots fundamentalist colony in Mexico, called New Jerusalem. There are Mennonites in U.S., Canada, and Belize. And of course polygamous Mormons in the U.S. and Mexico.

I guess you could say that Thailand as a whole works this way - nice people but just don't insult them or be a troublemaker in any way, or else...? Other Asian countries as well? Some countries in Middle East?

And there are less-conscious groups that persist simply due to extreme isolation. Faroe Islanders, etc. But you know, there are no uninhabited islands these days, except ones that are uninhabitable (no water).

I guess one would have to call the Mormons and very-orthodox Jews the real modern examples of the K or high-survival strategy, because they are competitive enough to prosper among other "species", gradually growing more powerful. I would have to put the Mormns first, because unlike orthodox Jews they are found in all professions, and could push all other groups out and still do just fine.

But we are back to the quandary that FSchmidt found himself in. For this strategy to work, you have to either join someone elses' already-successful-and-resilient cult - or start your own.
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Postby Jester » Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:52 pm

Ginger wrote:

Jester wrote:OK - so now we know the female strategy. What should the male strategy be, for maximum quantity and quality of offspring?



Just suck it up and live with it :P It works :)

You guys don't have the most coveted thingy in the world. It's called The Uterus. Orson Scott Card says so :P (or some other dude)


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Postby Jester » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:37 pm

Falcon wrote:
Jester wrote:Let's say that Olaf the Viking is going on a raid, and wants to steal a woman or three.

Let's say that he can sail to Amazonia, which is heavily defended. Because of their defenses, he is pretty sure that he can steal one and only one (1) woman who will bear him three (3) warrior sons.

OR...

He can sail to Tranquillia, where the pickings are easy, and he can steal three (3) women, who will EACH give him three (3) sons - though they may not be such great warriors. Maybe each of these sons will be only half-effective at war-making and conquering. According to evolutionary biology, which strategy should he choose? Where should he sail to?


Both of them work. They're different evolutionary strategies.

Genghis Khan did the Tranquilia option, and he's been greatly successful. Some others did the Amazonia option, which has worked well too.

Did Amazonia first time around, f***ing hard, great results, an uphill battle, all uphill, f***ing hard.

Tranquillia beckons.
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Postby Andrewww » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:19 pm

Allow me to ignore that pseudo-history BS, who comes up with this crap ?

Hypergamy was a given because women were always second class citizens. I don't mean to insult anyone, it's well known fact that men ruled society for thousands of years. You can't marry down when you have nothing on your name.

Also, we are not in 50,000 BC anymore. Stop comparing modern woman mentality with cave-woman mentality. I've seen this kind of diarrhea on PUA forums and I think that's where it originates. Looking for a provider is a rational behavior and AW aren't rational, they have nothing to gain by hooking up with losers. It's not instinct, it's brainwashing.

The sexual revolution didn't happen only in America, many societies managed to keep their traditional values while providing more freedom for women.
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