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Interesting article about immigration out of W. Europe

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Postby swedpdlr » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:07 pm

Take into consideration also, most countries and blocks of countries that EU itself, also others, are closing their borders to foreigners, especially those w/o any money or assets. Never been harder compared to now. Politicians all over the world favor *globalization* they say in public. In practice they act the other way, fences and obstacles built constantly to prevent people migrating and go for options globally.
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Postby djfourmoney » Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:36 am

#SMH... When are you people going to learn that these issues don't impact YOU a first world citizen. What they are talking about is people from countries escaping tyrants, wars and in the near future climate change (drought/flood).

I also know about Europeans (especially those from the countries impacted by austerity) moving to countries like Angola because like in Portugal, Portuguese is spoken in Angola.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-2 ... d-mobility

http://ia601502.us.archive.org/32/items ... 0-2012.mp3 <--- Truth about Markets, Max Kieser and Stacy Herbert talking about this very subject.
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Postby Ghost » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:55 am

Makes me wonder if Americans will ever make a mass exodus out of the States? I know I certainly am, and it seems like everybody knows somebody who has. But on the other hand, the myth of the U.S. being the best of everything continues along, and with the media control, I guess that won't change for quite some time. So much the better for us. We don't need more competition.
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Postby djfourmoney » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:33 am

Ghost wrote:Makes me wonder if Americans will ever make a mass exodus out of the States? I know I certainly am, and it seems like everybody knows somebody who has. But on the other hand, the myth of the U.S. being the best of everything continues along, and with the media control, I guess that won't change for quite some time. So much the better for us. We don't need more competition.


You concerned about "competition"? Over 3 Million Americans have a home address not in the United States or its territories.

That said, much like the coming of climate refugees (already seen in Africa, what do you think most of the conflicts are about?) many Americans will be flat stuck. Look at Hurricane Sandy and the reaction in Lower Manhattan, that is a window in the future. Watch Earth 2100, these types of climate events will get more frequent and they'll end up building a sea wall.

Where are these people going to go if they can't stay in NYC? Look at Katrina, there are refugees from that hurricane here in California... That is where most of the people will go, they will go where the weather events are less impactful. California might experience continuous drought but there already plans to desalinate the Pacific Ocean for drinking water. By the time this happens, we'll have much better machines than what's currently in the Middle East.

Solar Power and residential natural gas powered hydrogen generators (Bloombox) will become the norm even in the 'hood.

The cold hard facts are - http://www.ustravel.org/news/press-kit/ ... statistics

More than half of Americans have never been on a plane.

I think its 10% have Passports, among the Black Population less than 1% have a passport.

Economically, they can't afford to even think about going overseas, here's the other reason - http://travel.booklocker.com/2011/11/14 ... expensive/

That said that web site is about traveling on the cheap...
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Postby Jester » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:40 am

Ghost wrote:Makes me wonder if Americans will ever make a mass exodus out of the States? I know I certainly am, and it seems like everybody knows somebody who has. But on the other hand, the myth of the U.S. being the best of everything continues along, and with the media control, I guess that won't change for quite some time. So much the better for us. We don't need more competition.


When people started leaving Bolshevik Russia or Communist Cuba, they kept leaving for years. Sometimes it happens in waves. It doesn't happen all at once. So you're in a position to get there first, get established, then start selling real estate to the panicked latecomers. Or if they're ragged refugees by then, hire them and put them to work in a call center. Give them a place to live and charge rent. Do well by doing good.
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