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Postby OzGuy » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:11 pm

I agree, it's exactly the same in australia.

Here in Switzerland it's completely the opposite. Every day I see children as young as 6 walking to and from school on their own. No parent would ever allow this in Australia!

Also women here aren't so afraid of men either. They don't think that every man out there is a potential rapist or murderer. In australia it is interesting to observe the behavior of women when they enter a bus or train. They scan the area and choose a seat as far away as possible from all men. This is why you often see clusters of women sitting together. Secondly whenever I have been walking down the street at night and a woman is heading my direction, she will quickly cross the road to get away from me once she realises I'm a man.
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Postby Teal Lantern » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:27 pm

golgi wrote:Bonus points to whoever can discern the political-end to having a society wherein trust is non-existant in the general-population. Think about what the root of political power is.


A population divided against itself -- and easily controlled.
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Postby HenryGeorge » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:19 am

It's a combination of the schooling system that teaches kids from early on to (Gasp!) avoid strangers as much as you possibly can, and the Media that encourages this type of behavior throughout people's lives.
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Postby jamesbond » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:09 pm

HenryGeorge wrote:It's a combination of the schooling system that teaches kids from early on to (Gasp!) avoid strangers as much as you possibly can, and the Media that encourages this type of behavior throughout people's lives.


Yes, that's exactly what it is. We are taught from an early age "don't talk to strangers." This is a good idea for children but as adults we carry that same mindset with us.

The news media bambards the airwaves with stories like "a woman was found raped and beaten" and "a woman was robbed at gunpoint" and "an intruder broke into a woman's home and raped her." You hear these news stories everyday on the radio and tv. You also hear about "stalkers" that are going after women.

When women hear these news stories everyday year after year, they become paranoid of men and try to avoid men as much as possible. Maybe this explains why cold approaching women does not work in America, the women are just too fearful of men.
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Postby skateboardstephen » Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:32 pm

It is funny because in the States i asked a kid to just take a picture for me with my camera and i offered to even pay him and he looked at me like i had four heads.In Brazil kids openly will talk to you and are not as nearly afraid of men.In rio kids where coming up on me asking for money but for a shoe shine though,i declined and just gave them a couple of bucks to help them out.
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Postby Winston » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:31 am

I was wondering about this. How is it that people who live in more dangerous and chaotic societies with higher petty crime, such as Russia or Latin America, are far less paranoid of strangers, than people in very safe societies such as the US suburbs or Taiwan, where people live in constant fear of strangers?

Is there a logical explanation for this? It seems to go the opposite of logic.

Ladislav, what do you think?
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Postby Moretorque » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:29 am

Good morning Mr. Wu. :D
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Postby ladislav » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:53 pm

In Switzerland as well as in Japan you have a highly educated population. Can't say the same about US, Auz, etc.

Ladislav, what do you think?

Maybe the cause and effect are reversed here? Because they are not afraid of strangers may be the reason why the crime is so high.
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Postby FreeWanderer » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:49 pm

Its not just fear/Paranoia- its the fact that people are "burnt out" socially.

In America, we are forced into abiding by a completely unnatural form of socialization- we must fake smile everywhere we go, we must go through "pleasantries" with acquaintances we don't really know, acting as though we care- many people are put off when someone does decide to get personal and tell a person that they aren't doing okay.

Many of the people working are in service jobs where everyone has to act like they are super happy all the time, and the reality is the people being served are total assholes. It create a bitterness in people that they never have time to recover from.

No one wants take time to get to know anyone anymore because everyone is convinced the person approaching them is looking to get their money, or "get" something out of them. How often do people you know call you up and offer to help you out, or invite you to a dinner they are cooking? Apart from my parents, its never happened.

The only friendly people to ever approach me are usually trying to sell me something. If a girl, out of the blue, started chatting me up and was making the effort to make flirty conversation with me, the first thing out of my mouth would- "I'm flattered, but i don't mess with prosti-tutes."

Either everyone is afraid or burnt out. It is important to put plenty of blame on the business obcessed culture of the West.
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Postby kai1275 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:43 pm

FreeWanderer wrote:Its not just fear/Paranoia- its the fact that people are "burnt out" socially.

In America, we are forced into abiding by a completely unnatural form of socialization- we must fake smile everywhere we go, we must go through "pleasantries" with acquaintances we don't really know, acting as though we care- many people are put off when someone does decide to get personal and tell a person that they aren't doing okay.

Many of the people working are in service jobs where everyone has to act like they are super happy all the time, and the reality is the people being served are total assholes. It create a bitterness in people that they never have time to recover from.

No one wants take time to get to know anyone anymore because everyone is convinced the person approaching them is looking to get their money, or "get" something out of them. How often do people you know call you up and offer to help you out, or invite you to a dinner they are cooking? Apart from my parents, its never happened.

The only friendly people to ever approach me are usually trying to sell me something. If a girl, out of the blue, started chatting me up and was making the effort to make flirty conversation with me, the first thing out of my mouth would- "I'm flattered, but i don't mess with prosti-tutes."

Either everyone is afraid or burnt out. It is important to put plenty of blame on the business obcessed culture of the West.


Excellent point! I bitch and complain about how bank fees, processing fees, and all kinds of other shit I deal with daily have hidden costs, but to my wife she thinks I am just being cranky. In China, people are not always charged fees for the smallest things. I am having to teach her that in America, if anyone offers you anything, always ask them "How Much?" first because nothing is free and everything here is for sale. There is ALWAYS some motherf***er constantly putting his hands in my pockets in some way..

Anyone approaching you these days are trying to sell you something. That is what makes Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses easy as hell to spot down the street. If anything they should probably shift their approaches to online cold approaches and hire hackers to surprise people online. This is also the reason why cold approaches in the US have an enormous failure rate. Even guys with high lay counts also receive a high proportion of failures.
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Postby Moretorque » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:00 pm

The more you barrow the more you go in debt, the more you go in debt the more you become land of the fee rather than land of the free.
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Postby Jester » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:16 pm

Moretorque wrote:The more you barrow the more you go in debt, the more you go in debt the more you become land of the fee rather than land of the free.


Good one :lol:
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Postby jamesbond » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:06 pm

FreeWanderer wrote:Its not just fear/Paranoia- its the fact that people are "burnt out" socially.

In America, we are forced into abiding by a completely unnatural form of socialization- we must fake smile everywhere we go, we must go through "pleasantries" with acquaintances we don't really know, acting as though we care- many people are put off when someone does decide to get personal and tell a person that they aren't doing okay.

Many of the people working are in service jobs where everyone has to act like they are super happy all the time, and the reality is the people being served are total assholes. It create a bitterness in people that they never have time to recover from.

No one wants take time to get to know anyone anymore because everyone is convinced the person approaching them is looking to get their money, or "get" something out of them. How often do people you know call you up and offer to help you out, or invite you to a dinner they are cooking? Apart from my parents, its never happened.

The only friendly people to ever approach me are usually trying to sell me something. If a girl, out of the blue, started chatting me up and was making the effort to make flirty conversation with me, the first thing out of my mouth would- "I'm flattered, but i don't mess with prosti-tutes."

Either everyone is afraid or burnt out. It is important to put plenty of blame on the business obcessed culture of the West.

Yes, in America, if someone approaches you, they either want to sell you something or try to convert you to their religion.

What I really hate is being at a stop light and having someone come up to my car window and try to get me to donate money to their cause. Please leave me alone, I am just stopping at a red light, can't I be left alone sitting at a red light in my car? :shock:
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Postby FlyingMoose » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:08 pm

golgi wrote:and then there's the whole Fukishima thing.


Excellent unintentional example of American paranoia.
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