What is a Gold Digger?

[Ginger]

A guy who makes 200k a year while the girl makes $12hr and stays home is not a gold digger. A gold digger would be if the girl is constantly pressuring her man to buy her expensive gifts, take her to lavish restaurants and vacations all the time, etc. A gold digger simply just utilizes the man's cash, regardless of what he makes. If a guy makes $50k a year and she makes him spend $1k-$2k a month on her for gifts and other crap, then she's a gold digger. If a guy makes $30k a year and she makes him spend $1k a month on her, she's a gold digger. A gold digger will use whatever she can out of the man, regardless of what he makes. A gold digger can also be a woman that just starts a relationship with a guy just because of the "lifestyle" he can provide. In general, the majority of AW are gold diggers. Most will just hide it better than others.

True.

[davewe]

Best way to find out if she's truly into you, tell her you're going through some rough times and don't take her anywhere for a few months. Just invite her over to your place and see how she reacts. If she genuinely enjoys your company she won't get bored and she'll just be happy to come over. If she truly loves you maybe she'll do the groceries also and cook you a nice meal.

I know guys who do stuff like this, and I get the reasoning, but it's not for me. For example, I know a couple guys who will travel with their girl, stay in crap hotels and go to cheap restaurants - all to see if she is OK with living this way or not. But my free time is too valuable to waste it.

If I have to test a woman like this, she is either the wrong woman or I am not ready for a relationship at all. Immature women love these shit tests. I just can't be bothered.

OTOH, I think it's perfectly reasonable to tell the woman you are with what your limitations are - and then stick to them. While traveling, if she tries to get you to upgrade your hotel or go to a more expensive restaurant than you have defined as your limit - then you have the information you need about her.

[jamesbond]

This woman certainly qualifies as a "gold digger."

[MarcosZeitola]

If you want to be absolutely sure your wife's no golddigger, marry one when you are dirt poor. Or marry her rich, then go broke; if she loves you genuinely she will not leave you. It's the only way to know for sure: your real friends are the ones who stick around through thick or thin, in bad times as well as good. Too many people are opportunistic bastards who care only about money, these days. Men and women both. Selfish assholes, all me-me-me, me myself and I.

[newlifeinphilippines]

If you want to be absolutely sure your wife's no golddigger, marry one when you are dirt poor. Or marry her rich, then go broke; if she loves you genuinely she will not leave you. It's the only way to know for sure: your real friends are the ones who stick around through thick or thin, in bad times as well as good. Too many people are opportunistic bastards who care only about money, these days. Men and women both. Selfish assholes, all me-me-me, me myself and I.

I say who cares I run my life determined by me. Ill get the hottest woman around that money can buy. Im not gonna marry young when im better looking or poor because im worried of some scenario of hooking up with a gold digger. im not gonna cowtow my life and wind up with an inferior looking woman who is my age instead of 20 to 40 years younger OR ugly because im worried she might be only for my money.

[MarcosZeitola]

If you want to be absolutely sure your wife's no golddigger, marry one when you are dirt poor. Or marry her rich, then go broke; if she loves you genuinely she will not leave you. It's the only way to know for sure: your real friends are the ones who stick around through thick or thin, in bad times as well as good. Too many people are opportunistic bastards who care only about money, these days. Men and women both. Selfish assholes, all me-me-me, me myself and I.

I say who cares I run my life determined by me. Ill get the hottest woman around that money can buy. Im not gonna marry young when im better looking or poor because im worried of some scenario of hooking up with a gold digger. im not gonna cowtow my life and wind up with an inferior looking woman who is my age instead of 20 to 40 years younger OR ugly because im worried she might be only for my money.

To be fair, an inferior looking man deserves inferior looking women an a superior looking man deserves superior looking women. It's the law of nature.

[newlifeinphilippines]

If you want to be absolutely sure your wife's no golddigger, marry one when you are dirt poor. Or marry her rich, then go broke; if she loves you genuinely she will not leave you. It's the only way to know for sure: your real friends are the ones who stick around through thick or thin, in bad times as well as good. Too many people are opportunistic bastards who care only about money, these days. Men and women both. Selfish assholes, all me-me-me, me myself and I.

I say who cares I run my life determined by me. Ill get the hottest woman around that money can buy. Im not gonna marry young when im better looking or poor because im worried of some scenario of hooking up with a gold digger. im not gonna cowtow my life and wind up with an inferior looking woman who is my age instead of 20 to 40 years younger OR ugly because im worried she might be only for my money.

To be fair, an inferior looking man deserves inferior looking women an a superior looking man deserves superior looking women. It's the law of nature.

"to be fair" then you say a unfair statement.

Sorry life isn't fair. Im gonna buy a wife that will be hotter than what most of the guys have here when im older because love isn't gonna excitement, a hot body to warm me in the bed WILL. My bargirl was hotter than any wife posted on this board and the sex was amazing. so was milf girl. Nurse girl was a nurse graduate and very hot but i blew her off the first time in person she left crying but she came back a 2nd but it went nowhere cause i had a gf and she was still in love with her foreign bf plus she was a golddiger so i dont think it would have lasted long she was looking for a easy ticket and lots of spending. In hindsight though it really doesn't matter they are all gold diggers for the most part. Now imagine if i was actually looking for a wife or didn't care about her wanting my money id get top notch.

[MarcosZeitola]

Now imagine if i was actually looking for a wife or didn't care about her wanting my money id get top notch.

If she wanted you only for your money, she's not top notch. Top notch is someone with brains and an education as well as looks, your nurse girl would probably qualify. But top notch also indicates a kindness and a genuinely good character. It's a combination of multiple factors other then looks alone. Plenty of men on these forum have "top notch" wives because they are kind, loyal and warm women, attractive looks and personality, funny and engaging. A good woman warms your house, your heart, your belly and your loins. If all she does is give you a boner and an empty wallet, she's not top notch.

[newlifeinphilippines]

Now imagine if i was actually looking for a wife or didn't care about her wanting my money id get top notch.

If she wanted you only for your money, she's not top notch. Top notch is someone with brains and an education as well as looks, your nurse girl would probably qualify. But top notch also indicates a kindness and a genuinely good character. It's a combination of multiple factors other then looks alone. Plenty of men on these forum have "top notch" wives because they are kind, loyal and warm women, attractive looks and personality, funny and engaging. A good woman warms your house, your heart, your belly and your loins. If all she does is give you a boner and an empty wallet, she's not top notch.

i agree with you there i was talking about top notch in the looks. Although im not looking for a independent or career or educated types you can find those in america. I want a submissive passionate girl not a girl who is educated.

I dont think nurse girl would qualify because she was a vacation girlfriend for another foreigner and seemed to be in love with him and was obsessed about wanting to travel alot and was in a hurry to get out of the country. she was looking for the fast life and quick. She actually seemed the worst girl I ever met. Even worse than the bargirl. cause it was all take and no action. I paid for her taxi home and we ate out yet i didn't even get any feeling she gave a damn about me. no chemistry or whatsoever she talked a lot but i didn't feel a connection. Now some guys would say you have to make the first move but i usually give hte girl that option. I was starting to get annoyed and bored of her that i would text my gf during the date. I probably blew it though do the circumstances but i could just tell by her mannerisms and attitude i was gonna have a empty wallet and a girl who wants me to spend a lot on her. She even made some snide comments on that regard "your like a chinese". If she doesn't make any effort at all shes not my type. I like a girl who goes the extra mile to prove herself. off topic though lol

but there always will be something missing in the relationship with these types of girls. But there is negatives to having someone your nto as attrcted too. Bottom line is there is pros and cons to everything. one other conflicting thing is i need a good christian girl well i can't settle with a gold digger cause well she will just be going through the emotions pretending to agree with me on my beliefs to please me. i dont think ill ever be happy unless i find a really hot girl that is good character on top. which is very hard to do when you only have your wallet to offer

[MarcosZeitola]

one other conflicting thing is i need a good christian girl well i can't settle with a gold digger cause well she will just be going through the emotions pretending to agree with me on my beliefs to please me. i dont think ill ever be happy unless i find a really hot girl that is good character on top. which is very hard to do when you only have your wallet to offer

Let's assume you met a girl... she was young, she was gorgeous and she was a good Christian girl. You met her when you are already fifty plus, and willing to settle down. She is marriage minded, she is loyal, not a golddigger... the full package! But, like most good Christian girls, she is family oriented and she wants to have children. What do you do? The type of girl that doesn't want children (a big issue for you, apparently), tends to be the materialistic golddigger type. Selfish at heart, only focused on her own wants and needs. But a homely, good wife... she'll want a family to complete her life.

Some of your dreams and plans are not compatible with one another, I feel, and you should make some concessions if you wish to find true happiness. At least consider it. There's many different types of girls, but in my experience the good ones almost always want children. It's a sign of emotional maturity on her part (and your own), and shows that she is able to care about more then just her own life.

[newlifeinphilippines]

one other conflicting thing is i need a good christian girl well i can't settle with a gold digger cause well she will just be going through the emotions pretending to agree with me on my beliefs to please me. i dont think ill ever be happy unless i find a really hot girl that is good character on top. which is very hard to do when you only have your wallet to offer

Let's assume you met a girl... she was young, she was gorgeous and she was a good Christian girl. You met her when you are already fifty plus, and willing to settle down. She is marriage minded, she is loyal, not a golddigger... the full package! But, like most good Christian girls, she is family oriented and she wants to have children. What do you do? The type of girl that doesn't want children (a big issue for you, apparently), tends to be the materialistic golddigger type. Selfish at heart, only focused on her own wants and needs. But a homely, good wife... she'll want a family to complete her life.

Some of your dreams and plans are not compatible with one another, I feel, and you should make some concessions if you wish to find true happiness. At least consider it. There's many different types of girls, but in my experience the good ones almost always want children. It's a sign of emotional maturity on her part (and your own), and shows that she is able to care about more then just her own life.

i may make concessions maybe when im older and more mature and tired of the rate race but she would have to be ONE HELL of a woman. Shed have to be as good at sex as my bargirl but even hotter than her and of course more genuine. That would be one hell of a tall order cause she was the only girl that fit my sexual standards but she wasn't genuine or good enough or hot enough to be wife.

[publicduende]

Sorry life isn't fair. Im gonna buy a wife that will be hotter than what most of the guys have here when im older because love isn't gonna excitement, a hot body to warm me in the bed WILL. My bargirl was hotter than any wife posted on this board and the sex was amazing. so was milf girl. Nurse girl was a nurse graduate and very hot but i blew her off the first time in person she left crying but she came back a 2nd but it went nowhere cause i had a gf and she was still in love with her foreign bf plus she was a golddiger so i dont think it would have lasted long she was looking for a easy ticket and lots of spending. In hindsight though it really doesn't matter they are all gold diggers for the most part. Now imagine if i was actually looking for a wife or didn't care about her wanting my money id get top notch.

You are trying it the (really, really) hard way, mate. Inflicting upon yourself decades of sexual abstinence and the odds than, at 50, you won't be as filthy rich as you think, or no country in the world will have girls poor and/or gullible enough to fall for your "purchase order"? All for what? To prove us that you can get a hot young woman who will have "amazing" (if Viagra-aided) sex with you and keep her young stud lovers on the side, and perhaps leave or divorce you when she sees a window of opportunity?

Wouldn't it just be a lot easier if you were to drop some of your cynicism and learn what it takes to be loved by a decent woman, and indeed how to find her?

For all the respect I nurture for Mr Zeitola and the amount of intellectual and emotional maturity that led him to be a true, non-whiny "happier abroader", I don't think his experience can't be equated and repeated. All it takes, really, is a honest heart and a resonance with the way of thinking, indeed the way of feeling, of the average Filipino family: simplicity, human warmth, togetherness. Those bamboo huts have lessons to teach us, if only we were willing enough to put our ears out.

[newlifeinphilippines]

Sorry life isn't fair. Im gonna buy a wife that will be hotter than what most of the guys have here when im older because love isn't gonna excitement, a hot body to warm me in the bed WILL. My bargirl was hotter than any wife posted on this board and the sex was amazing. so was milf girl. Nurse girl was a nurse graduate and very hot but i blew her off the first time in person she left crying but she came back a 2nd but it went nowhere cause i had a gf and she was still in love with her foreign bf plus she was a golddiger so i dont think it would have lasted long she was looking for a easy ticket and lots of spending. In hindsight though it really doesn't matter they are all gold diggers for the most part. Now imagine if i was actually looking for a wife or didn't care about her wanting my money id get top notch.

You are trying it the (really, really) hard way, mate. Inflicting upon yourself decades of sexual abstinence and the odds than, at 50, you won't be as filthy rich as you think, or no country in the world will have girls poor and/or gullible enough to fall for your "purchase order"? All for what? To prove us that you can get a hot young woman who will have "amazing" (if Viagra-aided) sex with you and keep her young stud lovers on the side, and perhaps leave or divorce you when she sees a window of opportunity?

Wouldn't it just be a lot easier if you were to drop some of your cynicism and learn what it takes to be loved by a decent woman, and indeed how to find her?

For all the respect I nurture for Mr Zeitola and the amount of intellectual and emotional maturity that led him to be a true, non-whiny "happier abroader", I don't think his experience can't be equated and repeated. All it takes, really, is a honest heart and a resonance with the way of thinking, indeed the way of feeling, of the average Filipino family: simplicity, human warmth, togetherness. Those bamboo huts have lessons to teach us, if only we were willing enough to put our ears out.

Ive gotten this far. And you know what Im not jealous of those who married young i actually pity them. I have freedom and peace and i only have to worry about my finances right now for myself. And i was able to spend months in a foreign country starting at 30 which is most can't do. Pretty good gig.

its not decades of sexual abstinence unless you are a virgin or abstain from any relationship before marriage. I dont see myself doing that either. Your assuming some of us are ready emotionally and financially to settle down also. Im not ready for awhile anyways. Maybe not till 50 but not right now either. So might as well enjoy the benefits of being older when marrying or having a long term relationship via some delayed gratification.


anyways im already getting an itchy finger i hope to be in the saddle traveling in the medium term. Not sure when but definitely not right now. Short vacations are just p4p mode and that gets a bit redudant.

[publicduende]

Ive gotten this far. And you know what Im not jealous of those who married young i actually pity them. I have freedom and peace and i only have to worry about my finances right now for myself. And i was able to spend months in a foreign country starting at 30 which is most can't do. Pretty good gig.

its not decades of sexual abstinence unless you are a virgin or abstain from any relationship before marriage. I dont see myself doing that either. Your assuming some of us are ready emotionally and financially to settle down also. Im not ready for awhile anyways. Maybe not till 50 but not right now either. So might as well enjoy the benefits of being older when marrying or having a long term relationship via some delayed gratification.


anyways im already getting an itchy finger i hope to be in the saddle traveling in the medium term. Not sure when but definitely not right now. Short vacations are just p4p mode and that gets a bit redudant.

Whatever rocks your boat. Whatever "work in progress" you have in mind, I don't think one or two weeks every few months in the Philippines or Thailand will replace that feeling of finding somebody who loves, respects and has sex with you for motives far beyond your wallet.

[S_Parc]

its not decades of sexual abstinence unless you are a virgin or abstain from any relationship before marriage. I dont see myself doing that either. Your assuming some of us are ready emotionally and financially to settle down also. Im not ready for awhile anyways. Maybe not till 50 but not right now either. So might as well enjoy the benefits of being older when marrying or having a long term relationship via some delayed gratification.

Whatever rocks your boat. Whatever "work in progress" you have in mind, I don't think one or two weeks every few months in the Philippines or Thailand will replace that feeling of finding somebody who loves, respects and has sex with you for motives far beyond your wallet.

It's time for me to inject some of the S_Parc cult info... an American has to learn how to fly solo, before he seeks companionship. Now granted, it appears that I'm being a hypocrite, as I have Mel, but realize, that was a complete accident, which was a consequence of my solo flying. She was inspired and thus, we're together.