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An incident from many years ago popped into my head tonight and got me thinking... Has anyone here who has spent a lot of time abroad ever been harassed by the local populace just for being foreign?
What happened to me was, way back in the day when I was with my ex-wife (who was originally from Mexico) visiting some of her famly and friends in the country, we went to a small town in the southern part of the state of Jalisco where her sister was going to secondary school, or junior college, or something like that. Long story short, there was this huge gang of teenage boys in the town, I'm talking like 30 or 40 of them, all walking around in a pack. As soon as they saw me they all began to make this loud "barking" kind of noise at me over and over, also throwing out some profanities in plain English... I had the displeasure of staying the night there and any time I would see some of them they'd start doing it again. Was glad to get out of there, but I never had anything like that happen in any of the other small towns and cities in Mexico, and I had visited quite a few. The people everywhere else were friendly as can be, even in the slums in the outskirts of Guadalajara.
I've never heard of this kind of harassment and I guess part of me was wondering if they were going to get physical. Was the first time I've ever experienced something like this. I'm white, not sure if that matters in Mexico but I was a full on gringo apparently.
Any of you guys experienced harassment abroad? What do you make out of what happened to me... lol.
Just thought this could make for some interesting stories!
Well well well. I guess one white guy now knows what it's like to be an East Asian-descent male outside of a few larger cities on the west coast of the USA or east coast larger cities, and pretty much most places in the Anglosphere or some places in Europe.
Join the club, bro.
manly5000 that's scary ... I would be real intimidated by such a large group I've never experienced anything on such a large scale. The worst racism I ever had was being told by my ex's mother in the UK; 'I really love you but I don't want any brown grandkids'
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Wow, that's messed up Renata. Yeah, the U.K. is a pretty racist place in general even though it's a diverse country--just like America.
Believe it or not but a lot of older generation parents (or grandparents) think this way, but will never utter it in public with others watching. This is all over Anglo-Sphere, including the US/Canada.
One comes to expect that every now and then. I've gotten comments and provocations on occasion, but it does not detract from the wonderful experiences with the majority of people I encounter.
Usually, racism is from people who are on the lower socioeconomic and educational levels. Most of the time, they see "different" people as a threat to their piece of the pie or a threat to their access to women.
All in all, I can tell you that nothing abroad compares to the racism in the USA. While it may be covert now, it is there like in no other country I have visited and I have been to almost 80 countries.
Ah, lone_yakuza...I can always get a laugh from you. You are truly the slightly crazy Asian Crusader all Asian men need.
I am a terrible person.
Can't a white guy just share an experience without it being turned into an issue about another race?
I understand you have had racial troubles, but can't you just save it for another thread and let this guy tell his story in peace?
Usually racism is from people who haven't traveled themselves, and hence have a closed mind.
yeah dude seen some chicks from the U.K. in a local bar.They looked busted.And one of them came to me and asked me a question with this British accent i was like avoid avoid avoid avoid. They would not even talk to the Afro-Brazilian men there just these two white guys from peru.
se eu soubesse o que eu sei hoje, teria mando mulheres americanas para foder-se hÃ¡ muitos anos.que deus abenÃ§oe o brasil!
There was a time that I used to believe this until I'd met folks with advanced degrees, who're basically Nazis or Klansmen at heart. The difference is that they know that they can't express themselves in public, esp in a place like America.
I'm just saying that maybe now he understands how East Asian men feel sometimes when confronted by an angry group of redneck KKK types or whatever, jeering at us, calling us Jap, gook, or chink and saying, "ME AN MY HOMIES GON' GET OUR SHOTGUNS AND SHOOT YOUR CHINKY JAP ASS!"
It's a good learning experience for a white dude who has never been threatened just because of his race. It helps him see it from our perspective. Then maybe people can stop saying that Asian males are just "bitching."
Because if that were the case, OP would also be considered to be bitching.
But I don't think so. He was legitimately being unfairly treated, I can understand that and I agree that it's not cool to treat people that way.
I'm just pointing out this is what happens to many East Asian males in the states or anglosphere.
Having been to a top 10 US university, many of the old money types are racist as f**k and despise and hate East Asians. Particularly those of anglo-saxon or jewish background. It is slightly disturbing to see how they talk down to foreign students, particularly from East Asia. No wonder East Asians at UPenn or Brown or Duke tend to hang with each other in big groups, even those born in the states, especially the males.
East Asian male dating a white female? Maybe like 1/100 couples.
East Asian female dating a white male? Something like 55/100 couples.
Good replies and insight everyone, thanks.
yakuza - It was indeed interesting to see what it's like to be the target of racism. Not in a good way of course but interesting all the same. Not really "complaining" about it tho... just wanted to share a story and get an idea of what I might expect when the time comes to leave the US and relocate to the country of my choosing. If it happens again (and I'm sure it will sooner or later considering I want to live in whatever country I go to) I'll just let it go, unless I have to physically defend myself, wife, or family of course.
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