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That is why I used the term "Usually." But in the case of WASPs and affluent Jewish types, are you sure this is racism or just elitism/classism? Cognitive elites, yuppies, and highly educated Americans don't necessarily love me as a black man. BUT, when they exhibit disdain for me it is less the "you are a lesser race of man" and more "what is a black guy doing here and shall I protect my wallet and girlfriend." You might ask what is the difference, but it is profound. Whiteness is the defining issue with the racists, and elite status is the issue with the others. Whiteness might figure predominately with elites, but it is not the core factor because they often look down on poor whites far more than they do racial minorities.lone_yakuza wrote:This.S_Parc wrote:There was a time that I used to believe this until I'd met folks with advanced degrees, who're basically Nazis or Klansmen at heart. The difference is that they know that they can't express themselves in public, esp in a place like America.Contrarian Expatriate wrote:Usually, racism is from people who are on the lower socioeconomic and educational levels. Most of the time, they see "different" people as a threat to their piece of the pie or a threat to their access to women.
Having been to a top 10 US university, many of the old money types are racist as f**k and despise and hate East Asians. Particularly those of anglo-saxon or jewish background. It is slightly disturbing to see how they talk down to foreign students, particularly from East Asia. No wonder East Asians at UPenn or Brown or Duke tend to hang with each other in big groups, even those born in the states, especially the males.
East Asian male dating a white female? Maybe like 1/100 couples.
East Asian female dating a white male? Something like 55/100 couples.
you should tell him thatAll_That_Is_Man wrote:Actually this past weekend I had the displeasure of being physically assaulted by a Mexican Neo-Nazi skinhead (you read that correctly: a MEXICAN NEO-NAZI SKINHEAD). I refused to fight him (and his three "get out of our country, nigger!" boyfriends), because if I did I would have killed them. Passiveness (and a temporary scar on my pride) is the reason I am not in prison as we speak. A Mexican prison, at that.
I never really liked mexicans.Something with them just never sits well with me.They seem to look at blacks with disdain and think they are better.All_That_Is_Man wrote:Actually this past weekend I had the displeasure of being physically assaulted by a Mexican Neo-Nazi skinhead (you read that correctly: a MEXICAN NEO-NAZI SKINHEAD). I refused to fight him (and his three "get out of our country, nigger!" boyfriends), because if I did I would have killed them. Passiveness (and a temporary scar on my pride) is the reason I am not in prison as we speak. A Mexican prison, at that.
Boy you ain't kiddin... I've discovered this and haven't even moved abroad yet (present company here at HA accepted of course). I recently had the displeasure of stumbling onto a Brazilian expat site where all they did is bitch about Brazil and Brazilians and flame people who talk bad about the laws and women in America. When I go abroad I'm going to avoid other expats like the plague.odbo wrote:There's nothing worse than American expats
LOL which site was it.I post on one sometimes and all i get are negative comments about Brazil.I made a post asking if there where any expats in salvador and one dude responds with "thats the worst city ever" and i am like dude i didn't ask that.I most American expats and i have only met three, and they are usually old farts that are living on a pention talking trying to hand advice to me and haven't even been here a year yet.They complain about wages here saying that you can't make money here but they have not worked here.And i like dude if you can't make money here then why do a see huge traffic jams every day full of cars that are worth about $45.000reais.How do Brazilians immigrate all over the world if you can not make money.Even people in the favelas got flat screens ,internet and cars.manly5000 wrote:Boy you ain't kiddin... I've discovered this and haven't even moved abroad yet (present company here at HA accepted of course). I recently had the displeasure of stumbling onto a Brazilian expat site where all they did is bitch about Brazil and Brazilians and flame people who talk bad about the laws and women in America. When I go abroad I'm going to avoid other expats like the plague.odbo wrote:There's nothing worse than American expats
It was Gringoes. Never in my life have I seen such a sour group of expats. If you believe what they tell ya you couldn't even walk down the street half a block in Brazil without getting attacked, robbed, beaten, stabbed, shot, hung, drawn, and quartered... and your remains held for ransom by those pesky "flash kidnapping mobs". And no Brazilian would care because they're all a bunch of untrustworthy lazy nothings who have no culture and only care about the 4 B's - BBQ, Beaches, Ball, and Bunda.skateboardstephen wrote:LOL which site was it.I post on one sometimes and all i get are negative comments about Brazil.I made a post asking if there where any expats in salvador and one dude responds with "thats the worst city ever" and i am like dude i didn't ask that.I most American expats and i have only met three, and they are usually old farts that are living on a pention talking trying to hand advice to me and haven't even been here a year yet.They complain about wages here saying that you can't make money here but they have not worked here.And i like dude if you can't make money here then why do a see huge traffic jams every day full of cars that are worth about $45.000reais.How do Brazilians immigrate all over the world if you can not make money.Even people in the favelas got flat screens ,internet and cars.manly5000 wrote:Boy you ain't kiddin... I've discovered this and haven't even moved abroad yet (present company here at HA accepted of course). I recently had the displeasure of stumbling onto a Brazilian expat site where all they did is bitch about Brazil and Brazilians and flame people who talk bad about the laws and women in America. When I go abroad I'm going to avoid other expats like the plague.odbo wrote:There's nothing worse than American expats
LOL they are dumb as hell.Brazil is not anymore dangerous (least where i am)than any major city in states you just got to use street smarts and common sence.I would say you are more likely to get hit by a bus here or die in a car crash since the traffic is so horrible.It may have a lot to do with how you carry yourself.every one thinks i am Brazilian because i dress talk and act like them.I stay in a favela so i guess they think i am just another poor Afro-brazilian not worth the time to rob? i don't know.manly5000 wrote:It was Gringoes. Never in my life have I seen such a sour group of expats. If you believe what they tell ya you couldn't even walk down the street half a block in Brazil without getting attacked, robbed, beaten, stabbed, shot, hung, drawn, and quartered... and your remains held for ransom by those pesky "flash kidnapping mobs". And no Brazilian would care because they're all a bunch of untrustworthy lazy nothings who have no culture and only care about the 4 B's - BBQ, Beaches, Ball, and Bunda.skateboardstephen wrote:LOL which site was it.I post on one sometimes and all i get are negative comments about Brazil.I made a post asking if there where any expats in salvador and one dude responds with "thats the worst city ever" and i am like dude i didn't ask that.I most American expats and i have only met three, and they are usually old farts that are living on a pention talking trying to hand advice to me and haven't even been here a year yet.They complain about wages here saying that you can't make money here but they have not worked here.And i like dude if you can't make money here then why do a see huge traffic jams every day full of cars that are worth about $45.000reais.How do Brazilians immigrate all over the world if you can not make money.Even people in the favelas got flat screens ,internet and cars.manly5000 wrote:Boy you ain't kiddin... I've discovered this and haven't even moved abroad yet (present company here at HA accepted of course). I recently had the displeasure of stumbling onto a Brazilian expat site where all they did is bitch about Brazil and Brazilians and flame people who talk bad about the laws and women in America. When I go abroad I'm going to avoid other expats like the plague.odbo wrote:There's nothing worse than American expats
You know, it's funny. Every single time I read about a country being one of the "safer" countries to go to, as soon as I look into it a little more deeply I find people saying the same things about that country as all the other "dangerous" ones. Like Costa Rica for instance. I read how its one of the safest LA countries, yet looking deeper I found all sorts of reports of crime being terrible there, the laws of the government being feministic, etc etc. Same stuff I see about all other countries.skateboardstephen wrote:LOL they are dumb as hell.Brazil is not anymore dangerous (least where i am)than any major city in states you just got to use street smarts and common sence.I would say you are more likely to get hit by a bus here or die in a car crash since the traffic is so horrible.It may have a lot to do with how you carry yourself.every one thinks i am Brazilian because i dress talk and act like them.I stay in a favela so i guess they think i am just another poor Afro-brazilian not worth the time to rob? i don't know.manly5000 wrote:It was Gringoes. Never in my life have I seen such a sour group of expats. If you believe what they tell ya you couldn't even walk down the street half a block in Brazil without getting attacked, robbed, beaten, stabbed, shot, hung, drawn, and quartered... and your remains held for ransom by those pesky "flash kidnapping mobs". And no Brazilian would care because they're all a bunch of untrustworthy lazy nothings who have no culture and only care about the 4 B's - BBQ, Beaches, Ball, and Bunda.skateboardstephen wrote:LOL which site was it.I post on one sometimes and all i get are negative comments about Brazil.I made a post asking if there where any expats in salvador and one dude responds with "thats the worst city ever" and i am like dude i didn't ask that.I most American expats and i have only met three, and they are usually old farts that are living on a pention talking trying to hand advice to me and haven't even been here a year yet.They complain about wages here saying that you can't make money here but they have not worked here.And i like dude if you can't make money here then why do a see huge traffic jams every day full of cars that are worth about $45.000reais.How do Brazilians immigrate all over the world if you can not make money.Even people in the favelas got flat screens ,internet and cars.manly5000 wrote:Boy you ain't kiddin... I've discovered this and haven't even moved abroad yet (present company here at HA accepted of course). I recently had the displeasure of stumbling onto a Brazilian expat site where all they did is bitch about Brazil and Brazilians and flame people who talk bad about the laws and women in America. When I go abroad I'm going to avoid other expats like the plague.odbo wrote:There's nothing worse than American expats
I'm going to concur with yakuza on this one. And I'm not going to make is a blanket elite WASPy (or elite Jewish) thing related to Ivy League colleges, but a broader category of white... including eastern, central, and Mediterranean Europe. I'd seen this first hand myself, where one set of white acquaintances did not want to hang out with my more mixed crowd of Asians. And these were not hillbillies but were from educated families, some middle, some upper classes.lone_yakuza wrote:It was definitely racism. Many of the Asians were sons or daughters of Chinese generals or politicians, rolling in money. They drove nicer cars than the white WASP old moneys sometimes. I also noticed high class blacks hanging in their own group. Basically the campus would be divided into the white group, black group, and East Asian group, and then a subgroup of Indians/Pakistani/Middle Easterners.
True.lone_yakuza wrote:This.S_Parc wrote:There was a time that I used to believe this until I'd met folks with advanced degrees, who're basically Nazis or Klansmen at heart. The difference is that they know that they can't express themselves in public, esp in a place like America.Contrarian Expatriate wrote:Usually, racism is from people who are on the lower socioeconomic and educational levels. Most of the time, they see "different" people as a threat to their piece of the pie or a threat to their access to women.
Having been to a top 10 US university, many of the old money types are racist as f**k and despise and hate East Asians. Particularly those of anglo-saxon or jewish background. It is slightly disturbing to see how they talk down to foreign students, particularly from East Asia. No wonder East Asians at UPenn or Brown or Duke tend to hang with each other in big groups, even those born in the states, especially the males.
East Asian male dating a white female? Maybe like 1/100 couples.
East Asian female dating a white male? Something like 55/100 couples.