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Look how different they were, AW for 60s and 70s look like Russian women these days, the way they dance,dress, body type..

faces look natural, theres no anger , no fake forced smile, duck mouth face, I bet rejections didnt feel so painful back then...our fathers are lucky bastards and I dont think they realise how much women changed since then

even not good looking women is still normal and desirable

compare them to girls in niteclubs these days

men i love this song !

Banano wrote:Look how different they were, AW for 60s and 70s look like Russian women these days, the way they dance,dress, body type..

So do you think Russian women in 50 years will be like American women today? I haven't been to Russia, but I am pretty sure Chinese women in 50 years will be like American women today.

Okay, I've seen this false idea propagated enough times in the forum I'll start speaking out. Evolution is not unilinear. This is true in biology, but also in cultural evolution. Marxists think there is a linear evolution and that we have entered Late-Stage Capitalism. They are a bunch of morons. Developing countries just need new institutions to preserve traditional values in spite of economic advances. There is no reason their fate is predestined to become like America's. Besides, in the next several centuries with the growth of Globalization, I fully expect new mutations in political order. Has anyone here stopped to think just how remarkable it is that relatively common men such as ourselves even have it in our ability to traverse the globe? The economy is global and cultural trends are spreading world wide when as little as 100 years ago they would be confined to their countries of origin. Political organization will have to adapt to this, one way or another. I don't know how it will adapt; like I said, evolution is not unilinear. Likely there will be several alternatives with one eventually winning out. In the shift from Empire, Transnational Church Authority, and Feudalism into the modern Sovereign State organization, there were at the time (about 11th to 17th Centuries) several alternatives. Trade guilds, city states, city leagues, etc. So the fate of the third world is not sealed. It is not inevitable that the intellectual class embrace Nihilism; for several centuries of history they did not. In fact, if I could contribute some manifesto to argue for new institutions for traditional values before I die, I will know I have accomplished something great.

Something to remember: Capitalism requires constant innovation. It is decidedly anti-conservative. We just need to know when to utilize certain values and when not to. The Socialists have it completely backwards in this respect; they promote an economic theory reminiscent of the savagery of pre-modern civilization while decimating the family with radical new ideas. It is family that should remain traditional and economics that should be innovative, not the other way around.

abcdavid01 wrote:Evolution is not unilinear. This is true in biology, but also in cultural evolution.

Evolution may be nonlinear, but it changes direction slowly. This means that on a short time scale, like 50 years, a linear approximation is pretty good.

Feminism is here to stay, just look at the trend over the last 50 years, every new decade has been worse than previous one,
Only hope is that 3rd world countries remain 3rd world countries, Thailand is changing rapidly,if current trend continues at this rate give it 10-15 years more and p4p will cost the same as in germany, picking up regular girls will be as easy or as hard as enywhere else in western world

look at Czech republic for example, 20 years ago it was p***y paradise from what i heard, now its just like another western country..things are getting worse for men and better for women

I think we lost this war against women, we are defeated and we acting like defeated, travelling 1000s of miles to seduce some poor girl from ghetto, spendin 1000s of $$ on PUA material and you wonder why women think men are losers??

Well that just means the need for new institutions is all the more urgent. I mean, the time scale for human development has always been shrinking. I don't think this is merely a matter of perception either. It's not just our ignorance of conditions several millenniums ago. Perhaps it can be explained as exponential growth? Say, if certain events occur like the development of the printing press or the colonization of the New World, that suddenly advances the human race in a very short time period and shrinks the time frame for successive developments. This is compared to the thousands of years between the stone age and the bronze age. There are still primitive tribes in the world. Some developments lead to exponential growth, but others do not. We have entered an age of exponential growth in communications and the spread of culture, but (at least in the West) what I believe is a stagnation in other scientific developments. So perhaps we just have to adapt to this reality. If the West and its institutions declines due to lack of scientific development, economic collapse, etc. then its influence in culture will likely follow. So even if the transmission of culture worldwide remains rapid, if the driver of those contributions is no longer The West then it is possible for other societies to avoid its fate.

abcdavid01 wrote:Well that just means the need for new institutions is all the more urgent. I mean, the time scale for human development has always been shrinking. I don't think this is merely a matter of perception either. It's not just our ignorance of conditions several millenniums ago. Perhaps it can be explained as exponential growth? Say, if certain events occur like the development of the printing press or the colonization of the New World, that suddenly advances the human race in a very short time period and shrinks the time frame for successive developments. This is compared to the thousands of years between the stone age and the bronze age. There are still primitive tribes in the world. Some developments lead to exponential growth, but others do not. We have entered an age of exponential growth in communications and the spread of culture, but (at least in the West) what I believe is a stagnation in other scientific developments. So perhaps we just have to adapt to this reality. If the West and its institutions declines due to lack of scientific development, economic collapse, etc. then its influence in culture will likely follow. So even if the transmission of culture worldwide remains rapid, if the driver of those contributions is no longer The West then it is possible for other societies to avoid its fate.

So in other words we can't predict the future of feminism?

You mean the natural look on Russian women like these?

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Banano wrote:I think we lost this war against women, we are defeated and we acting like defeated, travelling 1000s of miles to seduce some poor girl from ghetto, spending 1000s of $$ on PUA material and you wonder why women think men are losers??

This is also my prediction and I believe the end result will be robotic sex companion Fem-bots viewtopic.php?t=10078

fschmidt wrote:

Banano wrote:Look how different they were, AW for 60s and 70s look like Russian women these days, the way they dance,dress, body type..

So do you think Russian women in 50 years will be like American women today? I haven't been to Russia, but I am pretty sure Chinese women in 50 years will be like American women today.

I expect in 50 years young American women will be like young Russian women are today.
They are, of course, 30+ years from even being born.

Banano wrote:I think we lost this war against women, we are defeated and we acting like defeated, travelling 1000s of miles to seduce some poor girl from ghetto, spendin 1000s of $$ on PUA material and you wonder why women think men are losers??

They'll say you're a loser (or whatever it takes) to get you to conform to what they want you to do.
I don't even worry about that. If you're living a good life in some other part of the world, why would you care what some stateside landwhale thinks?

I'd like to believe that as the West collapses and dies a horrible, flaming death due to greed, overconsumption, immorality, and everything else that has transformed us into the shitpile we now are, the "values" of the West will also die the same horrible, flaming death.

We'll just have to see what happens.

Teal Lantern wrote:

Banano wrote:I think we lost this war against women, we are defeated and we acting like defeated, travelling 1000s of miles to seduce some poor girl from ghetto, spendin 1000s of $$ on PUA material and you wonder why women think men are losers??

They'll say you're a loser (or whatever it takes) to get you to conform to what they want you to do.
I don't even worry about that. If you're living a good life in some other part of the world, why would you care what some stateside landwhale thinks?

I think the idea here is that in the future, the world will be a federated Femi-Nazi zone where all women will attempt to peg men, as losers or what have you, to get them to conform and behave to their design.

Call it the post-internet Femi-Nazi global broadcast channel where you'll have multi-timezone fireside chats with Melissa Etheridge & Hillary Clinton, telling gals to wear strap-on dildos and pleasure each other, while stealing money from beta males.

How did we go from those women in that music video in 1969, to the modern day woman pictured below?

jamesbond wrote:How did we go from those women in that music video in 1969, to the modern day woman pictured below?

One word - Manginas.