Join John Adams, world renowned Intl Matchmaker, Monday nights 8:30 EST for Live Webcasts!
And check out Five Reasons why you should attend a FREE AFA Seminar! See locations and dates here.
View Active Topics View Your Posts Latest 100 Topics FAQ Topics Mobile Friendly Theme
Discuss and talk about any general topic.
Serious answers please.
I'm talking about where they go, what they do, what jobs they're likely to have, where they congregate, what associations they're members of, etc etc.
I want to know where I can hang out.
In other words, not in the United States!
Seriously though, you could try singles church groups and maybe some community activities and meetup.com. Voluntar work might work as well.
"When I think about the idea of getting involved with an American woman, I don't know if I should laugh .............. or vomit!"
"Trying to meet women in America is like trying to decipher Egyptian hieroglyphics."
I tried volunteering in a church and a charity shop but I didn't see anything much there. Meetup is lame, there are loads of groups but when you look closely a lot of them don't meet up very often, and I'm not aware of any church singles groups or anything like that.
A while back I looked into the Women's Institute (in the UK) to see what it was all about, but that didn't go anywhere. I would have thought there would be women's clubs and associations for ladies to learn stuff like cooking. I live in London, and everything is lame.
I just want to be in an environment where there are many females learning or talking about things pertaining to being a proper woman.
One thing that came to mind was finishing / charm schools. But I can't picture myself hanging around one of them.
If you use the words cooperative and agreeable, you can find a lot of them. Girls like this tend to recognize a man who is a good bet for their trust. So in some places, they are invisible or not, depending on who you are as a man. At any rate, it is mostly happening away from the USA, and even there, in pockets. Hard to find...or not...depending....
I know more girls like this than there are suitable men to have them...
Johnny, the type of woman you are seeking does not exist in the UK, you are wasting time and energy in looking for something that is simply not there.
You would be better looking for an Eastern European woman as your chances of finding a traditional / feminine woman are much better.
Well how about this, Robinhood. How about a female from a country where the culture naturally raises proper woen, but who has recently moved to the UK. When a person's upbringing is strong, and it's really drilled into them, I don't see a problem (although I bet some here do).
Does anyone here really think that western ideas are all-powerful and that they always override any other way of life?
But apart from that I have to say that I'm not of the opinion that a proper woman can't be found here. Maybe it's a case of having to be very careful where one looks. I know, I know that western culture is strong, but come on, let's give some credit to other ways. Are we really saying on this forum that silly western ideas win every time? Just because it's the most visible it doesn't mean that there aren't decent females here and there quietly being decent.
The internet is great and all that but you have to be careful not to get too sucked into "movements" and groupthink. I'm an outcast wherever I go, and that's a very good sign as far as I'm concerned. For example...
I'm not 100% PUA because there's way too much emphasis on being superman, and no emphasis on having standards or picking the right women to begin with, and if it goes wrong it's always the guy's fault and women are infallible and there's always a dark, mysterious reason for stupid behaviour that needs to be accepted and figured out and only a real man can do it. Bollocks.
I'm, not 100% MGTOW because they've gone too far. They make a lot of good points and it's really important to take note of the perils that are out there, but they go too far and it's extremely unhealthy.
And I'm not 100% into this whole dating abroad thing. And this is coming from someone who was born in Spain and came here when I was 2 years old and I've noticed the coldness in people all my life and I hate it. Yet, to my credit, if I say so myself, I've remained balanced, and I try to be discerning. There are decent females everywhere, you just have to get off your ass, not assume that every female is so dumb as to fall for the prevalent culture and ideas, and find a source of females that are most likely to be normal and good and ok people.
And that's what I'm trying to do. PUA tells me to do this and that and be this and that, MGTOW says to forget all of them, and the idea around here is that only foreign women are capable of being decent. I think that this site should be more about finding decent women everywhere (as well as pointing out which countries are best, and the pros and cons of all of them), with an emphasis on foreign females. And also, let's not be naive here. Don't assume that you can be lazy and have no game at all whatsoever. You have to have standards for your own ability to attract as well as that of others.
So come on, as slim as the pickings are here in the UK, what sorts of places do decent women go to? Not all of us can go abroad, and not all of us are willing to fly around the world and peek at another country like it's just a busride around the corner or something.
This question is aimed at those who agree with me that decent UK women can be found (however hard).
On the contrary, brothels are ideal places to find submissive/traditional women; honest women who understand men's urges and needs. Brothel women can be more realistic in their nature of satisfying men better than any other women in North American or western countries. Of course these women aren't wife material though, considering their multiple partners they've had.
"Manginas grovel. Men travel." - me (04/17/2012)
"I used to be one of those men who believed that men are better than women at everything. Then I stood corrected!
Women are better than men at... getting fat." - me (02/24/2013)
Black women suck at life.
Definitely not here that's for sure. There really isn't a specific place. Why even bother with American women though right? Just not worth the search lol
Private Investment Club
3%-5% a month average returns. No trading involved, all collateral based with low risk. PM for details.
Private Jet Flights
PM for details.
You won't find them anywhere in America because THERE ARE NONE. Practically every single damn bitch in America is a f***ing feminist c**t. Some try to hide it, but they have been so deeply programmed by the feminist media and TV shows, that it would be impossible for them to ever change.
Just BOYCOTT AMERICAN WOMEN!
Hmm Johnny I beg to disagree.
London and the UK still have pockets of good foreign women who have to work very hard and don't have time to entertain "westernising" activities like spending hours gossiping about men or getting drunk and behaving like slappers in pubs and clubs. Last time I checked, British men were still fighting nails and teeth to find and grab every young woman from Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine, Israel, China, Vietnam or the few Latin Americans, regardless of looks and even regardless of whether they were here legally or illegally. I can imagine many of them have left the UK and the intake is now a lot smaller due to the recession, yet I guess it's still possible to find nice, traditional and hard working girls who know what family values and sacrifice is. As I said, British men are anything but stupid and such specimen get quickly snapped up.
I used to live in Kilburn and one of the local bakeries had two cuties working there, one from Poland and one from Ukraine, both in their late twenties and both still single. I remember that quite well because the shop owner, a funny if not raunchy Tunisian, was constantly joking about trying to sell them as "special cakes" to deserving customers.
Not all is lost. Places like London and the UK in general are still a relative bliss due to the constant flow of migrants from countries where women are still women. And this is not to mention young women from middle class backgrounds who come over here to study English, or to study at university. This latter category including lots of Asians.
Last but not least, Kilburn is also home to a sizeable Filipino population. Lots of those girls are good material, methinks.
Well I live in south east London. Tell me more. Tell me everything you know. You see I don't believe that all is lost, and as you say the good ones do get snapped up. That makes sense.
Another thing that just occurred to me. These girls have parents. Where does the dad or the mum of a decent woman hang out and socialise? What jobs do they tend to have? Maybe if I knew, I could chat to them and try and get them to introduce me to their daughters.
I want their daughters now.
What I want to establish is a pool of women that I can draw from. That way I don't have to rely on too much luck. And if one doesn't work out, there are more in the same pool.
Not all of us are willing or able to go abroad just to have a look around. So let's see if we can establish places where the few good UK (or US, or wherever others here may be) females are. Sure it will be less to pick from, but something is better than nothing. And I don't want to hear from anyone saying forget about it.
Well you're getting somewhere...meet her parents and get her while she's still fresh off the boat.
Think about it...submissive women don't leave their countries for money or career. Those are the feminist "independent" skanks. Also, submissive women don't stay single for long, they treasure long term relationships.
Now if you're talking about women who follow their parents well what age group are you looking for ? Women in their late 20s don't do that. Submissive women in their late 20s ? There is no such thing...single women in their late 20s are damaged goods, their youth was wasted on playing games. It's a risky proposition to hook up with such a specimen, you might get burned. Young teenagers are jailbait so no luck there either.
I understand your optimism but I'm afraid you're a bit naive (maybe a bit more). There are no "secret" avenues. Most immigrant women become as bad as the locals because everyone tries to fit in...and how do you fit into a feminazi society ? Well you become a feminazi.
Also, most of this planet grows up on Western television. Those values are imprinted in their heads from an young age. Only family, culture and tradition holds them back from adopting them fully.