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Is it legal to own automatic weapons in US? (ak, ar15, UZI)

Postby Banano » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:40 am

Any US state which allows possesion of automatic weapons..?
Watched youtube videos where civilians fire machine guns such as m60 and mg42,
do you need to obtain special licence to have those babies or?

In australia sling shot is illegal and you need licence for air rifle, go through medical/criminal background checks, have credible references, be member of shooting club..pain in the ass
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Re: Is it legal to own automatic weapon in US(ak,ar15,UZI)?

Postby Cornfed » Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:07 am

Banano wrote:Any US state which allows possesion of automatic weapons..?

No. Obviously anything can be legal anywhere with the appropriate paperwork. However, automatic weapons have been federally regulated since the 30s, so you would require a federal class II license and state and local permits.
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Postby Banano » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:59 am

'Fully automatic weapons -- guns that fire continuously when the trigger is held down -- are legal to possess in the United States but are tightly regulated.'





guns should be banned imo, country dont need 300 mil guns in a state of peace, I understand history of US and their obsession with guns but knowing how many wackos are in US, frustrated jobless people, young guys who cant get any women, niggaz tht dont fit in..list goes on and on


most poeple are sane and responsible but you only need a few mentaly sick people and you have tragedy,
i dont even know if anyone succesfully protected themselves when attacked, attacker choses target,time and place, have advantage of firing 1st...
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Postby leavingusa » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:21 am

Banano wrote:'Fully automatic weapons -- guns that fire continuously when the trigger is held down -- are legal to possess in the United States but are tightly regulated.'





guns should be banned imo, country dont need 300 mil guns in a state of peace, I understand history of US and their obsession with guns but knowing how many wackos are in US, frustrated jobless people, young guys who cant get any women, niggaz tht dont fit in..list goes on and on


most poeple are sane and responsible but you only need a few mentaly sick people and you have tragedy,
i dont even know if anyone succesfully protected themselves when attacked, attacker choses target,time and place, have advantage of firing 1st...


We have weapons to defend ourselves against the government. That was the intention of the founders, for every man to have a military weapon. Everyone owns an automatic weapon in Switzerland, it's fine.

And this was not a tragedy, 20 people dead does not make a tragedy. 20 people die every day of other things. Frankly I don't think people should own cars because it's too dangerous, way more so than guns.

Guns saved way more than 20 people's lives this year from criminals in America.

We are not in a state of peace, our government is out of control. This kid was a product of the government run public school system and pharmaceutical industry.

Mexico has great gun control, how is that working out?
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Re: Is it legal to own automatic weapon in US(ak,ar15,UZI)?

Postby leavingusa » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:26 am

Cornfed wrote:
Banano wrote:Any US state which allows possesion of automatic weapons..?

No. Obviously anything can be legal anywhere with the appropriate paperwork. However, automatic weapons have been federally regulated since the 30s, so you would require a federal class II license and state and local permits.


Effectively outlawed for most people since a machine gun has to be registered prior to 1986 so a crappy AK will run in the 5 figures.
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Postby Banano » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:12 am

leavingusa wrote:
Banano wrote:'Fully automatic weapons -- guns that fire continuously when the trigger is held down -- are legal to possess in the United States but are tightly regulated.'





guns should be banned imo, country dont need 300 mil guns in a state of peace, I understand history of US and their obsession with guns but knowing how many wackos are in US, frustrated jobless people, young guys who cant get any women, niggaz tht dont fit in..list goes on and on


most poeple are sane and responsible but you only need a few mentaly sick people and you have tragedy,
i dont even know if anyone succesfully protected themselves when attacked, attacker choses target,time and place, have advantage of firing 1st...


We have weapons to defend ourselves against the government. That was the intention of the founders, for every man to have a military weapon. Everyone owns an automatic weapon in Switzerland, it's fine.

And this was not a tragedy, 20 people dead does not make a tragedy. 20 people die every day of other things. Frankly I don't think people should own cars because it's too dangerous, way more so than guns.

Guns saved way more than 20 people's lives this year from criminals in America.

We are not in a state of peace, our government is out of control. This kid was a product of the government run public school system and pharmaceutical industry.

Mexico has great gun control, how is that working out?



Government will never attack you and if they do do you think you ll be able to defend your home with semi auto ak47 and a few shotguns?
It made sense 200-300 years ago when Government had same weapons (rifles/revolvers) as civilians had, now government have nukes, fighterjets,appachies,tanks,balistic missles,all sorts of rocket launchers......in another words you have no chance..

Why would gov wanna kill you? I shows how paranoid people are, only american will say how he needs guns to protect him from his own government, he prbbly voted for.


Why didnt you(american ppl) fight US Government when they allowed creation of Feds in 1913?Founding fathers were so against central bank.When they bailed out wall street criminals with your own money?...american lost everything founding fathers fought for....you send your people to fight jewish wars, die for them while they loot your country and screw best chicks with their lil dirty dix

Government is screwing you over anytime they chose and what do you do with all these rifles..nothing, absolutely nothin..they will never literally knock on your door to get rid of you..from their perspective you are more valuable living sheep who pays off huge debts


americans are just bunch of pussies who will never do anything to defend their freedom...but will say im free american bc i have arsenal in my basement ; while jews run their country from hollywood to wallstreet
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Postby xiongmao » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:04 pm

What use is an AK-47 when your government has the MOAB 20,000lb bomb it just chucks at you out the back of a C-130?

I don't see what banning guns will do anyway. Japan has crazy guys but they use knives instead of guns. Guns are hard to get hold of here in the UK, but instead we have a major knife problem.

The best way to solve this is for society to stop making social outcasts of people who look or think differently. As a marginal outcast myself I've been on the receiving end of stuff that makes me rage.

Count on politicians to not see the wood from the trees. I guess they'll have to lock up the entire readership of 4chan or something.
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Postby Banano » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:54 pm

do as Australia has done 15 years ago, ban it and peace will return to your streets.
Underworld Criminal gangs will always have access to guns no matter how strict law is, criminals kill other crims, but it will prevent these mass shootings by wackos like adam lanca and many others,
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In australia we never had mass kilings since '96, criminals kill ea every now and then but ordinary joe never gets hurt or lil kids for that matter, aust gov banned everything, sling shots, knives, battons, baseball bats, knuckledusters...

In Oz Illegal posession of firearm is up to 14 years in jail, think about it.

'One piece of this puzzle is the national rate of firearm-related murders, which is charted above. The United States has by far the highest per capita rate of all developed countries. According to data compiled by the United Nations, the United States has four times as many gun-related homicides per capita as do Turkey and Switzerland, which are tied for third. The U.S. gun murder rate is about 20 times the average for all other countries on this chart. That means that Americans are 20 times as likely to be killed by a gun than is someone from another developed country.'

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wor ... d-country/


What surprises me with americans is that they are surprised by this event,

sell your AKs, buy ticket to PH n bang some hoes..its therapeutic
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Postby Jester » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:40 pm

xiongmao wrote:What use is an AK-47 when your government has the MOAB 20,000lb bomb it just chucks at you out the back of a C-130?



True, one bomb could ruin your day.

OTOH, the C-130 pilot does still has to land the plane sometime, visit his family, take out the trash sometime, doesn't he?

Should be an interesting few decades, if the bad guys keep on.
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Postby Jester » Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:50 pm

The presence of armed citizens is already a factor in U.S. politics, and the bad guys are trying to deal with it.

Martial law would have already been rolled out otherwise.

Rank-and-file military are average Americans, they read the internet, and they do know the mood of the people.

If the Army regulars stay in their barracks, or avoid action, during a martial law attempt, then all the NWO will have on the ground is DHS cowards, some special forces and mercenaries. The Marines may serve them for a while, but that will change.

We don't have to outgun the whole U.S. military, just the active bad guys. And when those bad guys are all dead, the trouble will be over.
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Postby Dark_Sol » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 am

That chart about the US having a high rate of gun violence by the UN is false, There is a site where a guy did the math and it never added up. They pretty much made it up to make the US in the top 10 most dangerous countries with guns. I am trying to find that article.

As for the government having tanks and crap. Look at Iraq and Afghanistan. Now imagine America, where I think about 1-3% population is veterans and 10% of them was line units. And I can say, that all the guys I know, don't like the government. I think people who makes the argument about, what can you do with an AK. It's easy, I keep on upgrading from the enemy, where is it in the rules that I can't use the weapons of dead enemies? Reminds me when I left Thailand in 05, that was when that incident with the Yellow or red shirts(can't remember which one.). They had no weapons, but was able to get in the base and acquire weapons.

Anyways, wasn't the percentage of hot burglaries in the UK and Australia increased about 80% within the first year? There's an interview with criminals in prison about what they fear when robbing, they said it was an armed person. They said they can get a weapon easily, even if they banned firearms. The answer and I agree with xiongmao, is to stop this crap from society. I feel feminism and other bullcrap is the root of the problem, but society doesn't want to admit it.

I talk about what was wrong with the guy to some people. They just change the subject or act like they didn't hear it. I mean, come on, all these acts are being done by male, 20-30, alone and different from what society thinks as normal. Anyone with a brain can connect the dots.
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Postby leavingusa » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:48 am

Banano wrote:
leavingusa wrote:
Banano wrote:'Fully automatic weapons -- guns that fire continuously when the trigger is held down -- are legal to possess in the United States but are tightly regulated.'





guns should be banned imo, country dont need 300 mil guns in a state of peace, I understand history of US and their obsession with guns but knowing how many wackos are in US, frustrated jobless people, young guys who cant get any women, niggaz tht dont fit in..list goes on and on


most poeple are sane and responsible but you only need a few mentaly sick people and you have tragedy,
i dont even know if anyone succesfully protected themselves when attacked, attacker choses target,time and place, have advantage of firing 1st...


We have weapons to defend ourselves against the government. That was the intention of the founders, for every man to have a military weapon. Everyone owns an automatic weapon in Switzerland, it's fine.

And this was not a tragedy, 20 people dead does not make a tragedy. 20 people die every day of other things. Frankly I don't think people should own cars because it's too dangerous, way more so than guns.

Guns saved way more than 20 people's lives this year from criminals in America.

We are not in a state of peace, our government is out of control. This kid was a product of the government run public school system and pharmaceutical industry.

Mexico has great gun control, how is that working out?



Government will never attack you and if they do do you think you ll be able to defend your home with semi auto ak47 and a few shotguns?

It made sense 200-300 years ago when Government had same weapons (rifles/revolvers) as civilians had, now government have nukes, fighterjets,appachies,tanks,balistic missles,all sorts of rocket launchers......in another words you have no chance..

Why would gov wanna kill you? I shows how paranoid people are, only american will say how he needs guns to protect him from his own government, he prbbly voted for.


Why didnt you(american ppl) fight US Government when they allowed creation of Feds in 1913?Founding fathers were so against central bank.When they bailed out wall street criminals with your own money?...american lost everything founding fathers fought for....you send your people to fight jewish wars, die for them while they loot your country and screw best chicks with their lil dirty dix

Government is screwing you over anytime they chose and what do you do with all these rifles..nothing, absolutely nothin..they will never literally knock on your door to get rid of you..from their perspective you are more valuable living sheep who pays off huge debts


americans are just bunch of pussies who will never do anything to defend their freedom...but will say im free american bc i have arsenal in my basement ; while jews run their country from hollywood to wallstreet


Defend your home? No, but plenty of people have done just that against trained teams and they run like little girls once they take a few. It's only because the homeowner voluntarily surrenders and the neighbors don't get involved that it doesn't become a massacre.

I already explained to you how that works, as others have explained one weapon gets better weapons. There are plenty of modern of examples how that has worked.

I love how you say people shouldn't even have the chance to fight because they can't win, you say people are too weak to win so they should just accept slavery. Just goes to show how deranged you are.

The reason for the 2nd Amendment is BECAUSE WE LOST EVERYTHING THE FOUNDING FATHERS STOOD FOR. That was the remedy.
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