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Do you think David Icke is a charlatan?

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Postby ben dover » Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:38 am

I recall reading somewhere in one of Icke's manifestos that the reptilian thing was merely a metaphor for the so-called jewish overlords/illuminati. He doesn't really believe it. Who cares? Anybody who believes any of that shit has never done any of their own research on the subject. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Icke's brand of conspiracy theorists are made up of people who refuse to take responsibility for their own actions - 60%; morons who'll believe any shit they read on the internet - 20%; and mental defectives - 20% and/or a montage of all 3. Wake up fruitloops! People are not that smart or organised or forward thinking.
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Postby Maker55 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:49 pm

Renata wrote:I don't believe everything he says but I like his perspective. A lot of what he says is like de ja vu since I grew up with hindu relatives. Hindu philosophy explains exactly the same. That our material exsistence is an ilussion; the word they use is 'Maya'. We have a consiousness/Atma & our bodies are just vechicles that we move around in, like a car or a truck & is changed over & over due to reincarnation. Why do we say my finger or my hand? The same way we say my car. It's like we treat our body as a possession just like any other material thing.


Interesting.

According to Einstein's E=MC2, all matter is really energy and is not really solid.


Our subconscious minds are connected to the unlimited cosmic energy flowing around in the universe.

Quantum physics has proved this.
You're where you're at in life because of your thoughts.

What you think about the most is what you will eventually manifest in your life.
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Postby lavezzi » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:26 pm

Renata wrote:I don't believe everything he says but I like his perspective. A lot of what he says is like de ja vu since I grew up with hindu relatives. Hindu philosophy explains exactly the same. That our material exsistence is an ilussion; the word they use is 'Maya'. We have a consiousness/Atma & our bodies are just vechicles that we move around in, like a car or a truck & is changed over & over due to reincarnation. Why do we say my finger or my hand? The same way we say my car. It's like we treat our body as a possession just like any other material thing.


You're correct in what you're saying, only there is no "I", "you" or "we". Our identities are mere social conventions. We exist as separate selves only theoretically, not in actuality. We think our bodies exist as a single unit which we identify as "I" and everything else as "not I", but this is merely a relative point of observation. There is no real significance about our apparent separateness outside of thought. Thought creates the illusion of a knower and a known, and from this false assumption do many hindrances prevail.

With this being the case, I don't see any potential for the existence of a "soul". Even if our consciousness does in fact continue after death, our memories from the lives we're living now are inarguably going to be lost forever. This makes the way people are living seem completely insane. Their clinging is full on delusional. Always be aware in your day to day life that you and everyone else will soon be dead, this way you can live fully in the moment without thinking you have to "get" or "achieve" anything.
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Postby lone_yakuza » Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:34 pm

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Postby Array9 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:24 pm

Cyrus wrote:I don't think he's a charlatan, I Just think he's nuts. It just so happens being nuts made him a lot of money.

In other words, he believes what he poops out of his mouth.

The conspiracy subculture will believe almost anything anyone tells them so long as it's filled with a lot of "THEY don't want you to know this BUT..." type talk.

But 90% of it's just made up. Over-active imaginations. Same with Alex Jones.


I don't know a lot about David Icke but to tarnish Alex Jones is unfair. Alex has his flaws like all of us but he has been telling the truth for YEARS. I do think that he controlled to an extent and can't touch certain topics but he has been SPOT ON on the following:

GMO foods/Monsanto
TSA
Flouride and lead in your drinking water
Aspartame
High Fructose Corn Syrup(studies link it to mercury poisoning) in many products such as bread, soda, cookies.. etc
U.S. government demonizing military veterans (do the research)
U.S. government planning to restrict and ultimately take away guns from the citizens(It is beginning to happen now)
Bilderberg group


What is Alex Jones making up?
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Postby MrPeabody » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:31 pm

Before conspiracy theory was propelled into a small industry at mega warp speed, thanks to the Internet, people use to talk about the power of Institutions. Institutions assume a life of their own and as soon as they are created their primary mission is self perpetuation. Also, there use to be talk about “group thinkâ€￾ and the “Eastern establishmentâ€￾. I think these are better explanations of how the world is being controlled. Consult any economics book to find out how hard it is to even maintain a cartel. Alex Jones is the main generator of the government did 9/11 claim. Even Noam Chomsky has rejected this theory, and Chomsky has been around a lot longer than Jones, has far more credibility, and went to jail protesting the Vietnam War. Of course, then the CTs can immediately accuse Chomsky of being “controlled oppositionâ€￾ according to their warped terminology. Then others defend Icke for lying about reptiles because it is a “metaphorâ€￾. Sorry, but he presents it as literal and once someone lies to me they don’t get a second chance. Is anyone interested in the truth anymore? Or are people just drowning in fantasy and entertainment?
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Postby Banano » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:02 pm

What is Alex Jones making up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwURLwd8pEA

conspiracy theorists are there to make money, people love conspiracies for some reason, makes world more exciting place to live
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