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Postby colibri » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:28 am

ChosenTraveler wrote:
colibri wrote:Nope.

Sooo you want a decent girl (wife material) but as an eternal gf that can do all the wife role and eventually will raise your kids? ,


And if shes wife material why would she choose you over a good man who want to marry her ?

this is sad :? not even good girls can expect marry these days


What you have to understand about the modern American male is that he's had to readjust his mind to fit present relationship conditions, and yes, that means, accepting the belief that marriage, in its present form, inhibits a man financially as well as a physically.

A man simply can't risk being legally bound to a woman in this, or any society. Biologically, men were long bred to be the protectors, lovers and providers for women.

Now, thanks to feminism, women have rejected their biology for more masculine forms of fulfillment(i.e., getting high paying jobs,bragging about independence,playing sports,etc.), and now men have been forced to compete with the very creature that they were bred to protect.

The advent of this social experiment by the elite has caused women to become vengeful,vindictive and toxic to their families, and the men that they are supposed to create families with. This is why men should reject governmental forms of marriage,no matter how "good" the woman is.




See i agree with you on the part where feminism is bs and has messed up anglo society (and threatening to spread in the south) , what i found disturbing is that u claim that :

"A man simply can't risk being legally bound to a woman in this, or any society."

And please Keep that rule in the anglo world because believe it or not divorce here has a different meaning , divorce in mexico is not equal to ripp off.

If hes a good man and shes a wife material why wouldnt they be toguether under the tradition of holy marriage :( .


Sad is the part where US males avoid marriage for the fear of being robbed legally.
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Re: Getting married / not getting married

Postby terminator » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:22 am

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terminator wrote:Realistically, you have zero chance of finding a "good" woman in the USA, unless you are a Morman, etc. You will need to live overseas and marry to get a visa to live in her country.


That is exactly what I have been saying for the past year after I did a lot of reading on the subject.

Mormons are basically the only group in America that has a better chance of finding a "good" woman in America, mostly because Mormons are committed to practicing their religion and following it's moral code. Most other Christians in America don't follow the moral code, especially as teenagers, most reject all such moral codes and accept Feminism and hedonism as their new religion. A very small minority of other Christians (Catholics and Protestants) in America actually follow the moral code and are "good" women.


Agreed - since we can't become Amish there's only the Mormon or Traditional Catholic, Churches left. I've already worked this out & I've almost became Mormon myself, but I couldn't go through with it. Just because a girl says she's Christian, doesn't mean she'll follow her marriage vows! The bible actually says NEVER to take another believer (her husband included) to any "law court"
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Re: Getting married / not getting married

Postby jboy » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:30 am

Johnny1975 wrote:I never want to get married. But I want the type of girl that would make a good wife. I'd like to live with such a woman and have kids with her but not actually get married.

My question is, is it realistic to expect to be able to persuade such a woman to stick with me and do all the married stuff but not actually get married?



It is not realistic. The only woman who will put up with that is someone desperate.

Why would a good woman pick a man who will never commit to her and won't marry her? Good women can get men who are men enough to be responsible fathers and have respect for marriage, no reason for a good woman to allow herself be used by an immature man.

Men who think they can treat good women like things are worse than feminist in spreading feminism BS in non-anglo countries.
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Postby jboy » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:33 am

colibri wrote:
ChosenTraveler wrote:
colibri wrote:Nope.

Sooo you want a decent girl (wife material) but as an eternal gf that can do all the wife role and eventually will raise your kids? ,


And if shes wife material why would she choose you over a good man who want to marry her ?

this is sad :? not even good girls can expect marry these days


What you have to understand about the modern American male is that he's had to readjust his mind to fit present relationship conditions, and yes, that means, accepting the belief that marriage, in its present form, inhibits a man financially as well as a physically.

A man simply can't risk being legally bound to a woman in this, or any society. Biologically, men were long bred to be the protectors, lovers and providers for women.

Now, thanks to feminism, women have rejected their biology for more masculine forms of fulfillment(i.e., getting high paying jobs,bragging about independence,playing sports,etc.), and now men have been forced to compete with the very creature that they were bred to protect.

The advent of this social experiment by the elite has caused women to become vengeful,vindictive and toxic to their families, and the men that they are supposed to create families with. This is why men should reject governmental forms of marriage,no matter how "good" the woman is.




See i agree with you on the part where feminism is bs and has messed up anglo society (and threatening to spread in the south) , what i found disturbing is that u claim that :

"A man simply can't risk being legally bound to a woman in this, or any society."

And please Keep that rule in the anglo world because believe it or not divorce here has a different meaning , divorce in mexico is not equal to ripp off.

If hes a good man and shes a wife material why wouldnt they be toguether under the tradition of holy marriage :( .


Sad is the part where US males avoid marriage for the fear of being robbed legally.


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Postby Ghost » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:43 am

It ultimately comes down to options. If the girl has a guy who will marry her and who provides equal or superior resources (including looks or status) then she'll bolt. All women want to marry and extract a man's resources. There's a reason the female posters have said you can't keep her just as a lifelong girlfriend. All women want marriage.

Options determine the game. The poorer the country and girl, the fewer options she has. Play your cards right and she may accept it. When the claws come out you can either leave or ask her if it is worth losing you to force the marriage issue.

But always be your own man and never let a woman dictate your choices. That is the wide road to becoming pussy-whipped.
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Postby publicduende » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:53 am

I have quite a few friends (including my best friend), both from Italy and from the UK, who have long term girlfriends/boyfriends, a kid in some occasions, and they have never married.

I think the fallacy of the OP's argument is in thinking that it is possible to find a woman who ticks all the boxes in terms of good heartedness, loyalty, good looks, etc. and know beforehand that she will be OK without the formal bond that is marriage. As far as I know all of the aforementioned couples have started their relationship as boyfriend and girlfriend, found plenty of common ground, learned how to live together and handle a baby, with all its ups and downs, gotten their fair share of arguments and stress, and lived on.

I think in that case and almost only in that case, when the relationship is very solid and the woman knows it will stay so for years to come, that the idea of marriage can be easily forfeited.

Going with the good ol' "first things first" rule, if I were the OP I would be much more preoccupied to find a woman who is a great match for his personality, and try his hardest to build a solid relationship that can stand the test of time and trouble. When one such great family menage is achieved, I believe it would be relatively easier to convince the woman that marriage is reduced to a pure formality. This, unless the woman (or sometimes her family) has religious motives to get married in a church. Or, obviously, if marriage is the only way to get her a permanent residency in his country of choice.
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Re: Getting married / not getting married

Postby expatasiaseeker » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:20 am

Johnny1975 wrote:I never want to get married. But I want the type of girl that would make a good wife. I'd like to live with such a woman and have kids with her but not actually get married.

My question is, is it realistic to expect to be able to persuade such a woman to stick with me and do all the married stuff but not actually get married?


As a guy who has already been married, I warn you- do not ever get married to ANY woman ANYWHERE in the world. Marriage is a disaster for men. I cannot stress that enough.

Why do you want to have kids, anyway? They will most likely just turn out to be ungrateful little bastards.

Just use internet porn, dude. Forget about real women. Modern women are completely out of control and totally unfit for relationships with men.

Until women undergo a serious attitude change, you should have nothing to do with them. Otherwise, they will make your life a living hell.

Men do not need marriage. Women do. Once enough men give up on women, women will change their bullshit attittudes.
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Postby expatasiaseeker » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:25 am

Oh and by the way, what do modern women bring to the table other than their vaginas? Sex with a real woman is very boring, actually.

I find that jacking off to internet porn is far more satisfying than sex with a real life woman.

Modern women have absolutely nothing to offer men.
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Postby Johnny1975 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:50 am

I understand that most women are geared towards marriage. It's what is expected. I get that.

I also understand that pretty much any female that I might get involved with will be like that.



My point is this :

Even with the above being the case, I can only think of 2 reasons (all other reasons boil down to these 2 reasons) why any woman would absolutely insist on getting married :

1 - She wants to gain something from it (materially, legally)

2 - She desperately craves the romance of it all


I am not interested in any such woman.

So, if I were to find a woman who is neither a golddigger / schemer nor a fantasist, I think it's only logical to say that such a woman would be persuadeable when it comes to not getting married. Even if she has always generally been geared towards it. Why on earth would any woman who is neither a golddigger / schemer nor a fantasist leave a guy who doesn't want to get married, especially if he explains the reasons (and there are many)? She wouldn't. Logic dictates that.

The only type of woman who would actually go as far as leaving a guy because he doesn't want to sign that piece of paper, even though everything is working out just great, is a golddigger / schemer or an uncontrollable fantasist.

But like I say, I'm not interested in either.

People live together and have kids all the time without being married. So it does happen.
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Postby The_Adventurer » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:40 pm

If you?re just talking about the west, mainly USA and UK, I will agree with what is being said. Still, one shouldn?t assume this applies to the rest of the world. There are plenty of places where marriage has advantages for men and a woman who doesn?t act right can be left in the street with nothing or sent back to her parents, as damaged goods no one will ever want.
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Postby Andrewww » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:13 pm

Marriage is not a bad thing as long as the woman knows her priorities: her family above everything else.

When you marry a "career" woman you will get burnt eventually because this type of woman will never be happy.
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Postby FreeBird3 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:03 pm

I think you should get married only if both of you want kids. It will help ensure that your children grow up in a stable household.
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