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How Average IQ can explain the global future

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 6:18 pm
by abcdavid01
http://transhumanity.net/articles/entry ... planations
A Jewish average IQ of 115 is 8 points higher than the generally accepted IQ of their closest rivals—Northeast Asians—and approximately 40% higher than the global average IQ of 79.1 calculated by Richard Lynnand Ta tu Vanhanen in IQ and Global Inequity.
Not to brag, but I'm half Jew and half Chinese. I have no idea what my IQ is, but I'm confident it's at least 107. An IQ below 70 means a person has mental retardation. This means the average global IQ is just above retarded. See why I can't be a libertarian? The Founding Fathers of America were wise enough to put restrictions on voting, barriers to entry. The Chinese did the same with imperial examinations following a Confucian model. Now we let anyone vote in America, so politicians have to pander to the lowest elements. That's why Obama can capture the youth vote by hanging out with Jay-Z. Israel is a tiny country and the global Jewish population is also very small. On the other hand, the Chinese number over a billion. Northeast Asians are the second highest as far as IQ. The Chinese don't have a democratic government which represents the interests of people barely above retardation. They may open up a bit, but anyone expecting Chinese democracy will be disappointed. That's why the U.S. will decline.

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 6:59 pm
by S_Parc
Trust me Dave, you're higher than a 107, unless you're really tired on exam day.

I took some three different versions of the thing: 140, 124, & 130. A lot of it is rotating a bunch of objects, rest of it looked like the SAT I.

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 7:18 pm
by lone_yakuza
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Posted: January 13th, 2013, 7:32 pm
by S_Parc
lone_yakuza wrote:I have had an IQ of 135-140 consistently. But I believe that I have become somewhat stupid over the last few years because of a combination of isolation, depression, etc. etc. At least I haven't lost my passion for reading about history and whatnot. But the sciences are really not my thing and I get a brain-ache when I have to do anything like multivariable calculus or chemistry reactions, because that stuff is just so unappealing to me compared to languages or history. Just a pity that history and languages make you pretty much no money or you have to work extremely hard to make the same amount of money.

I'm probably down to like 120 right now.
Ever thought of management consulting? You really don't need to be a math or science whiz to teach people commonsense, on how to run a company. I think it's the best play for one, who's not on that whole health care/medical, IT/tech consulting, or patent law track.

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 7:35 pm
by Rock
S_Parc wrote:Trust me Dave, you're higher than a 107, unless you're really tired on exam day.

I took some three different versions of the thing: 140, 124, & 130. A lot of it is rotating a bunch of objects, rest of it looked like the SAT I.
The smartest Jews (American Ashkenazi) are supposed to have just average US white level (100-103) spatial intelligence but off-the charts (like around 125-130) verbal intelligence. They are also superior but more modestly in the other sub-categories. So they probably won't do so well on those flipping stuff around questions.

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 7:38 pm
by S_Parc
Rock wrote:
S_Parc wrote:Trust me Dave, you're higher than a 107, unless you're really tired on exam day.

I took some three different versions of the thing: 140, 124, & 130. A lot of it is rotating a bunch of objects, rest of it looked like the SAT I.
The smartest Jews (American Ashkenazi) are supposed to have just average US white level (100-103) spatial intelligence but off-the charts (like around 125-130) verbal intelligence. They are also superior but more modestly in the other sub-categories. So they probably won't do so well on those flipping stuff around questions.
Great, because I think I got my points on the spatial grids :) Thus, my dream of retiring as my avatar, a mad scientist like Doc Brown, is in my cards.

Re: How Average IQ can explain the global future

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 7:41 pm
by Rock
abcdavid01 wrote:http://transhumanity.net/articles/entry ... planations
A Jewish average IQ of 115 is 8 points higher than the generally accepted IQ of their closest rivals—Northeast Asians—and approximately 40% higher than the global average IQ of 79.1 calculated by Richard Lynnand Ta tu Vanhanen in IQ and Global Inequity.
Not to brag, but I'm half Jew and half Chinese. I have no idea what my IQ is, but I'm confident it's at least 107. An IQ below 70 means a person has mental retardation. This means the average global IQ is just above retarded. See why I can't be a libertarian? The Founding Fathers of America were wise enough to put restrictions on voting, barriers to entry. The Chinese did the same with imperial examinations following a Confucian model. Now we let anyone vote in America, so politicians have to pander to the lowest elements. That's why Obama can capture the youth vote by hanging out with Jay-Z. Israel is a tiny country and the global Jewish population is also very small. On the other hand, the Chinese number over a billion. Northeast Asians are the second highest as far as IQ. The Chinese don't have a democratic government which represents the interests of people barely above retardation. They may open up a bit, but anyone expecting Chinese democracy will be disappointed. That's why the U.S. will decline.
I hardly consider today's US a democracy, more like corporatacracy or eliteocracy. 93% of congress people were the candidates with superior financial backing. Who really decides the final choices we get presidential candidates? Our system is kind of at the opposite end of the spectrum from the ideals of populism.

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 7:46 pm
by abcdavid01
It's funny, but it's almost like China is becoming more American than America. From a pure economic definition they're not even Communist anymore.

Rock, even if that's true, the free market is a democracy that elects corporations. American culture has become degenerate because of mass production and marketing to the lowest elements of society.

Re: How Average IQ can explain the global future

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 7:48 pm
by Rock
abcdavid01 wrote:http://transhumanity.net/articles/entry ... planations
A Jewish average IQ of 115 is 8 points higher than the generally accepted IQ of their closest rivals—Northeast Asians—and approximately 40% higher than the global average IQ of 79.1 calculated by Richard Lynnand Ta tu Vanhanen in IQ and Global Inequity.
Below 90 is getting really thick. And if you have a quick casual chat with someone who is 85 or below, you should be able to quickly sense that the person is very slow. I think Forrest Gump was just below 85 by the way, lol.

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 8:23 pm
by Andrewww
I never had an IQ test, what does that say about my IQ :lol: ?

George W. Bush looks like a retard to me and he became president.

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 8:37 pm
by abcdavid01
He also went to Yale, so...

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 8:49 pm
by S_Parc
abcdavid01 wrote:He also went to Yale, so...
Him and Gore, both got mainly C-'s to B-'s at their respective Ivy League colleges. I'd hit their butts in MOST academic subjects, any day. Those fellows were clearly, highly connected, mediocre students.

The only former politicians I'd feel threatened by were Alexander Hamilton, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln, Richard Nixon, and perhaps Teddy Roosevelt and Clinton, when he's actually studying and not fooling around. As for Hamilton, I'd throw in the towel, I honestly don't believe that I'm as smart as him. Hamilton's IQ was probably around Newton's level. Otherwise, I'll accept other challengers.

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 8:55 pm
by abcdavid01
That's a good list. If there's anyone I think is really off the charts it'd be Da Vinci. It's like the guy was actually a time traveller or something. I know the supposedly highest ever was William James Sidis:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_James_Sidis

IQ isn't everything though. What did Sidis actually accomplish?

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 9:02 pm
by S_Parc
abcdavid01 wrote:That's a good list. If there's anyone I think is really off the charts it'd be Da Vinci. It's like the guy was actually a time traveller or something. I know the supposedly highest ever was William James Sidis:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_James_Sidis

IQ isn't everything though. What did Sidis actually accomplish?
Once again, being a Bostonian, I'd heard about Sidis, as peer level/precursor to Norbert Wiener, where Sidis was forced upon the stage too early for his own good, Wiener was allowed to slowly grow into an academic. Thus, Sidis' lacked the support to be able to transition from a child prodigy into a useful academic career. Wiener, also a Harvard PhD holder at 17, was a staff MITer for the rest of his life.

Posted: January 13th, 2013, 10:07 pm
by fschmidt
The article doesn't mention monogamy which is absolutely critical for the evolution of intelligence. And this was the key difference between Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews, that the Ashkenazi were strictly monogamous and the Sephardi weren't.