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For your guys' mental health and whatever sanity you guys have left, I think we should all stop giving a f**k about women or relationships.
Women are hypergamous and will always be looking for a "better" or "more alpha" man. It doesn't matter what culture she comes from. I am fairly certain this is the way it is around the world.
I guess if you want to settle for a girl way beneath you or who is ugly, then you would have no problem finding a "faithful" woman, but most women are simply whores, money whores, status whores, sex whores, or all around whores.
The ones that are extremely rare, and I guess if you have a lot of time, money, and resources, then going and finding that rare, faithful, honest women is something you should attempt.
But for most who do not have all of those, it is best not to play the game at all and let most women end up alone. Of course, if given the chance, you should f**k a girl or p4p if they are very good looking STD free hookers.
Anyways, with the amount of f***ing that most women around the world do before the age of 21, most probably have STDs anyways and most probably qualify as hookers.
Maybe when I go to Russia, I will find that more women are not as slutty as most East Asian or Western or American or Western European women. But I am pretty sure that hypergamy is still strong with Russian girls. All girls have hypergamy hardwired into them, and unless they have an extremely strict and traditional upbringing and have a very disciplined, honorable, honest personality, they will almost certainly cheat on you. So in those cases, you should treat her like any other hooker.
If you can find the rare gem, then by all means pursue a long term relationship or marriage.
If you are a strong man... a real man, then not having a woman should not trouble you so much. Focus on something actually worthwhile in your life and something that is not constantly frustrating. When you find your true calling and are enjoying your life without a woman, you will realize that you don' even f***ing need women, aside from the occasional need to get your rocks off or maybe if you need a maid because your job makes you a very busy person.
Women are ultimately simply blackholes that suck all of your resources, time, and energy into oblivion. They have very limited shelf-lives as well and will always do their best to trick men into an unfair deal because of their hypergamous nature. If they are decent looking, they will undoubtedly drop even an above average man for a top 5% man or even just to trade up for a man of "higher status." Sometimes they will not leave you overtly, but instead cheat on you in secret. Go into relationships knowing that she is thinking of cheating on you and is simply using you for money or perceived status, and you will not be blindsided.
The women who have the upbringing and morals to suppress her hypergamous and dishonorable nature are probably 1/1000000000, so don't be stupid and think that most foreign women are not hypergamous and whores and sluts, because women are pretty much the same everywhere. American women are simply allowed by culture/society to be more slutty than women in other cultures.
+1. I can't understand how men can keep getting rejected/screwed/hurt/used... by women and NEVER give up on them and also never help another man, but will bend over backwards for women (even if he doesn't know her). Guys are screwed, so we should give up on both guys and girls.
I've known at least two virgins around the same age as me. One was actually older. She was a Puerto Rican living in Florida who later moved to North Carolina. Frankly I was surprised to find she was a virgin. The other was a Polish girl who moved to America when she was seven, but retained the accent. She was a Catholic and very intelligent.
That's in America. Don't be so pessimistic.
Besides, you said you studied evolution and anthropology in college. I thought it was the other way around. Since women carry children for nine months it is to their benefit to find a longer term mate to provide for them. On the other hand, men benefit by spreading their seed as much as possible. Easy birth control may have changed things, but not as far as hard wiring goes.
White women have short shelf lives. Asian and African women age much better. Men can also get much younger women, but the opposite isn't usually true. My grandfather was twelve years older than my grandmother.
I want a woman because I want an heir. A strong family and a dynasty. Upper middle class whites have embraced nihilism, so they fail to recognize the greatest way to codify their attributes after death: an heir. I want an heir to be my legacy and inherit my intelligence. Hopefully such an heir would even supersede me either by being more intelligent or rising to a position where his intelligence could be more influential than mine is. You're an intelligent man Yakuza. You ought to do something about that. Something that will last after your death. Having an heir isn't the only way, but it is a great one and one of the easiest.
Anywhere the state steps into the role of hubby (providing a generous welfare or benefits system), this happens.
Most men just ignore recorded history.
Where women don't need men ("need", not merely "want"), they discard their marriages in droves.
Data from around the world confirm this.
Hat tip to the Japanese guys for being ahead of the curve.
http://www.japantoday.com/category/life ... chelorhood
Heading off to certain other countries will work, if the time required to develop a robust welfare system exceeds your remaining lifespan and your wife doesn't get impatient and simply poison you or otherwise speed up your demise.
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"Even an American judge is unlikely to award child support for imputed children." - FredOnEverything
Great post brother. This is exactly what men need to do- stop being so obssessed and focused on women.
There is NO NEED for marriage, and NO NEED to LIVE with a woman.
Nothing wrong with having a girlfriend, although that is also too much of a pain in the ass. Best to just have short flings with women.
And if you really want to go hardcore, it is best to just focus on video games (or whatever hobby you enjoy doing) and internet porn.
I can assure you, sex with a real life woman is actually very boring. There's nothing special about it at all. Internet porn is actually far more satisfying than a real life woman.
God help women when men finally realize that they DO NOT NEED THEM and that porn is actually far more fulfilling than sex with a real life woman. Bitches are going to grow old alone, each lady living with 20 cats.
Most men are manginas, although this is gradually changing. Have faith, brother! Antifeminism has exploded over the past year, tons of young guys who have no connection with the antifeminist movement are now also saying a lot of antifeminist style things. Just look at all the comments online and at YouTube and on blogs and you'll notice a rapidly increasing trend of young men waking up and rejecting feminism outright.
In the meantime, just avoid women, play video games, drink beer, jack off to porn, and be happy. Women are ABSOLUTELY NOT REQUIRED in life for happiness. Just ask any married man, "Are you happy?" and if they are honest they will say "No, I wish I had remained single".
Don't make the mistake of marriage, guys, whether it's to a western OR a foreign woman.
women are the same everywhere you go, the only difference is that in some places women dont have enough power to show their true colors but that will change gradually
video games and internet porn will f**k you up,
check out 'demise of guys' and 'yourbrainonporn.com'
bang real women but dont marry unless deal is too good to pass
And you guys think it's unwise to seek mental protection! Taking the trap is much more enticing than avoiding the trap. Most stupid humans find themselves making excuses just to walk into them.
Internet porn, or ANY pornography for that matter, seems like a nice alternative to a real women. Lest you forget, that you're wasting valuable energy on satanic media, which was designed for this and many other negative purposes. All that energy you spend on it has to go SOMEWHERE.
When you get off to satanic jew media, you're giving away EVERY aspect of your health to the satanic jew faggot, one unit at a time. Your sight, your money, your fitness, your sanity, your strength. It adds up over time. Why do you think the pornographic industry is one of THE most profitable industries on earth? Get into porn, and you get the life you wanted. But even actors and actresses don't get off scot-free. Most of them are lucky to be alive, since the act of f***ing creates incredible bad luck on its own. The smart bastards are the corporate bunch, who don't copulate with the dirty sows.
I would swear off anything that gets you off sexually. As a male, you're much too valuable to be wasting your stuff on ANY sow, domestic or foreign. It'll suck of course to not be wasting away on a woman. But you'll find other, much more profitable and satisfying ventures as a result.
OK. You could say that broadband porn and the occasional high-class hooker are a perfect surrogate to release sexual urges. At least for men, marriage has long lost its status as a marker of social conformity. True, we don't need women to be happy males. After all, a man can live all his life without ever drinking a drop of milk.
Yet, try and live more than a few days without drinking any water and (if you survive) come tell me how it was. Love is the water, the essential nutrient of our soul.
If not the love of a woman, what love will it be Lone Yakuza? Where are you getting your love from, ABCDavid01? Didn't you learn to yearn love from your mom and dad, or close family? Weren't your moms, however busy and career-minded, loving women who did not spare a few caresses and cuddles when you were young? Are you so desensitized to human relations that you forgot your natural, biological need to rediscover that maternal embrace, that physical contact in another human being, be it your girlfriend or the homeless old woman in that street corner?
We feed on love, acts of genuine human contact and proximity. We need to trust and be trusted, even if that circle of trust collapses to a single person. Feel free to look for that love and trust elsewhere than an American woman, or any woman for that matter. But, for the love of, don't even think of starving yourself of human contact. Grab every smile you can find in a homeless shelter, they're usually from people who value who they are with much more than what they possess. Do some voluntary work with deprived children, suck the tenderness and the wisdom off those derelict elderly - their families might have forsaken them, but they won't have forgotten how to give love. Get yourself a dog: they've been programmed to love and trust their owners and sometimes I can only wish we could learn from their innate behaviour.
Whatever your IQ or political or cultural beliefs, and however articulate you can be in justifying your state of self-inflicted withdrawal, I believe there is no rational argument you can possibly shield yourselves behind to prove that you can live without love. It's against human nature as much as it is for us to breathe nitrogen instead of oxygen.
You know I appreciate your intelligence, your pride and your discipline. I hold you both in great esteem. Yet, without one or more human subjects that you will elect as the source and target of your loving feelings, even the greatest of your achievements will appear shallow and useless.
As somebody once said, you can live without knowing why, but you can't live without knowing for whom.
Nonsense, people live all the time without love. Priests, disabled people, poor and alone people. First of all, Lone Yakuza is not against love per se, he is against the basing of one's life on pursuing that which is elusive and damaging yourself in the process. Those who do sufficiently connect with a woman turn out to be the biggest losers in the end!
But your opinion is one that has obviously drunk the proverbial kool-aid from top to bottom. Yours is the opinion that tells men that they NEED women, leading them to eventual ruin in the process.
No. We don't NEED women, and we don't NEED love. Under the right circumstances, it can be nice when it occurs, but life is not about pursuing love like Hollywood and western women want you to believe. Life is about personal fulfillment, attainment of knowledge, and personal achievement however you can get it.
Stop telling men that that which is not necessary, is necessary. I know you are coming from a good place, but it is destructive. Stop it.
Also, I recommend publicduende not linking the "Love of a woman" to Oxygen & Water or having enough spiritual content, to help out someone in need. Please, that's just insulting to anyone who'd studied elementary school biology or isn't a douchebag.
16 years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.
Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.
AB discussion thread
BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
i am with yakuza on this. man, that shit sounds nice. this is my man. so i think there is no more reason to make the big war on the white man. just keep to yourself and your happiness.
contrarian is right, love is not necessary. this reminds me of alcoholics who canÂ´t understand how others canÂ´t survive without alcohol. - i am about 40 and i donÂ´t need love and still alife and more happy than the standard married guys. though i have nothing against suicide my life doesnÂ´t suck without woman and love.
anyway we are only puppets of our genes so there is no reason to call girls whores and stuff. they only follow their program like men follow theirs. things will get adjusted automatically. like xsplan once wrote: the job of a woman is to get you at your balls. so winning the game is almost impossible.
acb, i donÂ´t think we need heirs and i donÂ´t think intelligence is a big thing. they are just illusions like everything else. but when itÂ´s your calling so itÂ´s ok.
anyway yakuza, keep up the good work. everything which depends on others is bad. everything which depends on us is good. -
good thread, this is good stuff for cooler mgtow guys.
How immature, to equate "love" to "sex". I thought that was obvious from my post above, but perhaps the cultural rift between you (a North American, I presume) and me (an Italian) is deeper than I was prepared to accept.
Besides silly jokes, priests do not entertain sex but can have a life full of joy and love: the love of their own family, their community, and not least will feel the love of God inside themselves and everything around them. If anything, to give love, more tham receive, is why they embraced their vocation in the first place.
By the same token, disabled people may also give and receive love beyond their physical ability to give and receive sexual pleasure.
Loving somebody, even an animal, is the best way to attain the utmost knowledge, that of human nature and, by reflection, the knowledge of the Self. That's the big teaching from Goethe's Faust: what sense has a man who attains knowledge and loses his soul in the process?
When are you guys stopping with your America-centric mindset? There are people all over Europe and the rest of the world who grew up in loving families and want to give that love back, indeed they consider that two-way process essential to their lives!
I may be coming from a good place, but the place won't shape the person forever. Even if you have come out of a loveless family or community, there's always plenty of chance to realise that having love in one's life is not just necessary, it's natural.
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