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Are there differences between western women?

Postby datingcoach » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:02 am

Hi i am french and i had the chance to travel to USA,Canada, Netherlands, Uk,Spain, Germany, Italy and Belgium. I know western Europe very well and north america quite well.

It is funny to see that western men have lots of stereotypes about western women. Let me explain. Many American men believe that french girls or italian women are better than american women. Many french men believe that american women are more open-minded than french women....

After travelling all over the place in the western world, i have noticed no differences between western women.

- Males bashing is the same in all those western countries.
- Western women always complain about western men. (saying they are macho, self centered, cheater...)
- Western women think they look like a princess when they in fact look like a mess.

Italian women exactly similar to usa women or French women.

TV and medias perpetuates stereotypes about french,italian or american women by making a fake reality.

Consequently, it is useless from an american man to travel to Germany thinking he will find there a nicer woman.
It is useless for a french man to travel to USA thinking he will find a nicer woman.
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Postby Winston » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:27 am

That's your opinion, but 99.99 percent of thousands of men who have dated abroad DISAGREE with you.

See here:
http://www.happierabroad.com/testimonials.php
http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Page74b.htm

Italian and French women are also not as obese as American women, and they are not trying to become masculine. Nor are they filled with a man hating "men are creeps" attitude. In France, there is also no "battle of the sexes". See this interview about that here: https://vimeo.com/56818395
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Postby Banano » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:04 pm

dating coach is spot on,

I have travelled accross Europe and have many friends/relatives who work in Western Europe(Germany/Austria/Scandinavia), what we say about AW it applies to all western women and eastern europe is getting westernized at rapid rate(czech r, slovakia,balkans).

Average French guy in Paris have the same level of difficulty to meet women as an American men have in LA or NYC,

Serbian/Croatian men in their respective countries are more desperate and fck far less than American or Australian men do, we are talking about average guys.

Turkey is nightmare for guys, Scandinavia is more feminied than any other country,unless you stand out for good reasons(money status looks) forget about it

Winston i dont know where you getting these 99.99 figures from..

instead of spending time TW it would be nice to see you on a trip to Europe, visit clubs in Paris, London, Rome, Belgrade, Prague, Amstedam, Munich.. try cold approach women under 28, street, malls, parks, daygame/nightgame

I wonder how successfull it is going to be
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Postby Winston » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:18 pm

Banano,
You are too quick to believe the negative. Why don't you go to Europe and see for yourself? How do you explain the testimonials below about France and Germany?

http://www.happierabroad.com/FanMail.htm

“Winston

yup -- these guys are right on the money. I flew to France after quitting a job in Silicon Valley...(where the women are absolutely terrible!)

I go to a French language school and take a class....I make 20 new friends overnight....I meet my future wife...I get married and now 2yrs later...im STILL HAPPY!

I dont want to bunch all American girls into one big lump....BUT -- the majority of them due to culture or something act really snotty and stupid - like we’re not GOOD ENOUGH for them....and to be honest and not toot my horn - i was voted Prom King in highschool...so Id hope to think that Im not THAT ugly at least...but i swear i went 12yrs in the bay area - and rarely found a girl who even batted an eye....and quite frankly i started to lower my own standards lower and lower....and for what? The moment i traveled anywhere else - i found girls that would SINK any american girl that ignored me...now i have a wife that turns heads left and right - but she is staring right into my eyes with love.

Real love!

I think America has a cultural problem internally that is eating it alive...

Good luck manâ€￾

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8066

“Yeaaaa... Russian or Ukrainian girls... I know, I grew up there and moved to America only to understand the same stuff people have been writing up here - life of white male is next to zero in the USA unless you are some wigger, white trash or football player. Somehow girls go for "true" losers and call normal educated smart people "losers" I just don't freaking get that! Thank God, I just moved to Europe and even here in France girls are much more skinny, tender, romantic, dressed much better and actually dance in the clubs. No fake smiles, no "game playing"... WTF is going on with USA? Where did all these games, "you're creep" behavior came from? Why are you "creepy" if you act natural and spontaneous in the USA? Why do you have to hide your intentions when you meet a girl? Why compliments are viewed as "creepy"? I freaking hate that word cuz it applies to most normal guys just being guys who get low self-esteem not even understanding that they are not the problem - the problem is with f*cked up society in the States.

Go Europe! Go Asia! I am proud of being Ukrainian! Our girls are some of the most beautiful in the world and with proper care they will stay looking gorgeous until very old.â€￾

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“saprian 2 points 6 days ago

My experience here might be specific to the area were I'm staying (when I say US, I technically talk about the state I'm staying in), but I found for example that people in the US don't seem to make friends in classes; I found that pretty weird.

Let me give you an example that I found pretty striking. During my stay here I started to take dance classes. I found if I run into somebody from the class somewhere they would ignore me, not say hello, and in some cases even break eye-contact and all that, unless (!) we had officially been introduced, talked with each other or danced at the class. They treated me like a complete stranger.

When I went home to Germany for a couple of weeks I found a local dance-school and went to one of their practice sessions. On my way home at the train station I run into a couple I had seen at the dance; we hadn't talked, danced or been introduced to each other. We made eye-contact and started talking (and that was 2am at night at a deserted train station) - it was the most natural thing in the world and the conversation was very warm and friendly.â€￾
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Postby jamesbond » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:21 pm

Winston wrote:http://reddit.com/info/22ggh/comments

“saprian 2 points 6 days ago

My experience here might be specific to the area were I'm staying (when I say US, I technically talk about the state I'm staying in), but I found for example that people in the US don't seem to make friends in classes; I found that pretty weird.

Let me give you an example that I found pretty striking. During my stay here I started to take dance classes. I found if I run into somebody from the class somewhere they would ignore me, not say hello, and in some cases even break eye-contact and all that, unless (!) we had officially been introduced, talked with each other or danced at the class. They treated me like a complete stranger.

When I went home to Germany for a couple of weeks I found a local dance-school and went to one of their practice sessions. On my way home at the train station I run into a couple I had seen at the dance; we hadn't talked, danced or been introduced to each other. We made eye-contact and started talking (and that was 2am at night at a deserted train station) - it was the most natural thing in the world and the conversation was very warm and friendly.â€￾

What he says is so true about needing to be introduced to people in the USA. In order to meet women, you really need to be introduced to them by another person. This way the woman feels comfortable that you are not a "creep" or a "weirdo."

Women in America are scared of men and only get comfortable around men that they are introduced to by a third person.
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Postby Andrewww » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:32 pm

I wouldn't consider France or Italy in the top 10 countries for finding a woman, in fact most of the Italian women I've met are horrible but French women are definitely more feminine and in touch with their role as a woman. They still have issues but they are way more social and click with men much easier than the anglobitches.
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Re: Are there differences between western women?

Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:39 pm

Hi datingcoach,
I can not talk about french women as I have never dated one and know very few of them.

I am friendly (yes, just friends) with a romanian woman who lived in Italy the last 5 years. Her assessment of Italian women is "deeply evil people". She is 23 (nearly 24) and is supermodel quality...she says she could not even get a man to talk to her in Italy because the women have screwed the men over so badly in divorce. She relocated to Germany on the explicit effort to find a husband. We already had the discussion that I would be "good enough" if I was prepared to have more kids...but since I do not want more kids I am not "good enough".

No matter WHERE the woman comes from "cash and kids" is what they are after until they are too old to be interesting.

I have met women as old as 43 who still dream they are going to get married and have kids.....they have to dream it because it is not real and its not going to happen at that age. Not when a 23 year old supermodel can not find a man to date with the intention of marriage and children.

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Postby PeterAndrewNolan » Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:49 pm

Winston wrote:When I went home to Germany for a couple of weeks I found a local dance-school and went to one of their practice sessions. On my way home at the train station I run into a couple I had seen at the dance; we hadn't talked, danced or been introduced to each other. We made eye-contact and started talking (and that was 2am at night at a deserted train station) - it was the most natural thing in the world and the conversation was very warm and friendly.â€￾


Winston,
this is absolutely standard in Germany. Indeed people are even much more friendly. In the summer months all the resturants have bench tables out in the squares to serve dinners on the long warm summer nights. These are always packed from thursday to sunday. Food is cheap, the beer is good, the company is great. I often go to my local place on these evenings. Since they are long bench tables you almost always share a table with someone you do not know. Usually I will be going to dinner with just one friend....not so often in a group.

When you sit down you ALWAYS say hello to those around you that you do not know. VERY often they will strike up a conversation with me because I am a foreigner. I always go out of my way to tell them that the best feature of germany are the german people....that they are some of the friendliest and easiest to get along with people in the world. This ALWAYS comes as a shock to these people. ALWAYS.

When I go to a bar and eat alone it is UNUSUAL for someone not to come and ask me why I am alone and strike up a conversation...it happens all the time....if no one else then one of the bar staff will do the same. You almost NEVER see people drinking or eating alone even though I did that a LOT in western countries....

Many americans who come to Germany remark on how friendly everyone is and how they so welcome foreigners as long as those foreigners show due respect.

And a funny thing you might like to know...our friends from ASIO wrote to me and noted that none of my former family and friends wished me happy birthday on my facebook. They called me a loser etc.

I laughed at this because this year I was wished happy birthday by more people than has EVER happened before in my life. And I am 49. I got lots of emails that our friends at ASIO could not see as well. So I pointed out to my friends at ASIO that this had happened and that the fact those who claimed to love me and care about me before my divorce did not wish me happy birthday was a comment on THEM and not on ME! LOL!!

These ASIO guys are not very smart...

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Postby All_That_Is_Man » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:44 pm

I'm glad this topic has been brought up, mainly because I live in Mexico (a western country) now and the women here are absolutely no different than American women other than they are far more beautiful here than American women will ever be. The attitude is the same however: fear of men, exclusively dates deadbeats, must be introduced to men by a third party, hates all men from the day she turns 25 until she dies, money-hungry, won't even acknowledge a good man unless she is underage or a postmenopausal old whale, etc.
Thankfully I did not travel for the sole purpose of finding a girlfriend like the rest of the saps on these forums. But back on topic. I would argue that there are only very little differences among (not "between", my good man) western women, and most of which is only their short-term behavior and their physical appearances. For example, a woman from, say, Belize may at first seem like a feminine, understanding, and sweet person, but her long-term behavior will reveal that she is clearly no different than a man-hating Shaniqua from the welfare-rich ghettos of Los Angeles. Or a woman from, say, Canada may look like a young Jennifer Connelly, but her long-term behavior will reveal that she has the personality of a career-obsessed, American feminazi. Overall, you're getting a better bang for your buck with non-American western women, but this still does not make them ideal for relationships in the long-term. But, you boys know this already.
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Re: Are there differences between western women?

Postby E_Irizarry » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:00 am

datingcoach wrote:Hi i am french and i had the chance to travel to USA,Canada, Netherlands, Uk,Spain, Germany, Italy and Belgium. I know western Europe very well and north america quite well.

It is funny to see that western men have lots of stereotypes about western women. Let me explain. Many American men believe that french girls or italian women are better than american women. Many french men believe that american women are more open-minded than french women....

After travelling all over the place in the western world, i have noticed no differences between western women.

- Males bashing is the same in all those western countries.
- Western women always complain about western men. (saying they are macho, self centered, cheater...)
- Western women think they look like a princess when they in fact look like a mess.

Italian women exactly similar to usa women or French women.

TV and medias perpetuates stereotypes about french,italian or american women by making a fake reality.

Consequently, it is useless from an american man to travel to Germany thinking he will find there a nicer woman.
It is useless for a french man to travel to USA thinking he will find a nicer woman.


EuroBrat said that real Italian women are more feminine. Are you sure you aren't drinking from the Kool-Aid?
There are Black American guys "cleaning house" over there in Deutschland - even the ones that cannot speak German for sh.it.

Yeah I think you are got some of what you have rendered a tadbit twisted. :-/
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Postby E_Irizarry » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:02 am

All_That_Is_Man wrote:I'm glad this topic has been brought up, mainly because I live in Mexico (a western country) now and the women here are absolutely no different than American women other than they are far more beautiful here than American women will ever be. The attitude is the same however: fear of men, exclusively dates deadbeats, must be introduced to men by a third party, hates all men from the day she turns 25 until she dies, money-hungry, won't even acknowledge a good man unless she is underage or a postmenopausal old whale, etc.
Thankfully I did not travel for the sole purpose of finding a girlfriend like the rest of the saps on these forums. But back on topic. I would argue that there are only very little differences among (not "between", my good man) western women, and most of which is only their short-term behavior and their physical appearances. For example, a woman from, say, Belize may at first seem like a feminine, understanding, and sweet person, but her long-term behavior will reveal that she is clearly no different than a man-hating Shaniqua from the welfare-rich ghettos of Los Angeles. Or a woman from, say, Canada may look like a young Jennifer Connelly, but her long-term behavior will reveal that she has the personality of a career-obsessed, American feminazi. Overall, you're getting a better bang for your buck with non-American western women, but this still does not make them ideal for relationships in the long-term. But, you boys know this already.


IDK but as much as i want to side with you, I think Falcon has an antagonist argument about MX for you. Falcon's experience was contrarily different to yours, ATIM. I'm just saying.
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Postby All_That_Is_Man » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:16 am

E_Irizarry wrote:
All_That_Is_Man wrote:I'm glad this topic has been brought up, mainly because I live in Mexico (a western country) now and the women here are absolutely no different than American women other than they are far more beautiful here than American women will ever be. The attitude is the same however: fear of men, exclusively dates deadbeats, must be introduced to men by a third party, hates all men from the day she turns 25 until she dies, money-hungry, won't even acknowledge a good man unless she is underage or a postmenopausal old whale, etc.
Thankfully I did not travel for the sole purpose of finding a girlfriend like the rest of the saps on these forums. But back on topic. I would argue that there are only very little differences among (not "between", my good man) western women, and most of which is only their short-term behavior and their physical appearances. For example, a woman from, say, Belize may at first seem like a feminine, understanding, and sweet person, but her long-term behavior will reveal that she is clearly no different than a man-hating Shaniqua from the welfare-rich ghettos of Los Angeles. Or a woman from, say, Canada may look like a young Jennifer Connelly, but her long-term behavior will reveal that she has the personality of a career-obsessed, American feminazi. Overall, you're getting a better bang for your buck with non-American western women, but this still does not make them ideal for relationships in the long-term. But, you boys know this already.


IDK but as much as i want to side with you, I think Falcon has an antagonist argument about MX for you. Falcon's experience was contrarily different to yours, ATIM. I'm just saying.


I have no complaints about Mexico. The women, on the other hand, are just Ameri¢unts with better exteriors. Same exact rules and traits that I've listed above apply to them as they would a woman in the United States. Not sure how Falcon's experience has anything to do with this topic, but then again I personally never had any motivation to read a (long) manifesto of how a whiney Asian guy from California finally found a girlfriend. Still don't care actually.
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Re: Are there differences between western women?

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About France

Postby datingcoach » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:04 am

Winston wrote:Italian and French women are also not as obese as American women, and they are not trying to become masculine. Nor are they filled with a man hating "men are creeps" attitude. In France, there is also no "battle of the sexes". See this interview about that here: https://vimeo.com/56818395



I am french and i live france near Montpellier (south of France). French women are today obese and masculine. There are also battle of sexes.
Je suis francais et je vis en France. Les femmes francaises sont aujourd'hui obèses et masculines. Il y a ici une guerre des sexes également.

If there is a paradise land on earth for men that's south america and eastern europe and that's it. Real women are from central and south america and eastern Europe. I am sorry i don't know asia enough to give you an opinion about asia.
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About the video, i cannot acknowledge a video coming from a woman. Beware of the women propaganda.

Live here from western europe...
We often see misandry against us. Men are portrayed as rapist, machos, pedophile, self-centered and greedy by western european women. I have seen here Men being slaves of women, carrying their bags all over, spending lots of money in restaurant and nightlife(champagne bottles) to get no attention from women. I have seen girls going out with bad boys.

Let me give an example.
Once in montpellier, one my friend was in love with a french girl. He was very romantic. Once, he invited her to his place. He cooked for her in a face to face diner. My friend was a good looking man, he was tall, strong and good looking. After the diner, he brought her back to the hall. In the elevator, he met two brazilian men who were really bad boys type of guys. They chatted together about what they were going to do in the night. The day after, my male friend got to know that the french girl went everywhere in the city of Montpellier in the night to find the bad guys, she got drunk and got laid with one of them. Then, she kept on seeing my friend and i remember i was in front of her. She was always complaining about the said bad boy saying he was not taking care of her well.
I was young and polite at that time and i did not answer but we have lots of stories like that in France.

Another good evidence in France: Celibacy is booming
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linternaute.com%2Factualite%2Fsociete%2Fdossier%2Fmoeurs-des-francais%2Fcelibat.shtml

I am convinced you see the same things in the USA.

My point is: "the western world is ONE". There is no differences.
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