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Post by abcdavid01 » January 29th, 2013, 6:43 pm

Okay, so we outbreed all the cancer genes and then the super smart remnants all create a model society run on hyper efficient nuclear power. Then something goes wrong and there's a meltdown and everyone is irradiated...and gets cancer!

Or how about after all those 95% morons are gone the rest all have a party and some of them decide to hit the beach. They keep doing this until eventually one of them wakes up to find...they have skin cancer!
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Post by publicduende » January 29th, 2013, 6:50 pm

That our planet doesn't have the resources to sustain our growing population, it's a big fat myth. A staggering proportion of corn fields in Africa are being intensively cultivated with low-quality GM crops and their harvest is going to feed...the chicken and cows that get slaughtered to feed us with...low-quality processed meat food like hamburgers. Stop planting Monsanto crap and give the produce back to the African population and, hey presto!, you'll get healthier Americans and alleviate African famine at the same time!

There are so many broken processes, so much production of waste in our planet, that we are actively destroying our civilisation without even realising it. Our children and grandchildren will probably curse us for doing that.

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Post by Andrewww » January 29th, 2013, 7:02 pm

OzGuy wrote:Andrew this is not usually the case in Australia. Bogan mothers raise Bogan kids because the child learns from the parent. They usually follow in their mothers footsteps and think its acceptable to drop out of school, binge drink, do drugs, and get pregnant at the age of 16. Their mother was like this and doesn't teach them any differently. Therefore the cycle continues.
Again I have to point out education, culture and ressource distribution. If you live in a rich country and you don't starve it doesn't mean you are educated, in fact these people are free riders. However if ressources were scarce and the government wouldn't provide for society's failures then maybe they will grow up and start working on their future.
Banano wrote:Andrewww

this is the best topic ever posted on this forum

you could get as much education as you like but it wont get rid of cancer gene you inherited from your dad nor will it make you look like a male model

if you cant see value or logic in this post then you shdnt be allowed to breed
Not sure if stupid or just trolling :roll:

How about investing in medical technology instead of weapons ? Even with our primitive methods cancer can be cured if detected early.

When you see a beautiful person on the street do you assure his/her parents are also beautiful ? Even among brothers/sisters there can be major differences so you'll never have 100% perfection short of genetic engineering.

Not to mention that models won't make the cut because beauty =/= intelligence.

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Post by Contrarian Expatriate » January 29th, 2013, 9:13 pm

Sometimes two ugly people produce a beautiful child. Sometimes to idiots produce a brilliant child. Sometimes two otherwise wayward people produce model citizens.

That should answer your question.
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Post by All_That_Is_Man » January 29th, 2013, 9:51 pm

Banano wrote:Winston

why such an emotional response...
Could it be because whiny little Winnie has a face like Chewbacca's anus and therefore felt that this thread was a personal threat against him and his privilege to procreate?
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Post by Ghost » January 29th, 2013, 10:58 pm

So who gets to decide this and who will enforce it? Not only is it a terrible idea, but there's no way that any government or other force could control billions in order to accomplish this.

Interesting also that morality was not included in the desirable traits. A world of sociopaths would be horrifying no matter how attractive and intelligent they are...and there are already a large minority of sociopaths (although in the West such a trait is actively selected for by most women.)

And as someone said already, something similar is being done...by feminists to "undesirables," aka men who aren't hot, sociopathic thugs. Leave the intelligence out, and women are actively selecting to breed only with attractive guys.

Why are terrible mating/life choices made in the West? Because external forces interfere and screw things up. If the GovCorp complex was eliminated, then all of a sudden women would find that those decent guys are attractive after all. Society would become more just, stable, and happy just by getting the evil influences out of the way.

History shows us how humanity can do better. Utopia is a fool's dream, but humanity has great potential. No need to resort to insane and impractical ideas. There are forces actively conspiring to prevent this potential from developing or to destroy the fruits of virtue, aka feminism and ilk.

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Post by publicduende » January 29th, 2013, 11:52 pm

Ghost wrote:So who gets to decide this and who will enforce it? Not only is it a terrible idea, but there's no way that any government or other force could control billions in order to accomplish this.

Interesting also that morality was not included in the desirable traits. A world of sociopaths would be horrifying no matter how attractive and intelligent they are...and there are already a large minority of sociopaths (although in the West such a trait is actively selected for by most women.)

And as someone said already, something similar is being done...by feminists to "undesirables," aka men who aren't hot, sociopathic thugs. Leave the intelligence out, and women are actively selecting to breed only with attractive guys.

Why are terrible mating/life choices made in the West? Because external forces interfere and screw things up. If the GovCorp complex was eliminated, then all of a sudden women would find that those decent guys are attractive after all. Society would become more just, stable, and happy just by getting the evil influences out of the way.

History shows us how humanity can do better. Utopia is a fool's dream, but humanity has great potential. No need to resort to insane and impractical ideas. There are forces actively conspiring to prevent this potential from developing or to destroy the fruits of virtue, aka feminism and ilk.
There have been notable cases of government-sponsored eugenics, but they were:

1) implemented in societies with an overt socialist agenda and very strong welfare state (eg. Sweden);
2) targeted at individuals who were, themselves and their potential offspring, be felt as a burden towards their all-encompassing welfare system;
3) the individuals who were targeted surely were not "ugly" people, but people with mental diseases and severe hereditary conditions, such as heart malformations. Surely the eugenics policy wasn't meant for people who just looked ugly! :) To predicate this already controversial topic on the very subjective matters of aesthetics and exterior beauty is just vilifying, even for the genuine advocates of eugenics!

Then this is the thing, exactly: who gets to decide who is ugly and who's not? And about sociopathic individuals? Considering most people very high up in the ranks of politics, economics and finance, and corporate are certified sociopaths and criminals, would a society ever implement a policy that will start out beheading itself?

As for whom women like to breed with, the topic would probably deserve its dedicated forum section... :)
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Post by abcdavid01 » January 29th, 2013, 11:55 pm

Yes, yes, thank you publicduende! Everyone mentions Sweden as a model country for Socialism, but few know about their eugenics. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
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Post by Ghost » January 30th, 2013, 6:16 am

publicduende wrote: Then this is the thing, exactly: who gets to decide who is ugly and who's not? And about sociopathic individuals? Considering most people very high up in the ranks of politics, economics and finance, and corporate are certified sociopaths and criminals, would a society ever implement a policy that will start out beheading itself?
Sociopaths are the biggest problem in my view. Within the ranks of humanity, and typically towards the top, are these creatures who are physically and genetically human, but lack human emotion, including fear. Detecting them is hard enough. They are typically intelligent and charming. Even if humanity decided to suddenly take care of sociopaths, the sociopaths would not fear it. I think the ultimate twist would be that the sociopaths would be most likely to institute actions against sociopaths, essentially playing all of humanity for fools (which they pretty much do anyway.)

They are what is to be feared most in the human realm. Creatures (I won't call them people) who are human in appearance but not in their minds and (lacks of) hearts. An alien force is among us and it rules the world.

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Post by odbo » January 30th, 2013, 6:39 am

Guess what lies in your children's glorious future!

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Post by Banano » January 30th, 2013, 10:11 am

All_That_Is_Man wrote:
Banano wrote:Winston

why such an emotional response...
Could it be because whiny little Winnie has a face like Chewbacca's anus and therefore felt that this thread was a personal threat against him and his privilege to procreate?

Common, why everybody thinx that Winston is unattractive??

Winnie thought, "shit, these poor and dumb Filipinas are going to get extinct if we have it Bananos way meaning I will be jerking myself off to death as even white wh00res dont want me "



WHat is wrong with the idea of creating super race/s? Wouldnt mankind benefit from having disease free (or close to it) world, everyone looks like a movie star, lives long healthy life, no obesity, cancer or other hereditery diseases, IQ average would keep going up,
you go to a bar and everyone would have a fair chance of scoring a hot girl, now that privlege is only reserved for good looking guys, no need to go abroad to get laid as everyone would be within 10% of attractivness



Horsebreeders have been doing it for decades or centuries through artificial selection where only the best are allowed to breed in order to get a horse with desirable traits, speed, endurance, etc



I mean Happier Abroad is not viable long term solution for men, you see these day you can still go to some 3rd world country
where you use econimic superiority on disadvantaged poor girls, its fair trade, you get p***y she gets money, but it has no future, 20 years from now on feminism will take over entire planet, poor women will tun middle class, women in the west will not be aiming for 20% of guys, it will be more like 5% that they are after, only the best of the best will be able to get somewhere, value of p***y will grow exponentionally since more women will turn lesbian, guys will have no choices but to turn gay or monk, overseas option wont be there

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Post by Teal Lantern » January 30th, 2013, 4:58 pm

Banano wrote:WHat is wrong with the idea of creating super race/s?
Specialization comes right before extinction.
Wouldnt mankind benefit from having disease free (or close to it) world, everyone looks like a movie star, lives long healthy life, no obesity, cancer or other hereditery diseases,
It would be wonderful and disease free right up until there was some small mutation in the environment. Then you'd have big trouble. See: Irish Potato Famine.
IQ average would keep going up,
"Average" IQ is always 100. :roll:
you go to a bar and everyone would have a fair chance of scoring a hot girl, now that privlege is only reserved for good looking guys, no need to go abroad to get laid as everyone would be within 10% of attractivness
The "hot" girls would simply find a new way to differentiate.
Horsebreeders have been doing it for decades or centuries through artificial selection where only the best are allowed to breed in order to get a horse with desirable traits, speed, endurance, etc
The new nationwide healthcare plan does indeed resemble the health care plan used for old sick horses, once people get past a certain age.
You'll find that out, later.

I mean Happier Abroad is not viable long term solution for men, you see these day you can still go to some 3rd world country
where you use econimic superiority on disadvantaged poor girls, its fair trade, you get p***y she gets money, but it has no future, 20 years from now on feminism will take over entire planet, poor women will tun middle class, women in the west will not be aiming for 20% of guys, it will be more like 5% that they are after, only the best of the best will be able to get somewhere, value of p***y will grow exponentionally since more women will turn lesbian, guys will have no choices but to turn gay or monk, overseas option wont be there
20 years from now, many of us will be long past caring. The "whys" would need their own thread.
Most of the things a wife used to do are done by appliances now, for far less cost. Plus, when it's time to upgrade ... :wink:
If you want to trade cash for p***y, there will still be plenty of women willing to make that trade.
You may also be happy to know a drastic price reduction is on the way. :razz:

Smart people know old coins rise in value, old c**ts fall. :razz:
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Post by Bane » January 30th, 2013, 10:33 pm

Andrewww wrote:That's the stupidest thing I've heard.

Health and intelligence are very dependent on education. Every human being can become healthy and smart given the right conditions. Even beauty is dependent on things like nutrition, exercise and for those who can afford it, plastic surgery.
If the world is full of idiots it's because wealth is not distributed evenly. If Swiss people seem "perfect" it's because they live in one of the wealthiest countries in the world.

A few more topics like this Banano and I don't think you'll be allowed to breed if such measures were implemented I'm afraid.
Thank you. I'm glad this was finally said. The only sad part is that it actually took 4 whole posts on this thread to come to this.

Banano, put down the Satoshi Kanazawa pseudoscience articles, won't you?
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