Did feminism already happen (and fail) in Russia?

[clowny]

Saw this quote on MGTOW forum:

"For those who haven't looked at it: communist russia is what happens when men go "f**k it". A woman could simply point at a dude and say "that man is the father of my child", and he'd be on the hook for CS. It became the case that getting rich and doing well was the dumbest thing a man could do.

Result? The men drank vodka and the cities rotted."

Is this really why russia became a f'd up country?

[Teal Lantern]

Saw this quote on MGTOW forum:

"For those who haven't looked at it: communist russia is what happens when men go "f**k it". A woman could simply point at a dude and say "that man is the father of my child", and he'd be on the hook for CS. It became the case that getting rich and doing well was the dumbest thing a man could do.

Result? The men drank vodka and the cities rotted."

Is this really why russia became a f'd up country?

It wasn't the ONLY reason, but it certainly didn't help.
Did you read ... The Soviet Alimony Racket?
http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/201 ... -been.html

[Cornfed]

Yes, the Jews implemented a much more radical form of feminism during the first 20 years of their regime in Russia, which was instrumental in destroying Russian society. This convinced Russian men that marriage and families were for chumps. Now Russian women are on their own, without support from men and families and also without the state back up of their Western counterparts, and it doesn't seem that they like it much. Russia is a post feminist society.

[Tsar]

Yes, the Jews implemented a much more radical form of feminism during the first 20 years of their regime in Russia, which was instrumental in destroying Russian society. This convinced Russian men that marriage and families were for chumps. Now Russian women are on their own, without support from men and families and also without the state back up of their Western counterparts, and it doesn't seem that they like it much. Russia is a post feminist society.

What exactly is a post feminist society? A country had feminism and it became obsolete or failed? So most of the women are feminine, traditional, and nurturing?

[Cornfed]

What exactly is a post feminist society? A country had feminism and it became obsolete or failed? So most of the women are feminine, traditional, and nurturing?

A country where feminism achieved what the powers that be (i.e. the Jews) wanted it to achieve (i.e. destruction of families and social cohesion, depopulation), so they no longer bother to subsidize it. Then the women realize that feminism was a crock and try to attract husbands and restore traditional families, but the men are not interested.

[abcdavid01]

http://www.opendemocracy.net/5050/valer ... mortal-sin

[odbo]

Feminism like Communism and many other "ism's" was a Jewish trojan horse/ideology invented and sold by Talmudic "intellectuals" to subvert gentile societies and bring them under control of Judaic murderers. Women are obedient, men are not. Gender equality was implemented in Soviet Russia in the 1920s while millions (particularly Whites/Christians) were being massacred, so it must be difficult to gauge the real effects of "feminism" when there were more serious "social programs" going on like blowing up churches and mass de-population of educated people via Cheka/NKVD/KGB death squads.

All the countries under the arm of the USSR (like East Germany) had terrible birth rates. I don't know if that was a result of feminism though, more likely low-wages/poverty. Whites/East-Asians are smart enough not to have children when they cannot afford it. While in Africa, Central America and other places populated by dimwits, it's common to have upwards of 5 children when a mother can barely feed herself.

[ladislav]

Feminism must have a fertile cultural ground to grow in. In an intellectual, service oriented society it will because men do white collar jobs mostly and are less physically macho. It's kind of hard to do in a more agrarian country or heavily industrial country which is what Russia was. You wanna be equal to a man? Well, go ahead and plow the field behind the horse. Or if you don't like it, stay home and let me do it while you take care of the kids.
Another thing is invasions and wars. Russia had those for centuries. England ( bombed a bit but not invaded, at least not recently), Scandinavia etc were not invaded or at least not to the point of having cities raised to the ground and people shot in the streets. So, there is less respect for men as people who put their lives on the line for women and children to be safe.
Same in the USA- no foreign invasions and no bombings/sieges except in the movies and one small one on 9/11. So, women do not really see men as defenders of families, and the military is not respected.
Also, we need to distinguish gender equality which basically means women doing the same work as men ( except fighting in the military) and getting paid the same salary - why is that a bad thing?- from acting and dressing like men and treating men like dirt. The latter never happened in Russia.

[momopi]

Communist ideology strongly supports feminism. However neither communism or feminism itself have the largest impact on an expat's SMV (sexual market value).

Mao spent decades imposing his ideology on China. Women were told to avoid make-up and other corrupting influences, instead dressing in pants and wielding AK-47's. Yet less than 20 years after his death, Mainland Chinese women were marying the once-bitter rivals from Taiwan in droves.

Sometime in the future, when coastal Chinese cities and its residents become even wealthier than Taiwan, you can expect Taiwanese women to export themselves to China.

[Wolfeye]

I second what ladislav said. I know for a fact that Americans have kind of a bullshit view of how things can get violent & as such, that "male" trait isn't valued quite so much. You don't have to convince a Russian that someone can instigate or that one disaster can lead to another. Americans see that as kind of a "low" or "barbaric" thing, unless they can ass-kiss the military by approving of this prevention/revenge/survival/fix-it skills.

If the women are trying to be men & act like them, then the same mistakes will present themselves. They don't always seem
To be looking to compete with men & outperform them, sometimes it seems more like they're looking to be liked & assume them men like man-stuff & that's the limit. It's not a totally off-base deduction, since a lot of guys do act like that (including bullshit war metaphors & pretending everything's a life-or-death situation- so there's a high chance that they'll screw up & die when it is that serious, because they don't size things up accurately).

[Adama]

The real difference is that Russia ran out of money. They simply didn't have enough money to fully implement and enforce feminism, and it is still more or less lawless compared to the West.