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Postby clowny » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:52 am

leavingusa wrote:Rape in USA is essentially a property crime, taking p***y without paying. It cannot be a crime against the father since the father was ripped off a long time ago.


Genital mutilation in USA is essentially a property crime -- stealing a healthy, valuable part of someone else's body without their qualified informed consent is an incursion of property rights.
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Postby MrPeabody » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:26 am

I actually think that the Rooshv forum is the best run website on the Internet and has come up with the solution to taming the nutty behavior the anonimity encourages on the Internet. They have a zero tolerance policy for trolls. As a result, there are actually serious discussions and some quit useful threads with good information. It also forces the same manly discipline that you would get interacting daily face to face with men in a gym - guys are naturally polite because rudness or dramatic behavior can have serious consequences.
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Postby Anti-American » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:59 am

MrPeabody wrote:I actually think that the Rooshv forum is the best run website on the Internet and has come up with the solution to taming the nutty behavior the anonimity encourages on the Internet. They have a zero tolerance policy for trolls. As a result, there are actually serious discussions and some quit useful threads with good information. It also forces the same manly discipline that you would get interacting daily face to face with men in a gym - guys are naturally polite because rudness or dramatic behavior can have serious consequences.


http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... ing-spree/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... his-blogs/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... or-virgin/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... a-roosh-v/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2012/12/23 ... shv-style/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... a-roosh-v/

http://postmasculine.com/forum/Thread-a ... hV-website

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201015

http://www.aaronsleazy.com/forum/viewto ... =15&t=1268

http://puahate.com/showthread.php?t=29168

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/05/2 ... -business/

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/11/1 ... -revealed/

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/08/1 ... ing-world/
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Postby zboy1 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:50 am

Anti-American wrote:
MrPeabody wrote:I actually think that the Rooshv forum is the best run website on the Internet and has come up with the solution to taming the nutty behavior the anonimity encourages on the Internet. They have a zero tolerance policy for trolls. As a result, there are actually serious discussions and some quit useful threads with good information. It also forces the same manly discipline that you would get interacting daily face to face with men in a gym - guys are naturally polite because rudness or dramatic behavior can have serious consequences.


http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... ing-spree/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... his-blogs/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... or-virgin/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... a-roosh-v/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2012/12/23 ... shv-style/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... a-roosh-v/

http://postmasculine.com/forum/Thread-a ... hV-website

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201015

http://www.aaronsleazy.com/forum/viewto ... =15&t=1268

http://puahate.com/showthread.php?t=29168

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/05/2 ... -business/

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/11/1 ... -revealed/

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/08/1 ... ing-world/


Wow. So many haters of RooshV, LOL!
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Postby Cornfed » Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:32 am

clowny wrote:Some of you guys have clearly become disconnected from reality, suggesting that it should be perfectly fine to rape women. Would it be okay if your wife, your mother or your sister was raped by some dude who thought just like you?

If I were married and someone had sex with my wife this would constitute a serious crime against my property rights. If she were "raped" then if anything this would be a mitigating circumstance, since she would not be being corrupted in the process. The ancient Greeks thought consensual adultery was a worse crime than the rape of a married woman for this reason. As to female relatives, if they were raised in a feminist country they are likely to be pig sluts committing horrendous crimes like other females in those countries, so it doesn't matter what happens to them, and anyway there is no reason to think that they should control when sex happens or that sex is a big deal. Here is a good treatment of the subject, although once again it doesn't go far enough.
http://bobstruth.blogspot.com/2006/04/has-any-female-ever-been-hurt-by-rape.html
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Postby marklambo » Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:21 am

zboy1 wrote:
Anti-American wrote:
MrPeabody wrote:I actually think that the Rooshv forum is the best run website on the Internet and has come up with the solution to taming the nutty behavior the anonimity encourages on the Internet. They have a zero tolerance policy for trolls. As a result, there are actually serious discussions and some quit useful threads with good information. It also forces the same manly discipline that you would get interacting daily face to face with men in a gym - guys are naturally polite because rudness or dramatic behavior can have serious consequences.


http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... ing-spree/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... his-blogs/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... or-virgin/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... a-roosh-v/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2012/12/23 ... shv-style/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... a-roosh-v/

http://postmasculine.com/forum/Thread-a ... hV-website

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201015

http://www.aaronsleazy.com/forum/viewto ... =15&t=1268

http://puahate.com/showthread.php?t=29168

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/05/2 ... -business/

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/11/1 ... -revealed/

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/08/1 ... ing-world/


Wow. So many haters of RooshV, LOL!


yea, that's exactly what they are...haters because they're jealous that they're stuck with obese feminist trolls to date. Everything here in the west is about "your game". It's really stupid and playing this "game" gets old real fast. If you have to play so much "game" to get a woman, then that should tell you the kind of woman you will attract and get.....a typical game playing woman that will play games right back at you. Just a waste of time.

Whatever happened to "hey, you're attractive, I like you, let's get to know each other"
Too bad that approach doesn't work here in the west.
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Postby Anti-American » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:28 pm

marklambo wrote:
zboy1 wrote:
Anti-American wrote:
MrPeabody wrote:I actually think that the Rooshv forum is the best run website on the Internet and has come up with the solution to taming the nutty behavior the anonimity encourages on the Internet. They have a zero tolerance policy for trolls. As a result, there are actually serious discussions and some quit useful threads with good information. It also forces the same manly discipline that you would get interacting daily face to face with men in a gym - guys are naturally polite because rudness or dramatic behavior can have serious consequences.


http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... ing-spree/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... his-blogs/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... or-virgin/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... a-roosh-v/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2012/12/23 ... shv-style/

http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2013/02/14 ... a-roosh-v/

http://postmasculine.com/forum/Thread-a ... hV-website

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201015

http://www.aaronsleazy.com/forum/viewto ... =15&t=1268

http://puahate.com/showthread.php?t=29168

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/05/2 ... -business/

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/11/1 ... -revealed/

http://reesarch.wordpress.com/2012/08/1 ... ing-world/


Wow. So many haters of RooshV, LOL!


yea, that's exactly what they are...haters because they're jealous that they're stuck with obese feminist trolls to date. Everything here in the west is about "your game". It's really stupid and playing this "game" gets old real fast. If you have to play so much "game" to get a woman, then that should tell you the kind of woman you will attract and get.....a typical game playing woman that will play games right back at you. Just a waste of time.

Whatever happened to "hey, you're attractive, I like you, let's get to know each other"
Too bad that approach doesn't work here in the west.


RooshV is nothing to be jealous of really.
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Postby FinalShots » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:37 pm

the problem I have with the roosh v forum is that especially in the travel section, there is a strong spread of misinformation and no means to contain it

if you read the travel section on there, you will think women fall to their feet everytime a black man goes to any country. Any means to refute that statement (backed up with facts) results in a ban.

Registration is only open on the 1st of every month. Race threads (except for those concerning Black men), threads about looks, and all of that are not allowed. Roosh himself makes up a lot of his experiences and same could be said of the regular posters on his forum.

It is by far the worst forum to go to for posting about PUA.

I recommend the Don Juan forums.
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Postby Anti-American » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:29 pm

FinalShots wrote:the problem I have with the roosh v forum is that especially in the travel section, there is a strong spread of misinformation and no means to contain it

if you read the travel section on there, you will think women fall to their feet everytime a black man goes to any country. Any means to refute that statement (backed up with facts) results in a ban.

Registration is only open on the 1st of every month. Race threads (except for those concerning Black men), threads about looks, and all of that are not allowed. Roosh himself makes up a lot of his experiences and same could be said of the regular posters on his forum.

It is by far the worst forum to go to for posting about PUA.

I recommend the Don Juan forums.


Yes, RooshV is a fraud.
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Postby fschmidt » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:30 am

fschmidt wrote:Looking at the niceguy homepage, I see that there is a post that I have been banned. Of course I can't read it. It's here:

http://www.the-niceguy.com/forum/index. ... opic=58480

If anyone on this forum can access this, I would like to see a copy of it.

By now this thread should no longer be active. Can someone give me a summary of what was said?
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Postby drealm » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:09 am

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Post 1 - Solaris - Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:26 AM

Chaps, I'm afraid fschmidt has been shown the door. For some time now, his posts have been becoming more and more extreme in their nature. A number of members have brought up this concern to myself privately and independently, and I have, up until this point, advised patience. However, I'm afraid the line has been crossed. After reporting a post in which coldfire called him out for claiming that "the rape of most American women is justified because there is no other legal means for many men to get sex in America", I do not believe he is able to constructively contribute to this board. As coldfire pointed out, he does not believe in ex post facto punishments, and neither is this a policy of this forum, however, by choosing to report coldfire's post to the moderators, fschmidt has, I believe, attempted to use authority against a legitimate challenge to views which he holds. Combined with those particular views, such action represents a threat to the integrity of the board.

As you all know, we try to give members as much freedom of expression here as possible, with the minor requests that no minor pornography is posted and that violence is not expressly advocated. However, we have been through this kind of brinkmanship with MikeeUSA years ago, which culminated in a thread about how it should be perfectly OK to rape your 12 year old wife. This time, we will not be travelling that path. Thank you all for your attention.

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Post 2 - Nightstorm - Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:57 AM

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After reporting a post in which coldfire called him out for claiming that "the rape of most American women is justified because there is no other legal means for many men to get sex in America".


Yeah, thats a line crosser alright. It would be akin to say, its okay to rob banks because poor people don't have enough money. I honestly don't know why he stayed around as long as he did, because I remember a convo with him way back, maybe a year ago possibly, and he seemed like he didn't like MGTOW's.

But why hang around people who you don't like? Beats me.

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Post 3 - Phloridian - Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:06 PM

All we need is the femosphere or the press to selectively broadcast post like that to undermine the entire men's movement, not just this site.

He can easily re-register under a new name, but the precedent is set, any advocacy of violence or illegality does us all a disservice. We can agitate, complain, and even promote civil disorder, but violence over the line.

Thanks to the posters that tipped off the mods on this.

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Post 4 - Iron John - Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:20 PM

Good riddance to bad rubbish

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Post 5 - Eli Johnson - Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:44 PM

Gotta go gotta go.

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Post 6 - kphett - Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:51 PM

Good job of flushing the the forum of that turd

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Post 7 - nigeles175d - Posted 23 March 2013 - 02:27 PM

fschmidt appeared to be searching for some religion he could use to control women. He was hostile to NG's forum and MGTOW and misrepresented it on several occasions. I don't know if he wanted to create his own religion and gain followers, but I vaguely remember him offering to recruit software engineers some years ago, and I worry now that such could have come under his financial control. I have had the misfortune in a few cases during my life to have people I knew go mentally ill, and I wonder if this is the case here. As has been posted already, if he hates us so much, why would he keep trying to recruit people from here? Why would he not just ignore the forum, unless perhaps he sought to take advantage of those poor souls seeking help here? It would be quite easy to take advantage of distraught blue-pillers, and I think much of the PUA community does that. I think feminists do that with women who are also upset.

As for ex post facto judgements, the judgement was not necessarily related to the original fact, nor necessarily by the same moderator was it? At a later date a new judgement was made in the light of new information. In any case, in my view it is always good to reserve the right to change an earlier decision, just in case it was wrong, or bad. Surely the aim is to make the best decision possible. This decision does make it clear that we wish no harm to women, despite feminist quote mining out of context. I have sometimes regretted keeping my word, just for the sake of abiding by "my word is my bond", only to qualify a bad choice/decision as a result of it. From a wider viewpoint, it is best to make the good choice at the earliest opportunity and correct the bad earlier choice.

I'm no psychologist/psychiatrist or whatever, and lacking face to face visual contact much information is lost in communication, but I do think he was going off the rails somewhat, just a little, and becoming more and more dogmatic with his posts as he went along.

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Post 8 - xeab - Posted 23 March 2013 - 04:07 PM

I found the idea of religion interesting, as it was the means of unity of purpose for most of human history. Until we got this modern, secular religion we currently and with misguided pride suffer under.

I find the idea of using it for the purposes of rape repugnant in the extreme.

We're looking to stop the abuse of power, not perpetuate it in another form.

Gotta go... gotta go.

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Post 9 - nigeles175d - Posted 23 March 2013 - 04:21 PM

xeab, on 23 March 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:
I found the idea of religion interesting, as it was the means of unity of purpose for most of human history. Until we got this modern, secular religion we currently and with misguided pride suffer under.


As an act of desperation to make the world nice, I have often thought religion as a coercive tool might be helpful. But, there are many who would cite that religion has been abused and caused wars etc.

Nowadays I think I fear ignorance more. The truth may be ugly at times, but knowledge gives one hope and opportunity for defence.

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Post 10 - Tiggerpaws - Posted 23 March 2013 - 04:37 PM

I am not into violence.
I'm not a hippie either, I will defend myself
best I can, but just mindless violence ---- No.

I'd rather sit in my playroom and be safe than
go out and look for (or worry about having to avoid) Trouble.

I would rather sit in my garden in the sand pit
playing with my toys than trifle with reships and
marriage and junk like that, which cood lead
to violence, why bother with that when u can
sit at home and play happily?

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Post 11 - xeab - Posted 23 March 2013 - 05:24 PM

nigeles175d, on 23 March 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

xeab, on 23 March 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:
I found the idea of religion interesting, as it was the means of unity of purpose for most of human history. Until we got this modern, secular religion we currently and with misguided pride suffer under.

As an act of desperation to make the world nice, I have often thought religion as a coercive tool might be helpful. But, there are many who would cite that religion has been abused and caused wars etc.

Nowadays I think I fear ignorance more. The truth may be ugly at times, but knowledge gives one hope and opportunity for defence.


Everything has been abused and caused wars.

You'd have to change our DNA (or perhaps, more accurately, the amount of power you allow to be concentrated in a single spot) to change that.

Our current little self absorbed religion is getting set up to cause quite a nasty one. We shall see if we've got the sense to avoid i

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Post 12 - Juro 3 - Posted 23 March 2013 - 07:57 PM

It really sucks to see yet another member leave

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Post 13 - outlaw2747 - Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:30 PM

If he was indeed a threat to the integrity of men's rights and causes, then I say you made a good choice. Tis a shame he had to go overboard like that and get booted.

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Post 14 - Solaris - Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:24 PM

Juro 3, on 23 March 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:
It really sucks to see yet another member leave.


Yes, it is. He's just gotten so much more aggressive lately that I didn't feel there was any alternative I'm afraid.

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Post 15 - yohan - Posted 24 March 2013 - 12:42 AM

During the last few months FSCHMIDT made rather derogatory comments about our forum and about the Men's Rights Movement in general and I was asking sometimes, why he was here with us.

He is also banned at Antimisandry. It's not only our forum where he had some problems.

His comments are often confusing, religiously and politically misguided - I do not understand what he really wants.

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Post 16 - Sociopathic Revelation - Posted 24 March 2013 - 02:02 AM

nigeles175d, on 23 March 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:
fschmidt appeared to be searching for some religion he could use to control women. He was hostile to NG's forum and MGTOW and misrepresented it on several occasions. I don't know if he wanted to create his own religion and gain followers, but I vaguely remember him offering to recruit software engineers some years ago, and I worry now that such could have come under his financial control. I have had the misfortune in a few cases during my life to have people I knew go mentally ill, and I wonder if this is the case here. As has been posted already, if he hates us so much, why would he keep trying to recruit people from here? Why would he not just ignore the forum, unless perhaps he sought to take advantage of those poor souls seeking help here? It would be quite easy to take advantage of distraught blue-pillers, and I think much of the PUA community does that. I think feminists do that with women who are also upset.

As for ex post facto judgements, the judgement was not necessarily related to the original fact, nor necessarily by the same moderator was it? At a later date a new judgement was made in the light of new information. In any case, in my view it is always good to reserve the right to change an earlier decision, just in case it was wrong, or bad. Surely the aim is to make the best decision possible. This decision does make it clear that we wish no harm to women, despite feminist quote mining out of context. I have sometimes regretted keeping my word, just for the sake of abiding by "my word is my bond", only to qualify a bad choice/decision as a result of it. From a wider viewpoint, it is best to make the good choice at the earliest opportunity and correct the bad earlier choice.

I'm no psychologist/psychiatrist or whatever, and lacking face to face visual contact much information is lost in communication, but I do think he was going off the rails somewhat, just a little, and becoming more and more dogmatic with his posts as he went along.



Well, I think you mentioned what I was seeing in him via how his idea of religion would able men to control women somehow. Even from the beginning, I thought fschmidt's plan was a pipe dream----you have to instill such values of any credo from a person's formative years. If you don't have that, and can't find people who are more suggestible, then acting like an arrogant prick is no way to garner anyone you want to win over. Of course, he wouldn't listen because he didn't think many people here had a lot of credibility.

Hell, even a good salesman (and I think that so many religious figures have that type of charisma and pitch to sell their spirituality---literally, even) know that you don't break character easily and act like your customer is highly important. That applies to spiritual figures as well. I'm very critical of organized religion, but if you can't draw in an amount of devotees you have to look in the mirror to see what is wrong. fschmidt was not willing to do that. I don't know if it was out of egotism, self-righteousness, and a tad of delusions of grandeur but it's probably a combination of those things and more.

As far as him posting on a board that he incessantly disagreed with, I think he secretly wanted to harvest MGTOW-minded men and deeply resented that posters resisted him. In all seriousness, it is a form of masochism when you are constantly at odds others and yet can't stay away from bickering and in-fighting, especially when none of it is really working. That seems to go against his haughty attitude, but often histrionics have a modicum of self-doubt and anger when not getting their way.

Yeah, I did call him out more then once . . . I found him rather insufferable. I can't say if he's really like how he wrote, I wouldn't like the guy very much if he is akin to that offline. And his gaps in logic, his "my way or the highway" mindset, how he painted MGTOW as destructive and foolish rather than rational and understandable were getting tedious. Interesting how he believed it was a selfish philosophy but would not acknowledge his own hypocrisy in that matter, and that his own beliefs were riddled with cognitive dissonance and personal bias.

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Post 17 - Sociopathic Revelation - Posted 24 March 2013 - 02:09 AM

Juro 3, on 23 March 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:
It really sucks to see yet another member leave.


I can't say that I'll miss him. It's one thing to have to reckon with someone going off the deep end, it's another to reluctantly remove a poster that contributes to discussion with different and challenging views.

fschmidt wasn't heavy on the latter as much as he was displaying the former attributes. He was not provoking people out of principle or questioning things at the core, it was antagonistic and embittered without him realizing his own problems with his thoughts and behavior.

Interesting how he dubbed this place an echochamber and how he loathed MGTOW over time, but he couldn't stay away.

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Post 18 - Sociopathic Revelation - Posted 24 March 2013 - 02:15 AM

Nightstorm, on 23 March 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:
But why hang around people who you don't like? Beats me.


I've seen the type in real life. They claim they hate their social circle they are trying to influence, yet they want to be an integral, important part of that circle they are jealous of and lambast continually. That's a sign of someone who wants something from those situations and people of one way or another.

Despite his conceited, pseudo-elitist attitude, outside of wanting to get converts from this place, I wondered if he envied men who were legitimately GTOW.

He would never, ever admit that, however . . .

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Post 19 - nigeles175d - Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:55 AM

I thought the whole point of MGTOW was to allow everybody to be his own person, and to do his own thing. It allows us all to be different, to be ourselves, or even to be the same, when we wish to choose to do so. The idea being not to decide what is best for others, and to allow them to decide themselves what is best for them, and vice versa.

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Post 20 - Nightstorm - Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:04 AM

nigeles175d, on 24 March 2013 - 05:55 AM, said:
I thought the whole point of MGTOW was to allow everybody to be his own person, and to do his own thing. It allows us all to be different, to be ourselves, or even to be the same, when we wish to choose to do so. The idea being not to decide what is best for others, and to allow them to decide themselves what is best for them, and vice versa.


No one here is denying him the right to his opinion, what we are denying him is the right to his opinion if it imposes violence on others. At that point, its not just himself, but the entire board could be shut down, and that's just a selfish move. Then no one would get a opinion.

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Post 21 - MatthewF - Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:11 AM

I can't say that it surprises me that he became more extreme as time went on. On the answersingenesis "Dinosaurs In The Bible" post he showed his colors as a creationist and fundamentalist christian by trotting out the same canards I have heard time and time again. He also seemed to have a thing for the hatred of atheists as well where he tried to say that atheists hated God and nontheism/atheism are two seperate things . Also he liked to trash pretty much anything that didn't fit within his worldview.

Typically most fundies like him tend to alienate themselves as time goes on.

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Post 22 - Mechanized - Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:02 AM

MatthewF, on 24 March 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:
I can't say that it surprises me that he became more extreme as time went on. On the answersingenesis "Dinosaurs In The Bible" post he showed his colors as a creationist and fundamentalist christian by trotting out the same canards I have heard time and time again. He also seemed to have a thing for the hatred of atheists as well where he tried to say that atheists hated God and nontheism/atheism are two seperate things . Also he liked to trash pretty much anything that didn't fit within his worldview.


Typically most fundies like him tend to alienate themselves as time goes on.

This type of behavior appears to be exist among both "fundamentalist Christians" as well as "fundamentalist atheists". His frustration with the current sociopolitical situation seems to have led him down a dangerous ideological path. Basically, it appears his pseudo-religious convictions were colored and provoked by said frustration. Tragic.

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Post 23 - nigeles175d - Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:11 AM

Nightstorm, on 24 March 2013 - 08:04 AM, said:
nigeles175d, on 24 March 2013 - 05:55 AM, said:
I thought the whole point of MGTOW was to allow everybody to be his own person, and to do his own thing. It allows us all to be different, to be ourselves, or even to be the same, when we wish to choose to do so. The idea being not to decide what is best for others, and to allow them to decide themselves what is best for them, and vice versa.

No one here is denying him the right to his opinion, what we are denying him is the right to his opinion if it imposes violence on others. At that point, its not just himself, but the entire board could be shut down, and that's just a selfish move. Then no one would get a opinion.


It appears I did not make my post clear. My post was not in defence of fschmidt, but in defence of the rest of us here. fschmidt had misrepresented MGTOW, and he did not wish to allow the rest of us to go our own way. The only way was his way, and that way was to be for everyone. I tried to point out that MGTOW was for each of us to decide on his own.

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Post 24 - torch2010 - Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:01 AM

Saying women being raped is justified is just as bad as tfl'er bill saying women who are killed by men for rejecting them is justified.

Good riddance

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Post 25 - yohan - Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:16 AM

The idea of MGTOW is simple: To go your own way without bothering or harming other people and even if badly treated in the past by women and their manginas do your best to be free of hate, avoid to harm yourself too. Don't make it worse for you and others as it is bad enough already. Enjoy your new life!

Every man has to decide by himself what he is doing, his decision, his risk, his responsibility. -

About myself, after a bad time in Europe I moved away, now with Asian wife, 2 daughters, 1 Filipina fostergirl - working in Japan, with my own rooms in Thailand, no problems so far of any kind since over 35 years...

And still there are feminists and manginas out who call me a misogynist... and believe me when reading such comments about me I can only laugh...

It was nigeles175d, who said something about 'envy' - I think this is very true, after going my own way (and this was not easy at the beginning for me), some certain people (including some relatives) left over in Europe - even today - are calling me up with any kind of swear words you can imagine.

I really can only laugh as an answer - well, it is not me, who is living in a basement with 3 children from 2 fathers from East Europe and from Turkey (a bit cold now in Europe if you don't have enough money for heating), it is not me who is totally bankrupt because of alimony and child support, it is not me whose children were taken away and who lost HIS house... Live with it, not my problem.

Violence is not an answer - it makes everything worse. Maybe they all will call you a coward, but avoid any quarrel and move on quickly. Look out in this world for entire new people. Don't look back. Never come back to the place you left for a better life.

Feminism is very different from MGTOW. Feminism is about pressing money out from others, usually men (ex-husbands and fathers) but also claiming benefits from governments and special rights and demanding unjustified payouts accusing employers. Feminism is basically a system made for very lazy people.

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Post 26 - rogue wolf1 - Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:30 AM

Juro 3, on 23 March 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:
It really sucks to see yet another member leave.


I'll come right out and say it. The man is a nutcase.

I've butted heads with him over the years just like I've butted heads with almost everyone on the forum, it's my nature. Nevertheless, his entire worldview is that the world is literally coming to an end because antisocial hypernerds can't get laid so it is up to him to build a Noah's Ark of like minded men, or in other words...men that think just like him, to survive the coming stone age. If you think in any way differently from him you're an amoral fool that will die horribly in the coming catastrophe. He has all the answers. Any suggestion to even improve his ideas or make them more palatable are shot down or ignored.

I am in no way sad to see him kicked. It takes some ego to openly insult everyone around you while asking for their help.

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Post 27 - Sociopathic Revelation - Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:37 AM

rogue wolf1, on 24 March 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:
Juro 3, on 23 March 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:
It really sucks to see yet another member leave.

I'll come right out and say it. The man is a nutcase.

I've butted heads with him over the years just like I've butted heads with almost everyone on the forum, it's my nature. Nevertheless, his entire worldview is that the world is literally coming to an end because antisocial hypernerds can't get laid so it is up to him to build a Noah's Ark of like minded men, or in other words...men that think just like him, to survive the coming stone age. If you think in any way differently from him you're an amoral fool that will die horribly in the coming catastrophe. He has all the answers. Any suggestion to even improve his ideas or make them more palatable are shot down or ignored.

I am in no way sad to see him kicked. It takes some ego to openly insult everyone around you while asking for their help.


You need not butt heads with me on this issue, that's for certain. You got hit the right notes here perfectly about him

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Post 28 - Gengyo - Posted 25 March 2013 - 12:34 AM

MatthewF, on 24 March 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:
I can't say that it surprises me that he became more extreme as time went on. On the answersingenesis "Dinosaurs In The Bible" post he showed his colors as a creationist and fundamentalist christian by trotting out the same canards I have heard time and time again. He also seemed to have a thing for the hatred of atheists as well where he tried to say that atheists hated God and nontheism/atheism are two seperate things . Also he liked to trash pretty much anything that didn't fit within his worldview.

Typically most fundies like him tend to alienate themselves as time goes on.


I'm a creationist and fundementalist too for a number of reasons, but I don't act like that. I've got my mean streaks, and things that people think I'm crazy for thinking, but I see Self-defense as the only acceptable form of violence... and even then it's still not ideal. I think what has happened in a lot of fundamental circles is that they've gotten this whole entitlement culture that has seeped into them. Seriously... I've been to a lot of Churches that seem to think if you pray for X you will get X if you believe hard enough. Rarely is there any mention of personal action necessary.

I remember back when I first joined thinking that he seemed a bit... volatile, and while I've only been here in passing lately, I had noticed some posts that were a bit over the top. I don't like seeing members go, but when one bad apple can spoil the bunch it's much better to remove a single rotten fruit.
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Thanks drealm. What a bunch of rationalizing morons.
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Postby Maker55 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:36 pm

The textbook psychopaths have made themselves known in this thread.

Justifying rape???

As bad as western women are, it can NEVER be justified to rape a woman.
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Postby Teal Lantern » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:34 pm

Maker55 wrote:The textbook psychopaths have made themselves known in this thread.

Justifying rape???

As bad as western women are, it can NEVER be justified to rape a woman.


... especially considering what you might catch, for your trouble. :shock:
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Postby fschmidt » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:15 pm

Maker55 wrote:The textbook psychopaths have made themselves known in this thread.

Justifying rape???

As bad as western women are, it can NEVER be justified to rape a woman.

The whole topic of rape is just completely off topic in this thread. You and everyone else who commented on rape in this thread miss the point which is that MGTOW are hypocritical scum.
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