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Postby zacb » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:22 am

Anyone heard of it? This lifestyle has encouraged me to go abroad to seek freedom, and is interesting. Bascially, it states that in order to have freedom, we need to create an alternative system within the shell of this one, based on voluntary exchange. It also encourage syou to improve your life, and forget about others problems (in a good way). I am trying to reduce my statist foot print, but it is hard, but I am workin gon it. Any thoughts?
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Postby The_Adventurer » Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:12 pm

The whole idea of counter economics seems unattainable aslong as currencies are state controlled. This goes doubly so for the traveling, online entreprenuer. This businessman must rely on services such as Paypal or Google Checkout, CCbill, and others that, while they may not be state controlled, are certainly in the service of the state. It stands to reason, then, that the state could conceivably shut off your income sources on a whim, or freeze your digital assets on a moments notice.

While I do believe a great deal of freedom is possible by living abroad, any work in a global economy will certainly be, to some degree, under control of the state, even if indirectly. I still find it to be far greater than living in the west and working directly for a stateside company as a wage earner.
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Postby abcdavid01 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:46 pm

"I'm actually not sure how much money I have, but I do know how many pounds of money I have."

Honestly, as a Libertarian of sorts I find agorism to be ridiculous and even dangerous. One's own birth isn't voluntary.

I would urge you to go to the source of Libertarianism: F.A. Hayek

Hayek's The Fatal Conceit was his life's work and it convinced me to reject the Murray Rothbard/Anarco-Capitalist strains.

Family is a socialist institution.

My Libertarianism is the kind the Libertarian establishment (yes, it exists) is either completely ignorant of or tries to suppress.

You are a Christian, no?

In Heretics, Chesterton almost makes a prophecy of the misuse of the word “gay.â€￾ He writes of “the very powerful and very desolate philosophy of Oscar Wilde. It is the carpe diem religion.â€￾ Carpe diem means “seize the day,â€￾ do whatever you want and don’t think about the consequences, live only for the moment. “But the carpe diem religion is not the religion of happy people, but of very unhappy people.â€￾ There is a hopelessness as well as a haplessness to it. When sex is only a momentary pleasure, when it offers nothing beyond itself, it brings no fulfillment. It is literally lifeless. And as Chesterton writes in his book St. Francis of Assisi, the minute sex ceases to be a servant, it becomes a tyrant. This is perhaps the most profound analysis of the problem of homosexuals: they are slaves to sex. They are trying to “pervert the future and unmake the past.â€￾ They need to be set free.


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Agorism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Voluntaryism and most mainstream sects of Libertarianism are, along with Marxism, Carpe Diem religions.

I'm someone who would stand against moral relativism.
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Postby clowny » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:09 am

The_Adventurer wrote:The whole idea of counter economics seems unattainable aslong as currencies are state controlled. This goes doubly so for the traveling, online entreprenuer. This businessman must rely on services such as Paypal or Google Checkout, CCbill, and others that, while they may not be state controlled, are certainly in the service of the state. It stands to reason, then, that the state could conceivably shut off your income sources on a whim, or freeze your digital assets on a moments notice.

While I do believe a great deal of freedom is possible by living abroad, any work in a global economy will certainly be, to some degree, under control of the state, even if indirectly. I still find it to be far greater than living in the west and working directly for a stateside company as a wage earner.


I have a theory that litecoin (or something similar to it) will change the world for the better. Litecoin is an alternative cryptocurrency based on Bitcoin that is not government regulated. The bankers keep their power and control over society through fiat currency, but when these alternate, decentralised currencies become popular with the mainstream, the government and bankers will lose their primary means of power and control.
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Postby Cornfed » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:15 am

As well as an alternative currency system, it would be desirable to develop an alternative property system. As long as we accept the word of evil regimes as to who owns what, any alternative currency system will only be about trading intangibles on the margins and an auxiliary to the Jews'/banksters' currency system.
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