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Postby OTB » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:00 am

I've been wanting to post this for some time now. I think it's the right time to bring this forth due to a conversation I had with a gym buddy at the gym earlier.

To make a long story short, there was a good looking light-skinned black girl working out in some black tights with a round, thick butt. I kept looking at her and was thinking about saying something to her. Something simple. So my buddy comes over and says you see that ass on her. I said yes I do. Right after I said that he said they like to come in here wearing tight stuff but then when you look it's a problem. I said I know man. It pisses me off. Tights all up their ass crack and then if you keep looking you're a pervert. He said he was thinking about saying something to her but she had this evil look on her face so he decided to leave her alone. I said you took the words right out of my mouth. That's the reason I didn't say anything. She had this pissed off look that was so obvious. It was all in the eyes. We continued to talk and he was breaking things down about women in this part of the country. He said these women up here, he's from Texas, love men who treat them like dirt. They love it! You can't treat a women nicely up here. They don't like that. If you dog them out that's when they'll come running after you. We also talked about how getting a woman is based on what you got going on in your pockets. He commented and said it's all about the money. I told him the women in California are the same way. He said yeah, it's not about who you are but what you have. He's a cool cat. He definitely knows what time it is with these women.

But the main topic I want to focus on is the notion that you're a pervert if you look at a woman's butt or continuously look at her body. I'M SICK OF IT. I'm a man and if I see something I like, especially when a girl deliberately wears something to look sexy, I'm going to look. Period. Is it a crime to admire the shape of woman's body? NO! They want attention but then when they get it it makes them feel uncomfortable or objectified.

To go along with this I've seen this written in profiles on OkCupid on a few occasions. "Please no perverts." My blood temperature would rise 3 degrees when spotting this. I HATE when women say that.

WE ARE SEXUAL BEINGS. Who's not extremely sexual unless you're psychologically damaged from a personal experience. Women try to act as if they're so prude. Women are just as horny as men, if not more than men. Don't buy into their lie that they are less horny or desire sex less than a man. Women have a way of selling illusions and you have to be careful to not buy them.

I'm just really tired of women acting as if something is wrong with us for being men. We're men. We are wired to be attracted to feminine women. We like curves. Well, most men. We like softness. We like long hair and nice eyes. I'm not offended when a woman is checking me out.

Why is it so normal to gawk at an expensive car, a house, amazing looking architecture, or a landscape but when it comes to the female body you're considered a pervert by women? I could go on but I'll stop here. I'm just tired of being made to feel like I'm doing something wrong when I'm looking at a woman's body. This is just something else that irritates me about living in the US. I'm sure you all can agree.
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Postby Tsar » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:08 am

I feel the same way. When a girl wears revealing clothing, tight clothing, skin hugging clothing, or you go to a beach and look at attractive women in bikinis and a man looks at her, he's called a pervert. In America men have to be careful not to look too long at an attractive girl because he will be called a pervert, a creep, or a stalker.

Am I correct to assume looking at a girl is natural abroad and a way a man flirts with a girl?
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Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:38 am

This is what I go through day-in and day-out.
This is why I used to grope women on the iron horse back in the day.
I felt up women in Brazil too on public trans and never got smacked nor cursed out. If they reject me while I'm doing it to them, they ask nicely to stop and then I do or they move my hand away nicely.

Actually, in addendum, late in 2011 I was feeling up a nice thick but far from fat Black (or maybe she was West Indian because this had taken place on the 2-train in The Bronx) cougar while she was with young daughter but the young daughter wasn't paying attention. So the mother and I were sledged into the door mini-corridor and I was rubbing on her.

What's funny is that I saw a wedding ring on her finger and she got off the train after two express stops; I guess she realized she was doing wrong and hadn't been touched in a good way in quite a while. I was kind of waiting for her to scream for the cops, but she didn't.

Back in the 90s *rolls his tongue lol'ing*, I used feel up all nationalities of girls on the iron horse except really ghetto stateside Latinas and really ghetto Black women.

On the R-train going through Astoria, again, me and this Middle-Eastern woman (looked mid-20s built semi-petite but nothing fat on her) kind of stuck in the door corridor and I kept bumping my butt into the Middle-Eastern looking woman, then she started to bump her a.ss back and forth into me every time the train's momentum naturally made us do so and after the 5th obvious bump by her I began to feel her up everytime her bump came onto mine...she rubbed my hand a bit when the train stopped at Steinway (that was the intentional stop to get off (no pun intended)) and then acted like nada happened.

She had her suitcase with her going to the airport.

One more case in Queens was when a Dominican chick was walking and she had dark pantyhose on and her tight jean-dress skirt WAS RIDING UP WITH A.SS almost damn near exposed while she was speed-walking (I guess she wanted me to play catch-up)... Yeah NYC back in 2011/2012. LOL

Remember guys: NYC is Jack "Flash" Shockwave Factor central! We still flash people on the trains even though 2 years ago they began cracking down on that due to the advent of those stupid cam/video phone features now!

PS part II: The iron horses were jammed-pack. I hardly groped in lesser-than-dense hours riding the iron horse.
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Re: You're a pervert!

Postby Teal Lantern » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:51 am

OTB wrote:But the main topic I want to focus on is the notion that you're a pervert if you look at a woman's butt or continuously look at her body. I'M SICK OF IT. I'm a man and if I see something I like, especially when a girl deliberately wears something to look sexy, I'm going to look. Period. Is it a crime to admire the shape of woman's body? NO! They want attention but then when they get it it makes them feel uncomfortable or objectified.

To go along with this I've seen this written in profiles on OkCupid on a few occasions. "Please no perverts." My blood temperature would rise 3 degrees when spotting this. I HATE when women say that.


It's all a massive $#!^ test. 8)
Once you understand that, you'll either "run the table", or run away from it.


The same female who pulled a train with half the football team on Monday will, on Tuesday, label the argyle socks and flood-pants wearing dweeb with the unrequited crush on her as a "creeper". On Wednesday, she'll cry on the shoulder of one of her never-invited-to-ride-the-train Beta orbiters how she can't meet a "good guy". On Thursday, she'll kiss her bf with the same mouth that, on Monday, she .. ah ...TMI. :oops: :lol:

Way back, I had a profile with things like "You're only saying you like long walks 'cause your car got repo'd" and
"'Loves the outdoors' is just a nice way of saying 'homeless'".

A good number of attractive women INITIATED contact. :lol:

Back to your situation. Women do want attention. Attention is their currency.
After they get the type and amount they're after, they want attention from SOMEONE NEW.
All the flavors, so to speak. You & your friend paid gym-girl some attention. Paid.
She got PAID all the attention she wanted from you. Then she Next!ed you.

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Postby Andrewww » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:39 am

This reminds me of that bimbo booth babe that was complaining about male attention at a car convention. It's not like she didn't willingly accept the job and got paid to be there half naked :roll:

Why do you guys care so much about what these bimbos think ? So she thinks you're a pervert ? Who gives a f**k ?
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Postby zacb » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:12 pm

Or the one I hear all the time, the proverbial creeper. I seriously feel bad for those guys.
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Postby abcdavid01 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:46 pm

Well that's like the slut walk thing and accusing guys of "victim blaming" if we say they're more likely to get assaulted if they wear skimpy clothing. It's as if they want us to believe clothes don't send a message. Language doesn't mean anything. They're just acting like teases.

I'll give an example of the first part though.

When I was in high school I was in this group project with a girl. I gave my interpretation of what this poem meant, but she thought it was crap. I didn't want to argue with her though, so I just let it go. So when we presented our findings to the class she started saying my ideas and claiming they were her own. She took my idea, called it crap, but then tried to take credit for it. I called her out on it in front of the class saying it was my idea originally. There was an awkward silence for a few seconds and we finished up. But then I started getting some vibes from her afterwards. She was turned on because I put her in her place. Women's lib my ass.

Another creeper incident: http://jezebel.com/5991792/woman-in-tec ... own-ensues

Tsar, you said you don't get attention from women here in America, but I don't know if that's true. You probably just don't notice it. Stutter or no, if you're at least normal/average looking you probably get attention. I say that because you're passionate and don't seem like the type to put up with shit. Taking on an aristocratic persona...that's enough to make some women wet. Problem is, most women here just aren't worth your time.

I mean, just look at Tamerlan Tsarneav. He started getting into militant Islam, then convinced this all-American white woman to put on a burka and have his kid. She was his groupie. Women want to be dominated. She wouldn't have fallen for the guy if he was just some boring dude who had a future working in a cubicle.

Teal Lantern, that's exactly right.

Back to Tsar...the stutter might even work to your advantage. Women have nurturing instincts. It's like a soldier gets caught jumping on a bomb overseas and has his face blown off. They reconstruct it as best they can, but it still looks pretty f***ed up. But the nurse taking care of him? She sees the ugly faced soldier and her nurturing instincts take off. But this guy's a soldier, so he's no p***y. They get married and she has his kid. There's a ton of stories like that.

My dad works as a social security lawyer, so he tells me he sees these couples come in all time. The guy will be really disabled either mentally or physically, but his girlfriend will be very kind and probably very attractive. Women want to take care of them he says.

It's why women go with older men too. The perception is they have strength. My dad gets bank teller girls swooning on him all the time. You could say it's the money, but money just implies power. There are other ways to show power and dominance besides money (age, personality, etc.). Tsar, you have a strong personality and you're really passionate morally. Plus you have the stutter which activates girls' nurturing instincts. So no reason to ever lack confidence.

Women like men who are either dominant or vulnerable, or a combination of the two (disabled soldier), but they don't like p***y mangina loser supplicants.
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Postby OTB » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:47 pm

Am I correct to assume looking at a girl is natural abroad and a way a man flirts with a girl?


Tsar, yes, you are correct. Looking at a woman abroad is a sign of flirting. That's universal. However, the only problem here in the US is that it's perceived to be something other than flirting in some cases. I know from personal experience that women in other countries are VERY receptive to a man who's flirting with his eyes. I saw it in Mexico, Colombia, DR, Morocco, Spain, and Turkey.

AW women have major psychological issues. In my opinion, if a man is looking at you and he's good looking flirt back.
Now in some cases, a girl may not flirt back because she's involved with someone or she's shy. Something you have to keep in mind. But these women today are going to the gym, Walmart, and other public places with tights up their ass crack or wearing some other type of clothing that's tight and revealing which screams two things in most cases; A) I'm single and looking for a man or B) I'm single but want attention ONLY to boost my self esteem i.e. an attention whore. So.....they're looking for a man who will flirt with them and give them attention. Flirting should make a woman feel good and not feel uncomfortable or objectified. Especially, when that's what they want. There is nothing creepy about sending a message that find you find someone pleasing to the eye.

Read this I found on City-Data.com

I never understood this. For example....This morning I'm riding the subway on my way to work, and this woman wearing a REALLY short skirt sits right next to me and across from a middle aged man. The man took notice of her revealing outfit but wasnt over the top with the staring. She gave him a dirty look and said "can I help you with something???" then proceeding to talk under her breath about how men are so disrespectful and nasty! In my mind I'm saying to myself..."If you have a problem with men admiring your skimpy outfit and revealing body, how about you just NOT wear that, and if you just like dressing that way, then dont complain if men look.

How about the women who wear low cut jeans and pull their shirts down every 7 seconds as they are walking while looking back to see who's behind them staring at the crack of their a**. First of all, If I have to adjust my attire every 15 steps, I shouldnt be wearing it. Secondly, if i purposely buy low cut jeans, then I shouldnt be worrying about who can see a part of my body that I'm purposely trying to reveal! I've even seen one woman complain that a man was staring at her feet. WTF???? . Lady, if you have a problem with a man staring at your feet, then you shouldnt be wearing shoes/sandals/flip flops that expose them. What's up with these women???


http://www.city-data.com/forum/fashion-beauty/1600082-women-who-dress-revealing-then-complain.html
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Postby Bane » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:31 am

[quote="E Irizarry R&B Singer"]



On the R-train going through Astoria


Haha! I know the R-Train very well. Take it every day from 45th Street Brooklyn to Manhattan!
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Postby Hero » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:40 am

Andrewww wrote:Why do you guys care so much about what these bimbos think ? So she thinks you're a pervert ? Who gives a f**k ?


Why do we care? Because those bimbos can get us "perverts" into a world of trouble. I once belonged to a gym where they could kick you out for looking at a scantily clad ho the wrong way. Even worse, you can get fired from your job if some woman complains that you looked her up and down. In fact, your entire career can be destroyed.
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Postby JohnDoe » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:17 am

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Postby jamesbond » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:14 pm

OTB wrote:Looking at a woman abroad is a sign of flirting. That's universal. However, the only problem here in the US is that it's perceived to be something other than flirting in some cases. I know from personal experience that women in other countries are VERY receptive to a man who's flirting with his eyes. I saw it in Mexico, Colombia, DR, Morocco, Spain, and Turkey.

AW women have major psychological issues. In my opinion, if a man is looking at you and he's good looking flirt back.
Now in some cases, a girl may not flirt back because she's involved with someone or she's shy. Something you have to keep in mind. But these women today are going to the gym, Walmart, and other public places with tights up their a** crack or wearing some other type of clothing that's tight and revealing which screams two things in most cases; A) I'm single and looking for a man or B) I'm single but want attention ONLY to boost my self esteem i.e. an attention whore. So.....they're looking for a man who will flirt with them and give them attention.

I agree, American women have psychological problems and need professional help! Only a woman who is mentally disturbed would wear revealing clothing and then get mad if men looked at her! WTF? :shock:

Some women in the US are attention whores and want attention from men. These women probably didn't get enough attention from their fathers growing up and now need validation from men that they are desirable and good looking.

Either way, the best thing to do is to avoid American women like the plague! :P
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Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:10 pm

JohnDoe wrote:they allow that in brazil izzirary? in america you would probably get in deep trouble for that.

did she speak english or no? also what part of brazil were you in?

please tell me more about your brazil adventures. :)


Like I said, in NYC, they are cracking down, but one can still get away with it if he's handsome and coy enough;
a whopping 10-15 percent of female commuters on a weekly basis want physical, ad-hoc/impromptu attention despite how much or how
less of a feminist they are.

Please do not a.ssume the FW was English-speaking. I'm not a typical HA poster nor a typical, intellectually-pigeonholed American. I actually can speak 2.75 languages (I'm not quite fluent in Porto yet but I'm working on it). I'm not an uber-Philippines advo (just because HA posters go ga-ga for it because the women are boyish-built
and speak English at an intermediate level: typical American neanderthal male-attraction trait) even though I talk about how my experiences in the Philippines may coincide with the prior post(-s)/threads.

I wonder if you would say that about SkateboardStephen because he looks Black American, but is very intelligent on the inside that effervesces outwardly; he too can speak 3 languages (i.e. English, Spanish, and Porto). I'm diverting from the main topic at-hand here.

However I do thank you for your reply to my post. I'll see you back on the forum.
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Postby Introvert » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:38 am

If I ever join any kind of 'movement' or cause in the United States, it will be the one that promotes being OPENLY STRAIGHT.

I should not have to be made to feel ashamed of my nature. I like women. Love 'em, actually. Why is it OK to be gay but not OK to be straight? When did the new normal become accepted and the old normal become criminal? Are we so bored with our perfect existence that we must deviate so far from nature?

I just got back from the Arab world a couple of days ago. Even women in burkas flirt. I'd dare say they do it better because they have only one instrument at their command... their eyes.
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Postby zacb » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:06 am

It became unacceptable when men were chastised for finding younger girls attractive, then it was "sexist" attitudes, and it went from there.
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