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How are u supposed to get dates or make friends in America?

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Re: How are u supposed to get dates or make friends in Ameri

Postby jamesbond » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:41 pm

JohnDoe wrote:Just because people are getting phone numbers doesn't mean their getting dates or even being able to see them again. Keep in mind American women are ultra flakey and untrustworthy. The numbers could be fake, and even if they were to setup a date, theres a very high chance she might not show.

I bet if you ask the guys how many dates or lays that got from the numbers, it would be less than half or none at all.

If you think getting lots of phone numbers equals lots of dates and sex think again. Even paul janka, one of the worlds greatest pua's said only 10% of the women he approached ending up going on a date with him, and even less had sex with him. Plus this guy approached hundreds of women!!!

just go to any pua forum and search for field reports, you'll find tons of stories of guys getting dozens of phone numbers but 0 dates or lays. so trust me the problem is certainly not winston or any other guy. its the Women.

I'm not saying its impossible to get dates or sex with american women. Just extremely improabable and thats IF your lucky. Don't make it seem like guys are just approaching women and getting dates/sex left and right by going "hey whats your number? we should hook up soon!" then they hook up Because thats not happening. Lets be realistic here.

What you said is absolutely true! David Deangelo said, he needs to ask out dozens of women to have a date with just a few of them. Even the PUA master himself, "Mystery" said, you need to get dozens of phone numbers on a regular basis in order to be getting a few dates on a somewhat regular basis.

Getting laid only occurs with one out of 4 to 6 women you go out on a date with. So you need to get dozens and dozens of phone numbers to get a few dates and possibly one of those girls with have sex with you! These are ridiculous odds and the rejection you will get can cause your self esteem to go into the toilet! :shock:

Just ask Winston, when he was living in the US, he asked out hundreds of girls and got rejected almost every time. I would rather travel to a foreign country where I know my chances of getting phone numbers and dates will be much higher than it is here in the US.

All because you see a couple of youtube videos of guys getting women's phone numbers doesn't mean he will get dates with those women. Also, the phone numbers he is getting may not even be real. Some of the videos on youtube are staged, the guy and the girl actually already know each other and are just making a video of the guy getting the girls number just for fun.
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Postby JohnDoe » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:16 pm

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Postby Banano » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:07 pm

Its a numbers game, imagine you can walk up to a first girl and she wants a date you, sex wouldnt be as exciting

Even if you have to approch 20 girls to get 1 or 2 lays is not bad

Think about it, you can go to mall and easily approach 20 random girls within 30-40 min..and according to that theory you should get a bang or 2?


Is it just that simple, anyone tried to do that?
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Postby JohnDoe » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:08 pm

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Postby Anti-American » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:30 pm

Speaking of malls, I've read that those Israeli saleswomen at the Dead Sea kiosk at the malls will have sex with costumers:

One time one of the girls was caught having sex in the parking lot with a customer.


flirt with customers and yes - will have sex with them ANYWHERE!!!


Finally, uh, what's this about being able to f**k these chicks in the parking lot? If I'd had known that I might not have been so quick to dismiss her as a phony hawker who flirts with ugly nerds for a few bucks.


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http://www.complaintsboard.com/complain ... 27668.html
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complain ... tml?page=4
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Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:00 pm

Anti-American wrote:Speaking of malls, I've read that those Israeli saleswomen at the Dead Sea kiosk at the malls will have sex with costumers:

One time one of the girls was caught having sex in the parking lot with a customer.


flirt with customers and yes - will have sex with them ANYWHERE!!!


Finally, uh, what's this about being able to f**k these chicks in the parking lot? If I'd had known that I might not have been so quick to dismiss her as a phony hawker who flirts with ugly nerds for a few bucks.


Sources:

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complain ... 27668.html
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complain ... tml?page=4


Again, for the nth-time, even in CANADA (i.e. Can It??? Duh! --or-- the U.S. of Gay Lite USB portable edition), sex is so doable in public!!!!!! Israel takes it further with random strangers that are perceived to be hot. I have watched many of videos where the only time people in the U.S. of Gay f.uck outside is in the cornfields or in suburbia. People in parts of Europe streak, at times, streak in broad daylight in busy streets and cops arent' summoned.

From 2004-2007, I used to have sex quite often with my Brazilian-Porto ex whom is from Toronto - in the park outside - of Toronto City Hall at night time WHICH IS DOWNTOWN, in front of homeless men whom were sleeping in a cardboard box, and on an elementary school lunch table in the playground down the street in the middle of January in Toronto!
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One day, I want to go streaking in front of people in broad daylight, but it will have to be in a pro-male country so the penalty would be next-to-nothing if not nothing. I don't care if my body is tight or not, I want to do that sh.it some day.
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Postby Winston » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:19 am

So basically, America is not a good place for single people to have fun. It's for people who want a monotonous life consisting of work, shopping and raising a family in a suburban home in privacy, with little or no social interaction outside of that. It does seem that everything is built around an isolation lifestyle at home isolated from others. And when you go out, it's to shop or commute to work. Everything feels so mechanized here.

I know these points are redundant and have been made countless times in the past on this forum, but now that I'm back in the states again, it all looks so crystal clear, and sad too.

I wonder why no one ever says out loud: "America is a very isolating and lonely place. There is no human connection or camaraderie with others." Why isn't that ever said on CNN or in any public forum openly? It's super obvious, so why is it never said? So WEIRD isn't it?!

It's like anyone can see the blue sky, but no one ever mentions it. Why can't CNN mention it, instead of always talking about gay rights or human trafficking overseas?

Do any of you ever wonder why you aren't a normal person who is just working, shopping and raising a family in a suburban home, like everyone else is? Don't those "normal people" ever get bored? How do they justify their life in their mind?

To Eurobrat:

Wtf is your problem? Why are you trying to argue with every minute thing? You are the only one here who claimed that my observations in the OP were wrong. Everyone else acknowledged that it was GENERALLY TRUE. Nothing is impossible or 100 percent. Sure you can meet people in America. But it will be mostly older people, especially older males. The point is, getting dates or making new friends does NOT come easily, naturally or simply. You know that.

Heck, pretty much ALL women now in America screen out their calls so that it's hard to even get a hold of them. Even if they are your friends or relatives and on good terms with you, it's still hard to get a hold of them. Many will not answer the phone at all if they do not recognize the number or if it's anonymous. So you gotta wonder: How come American women didn't screen out their calls in the past? And how come in foreign countries, women don't screen out their calls?

American women will claim: "We screen out our calls because there are so many psychos and unwanted callers out there. So we have to." But they can never answer the question of why women in other countries don't need to do that. Nor why American women in the past didn't.

If I came to LA right now, would you be able to show me how easy it is to get dates? Or will you come up with some excuse why you can't? Stop BSing Eurobrat. You know what I mean. So stop being a prick and weasel. Sure you can do a little better than me because you have an all-American look. But it still does not come easily or naturally at all. And you know it.

PS - No I didn't pull the 80-90 percent figure out of my ass. It's what I see around me in Las Vegas. Even you said so yourself that fat midwesterners come here for their vacation. Another guy on the forum noticed the same. See his thread "What's up with Las Vegas?" where he mentions that everyone around him there was fat. I'm not referring to all of America, just what I see around me in Las Vegas. Again, stop being a dick.

I can argue, deny and debate every little thing too. For example: Are you a male Eurobrat? I doubt it. I deny it. Is 2+2=4? I doubt it. I deny it. But that wouldn't prove anything nor would it be a valid argument. Any asswipe can debate anything, but that doesn't mean there is merit to their argument. Not all random comments hold equal weight.
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Postby Winston » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:02 am

Have any of you noticed that suburban strip malls in America have an isolated and lonely feel and look to them? It's not just the environment, but the square cookie cutter design of the strip mall itself has an isolated lonely abandoned look and feel to it too. It's hard to put a finger on why that is. Are they purposely designed to connotate a feeling of isolation in suburban life? It certainly looks like it. In addition, there is a feeling of conformity to the design as well, as though the structure of the strip mall was telling your subconscious mind to conform like a robot or something. Any of you notice that?

Also, I don't know why, but when I look at a strip mall, I get a feeling of depression, sadness and hopelessness. Any of you get that feeling when looking at it too? Could it be that since I grew up in the suburbs, that the strip malls are associated with painful negative memories from childhood in my psyche?

Here are sample images of what I mean:

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Postby Dark_Sol » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:56 am

Join a private club/lodge. FOE, Elks and some others I can't think of at the moment. The members is mostly consists of old people, but they are a blast to talk with and learn from. All the members I know actually go overseas for vacation and the guys have no problem talking about how sexy the women are. Shit, some of the female members were asking if they should bring back a girl for me or how many women I dated when I was in Ethiopia. They encourage me to go to some places, one said to travel E. Europe, while the other said Indonesia. God I love old people, they are to old to give a f**k and accept people for who they truly are and understand.

Hell, one event, a members daughter was checking me out, I said hi and she smiled. She was 18 and sadly her mother was a feminist sort. Since then, never seen her again. There was some who try and hook me up with their own daughter or a friend's daughter. Problem was that I wasn't their type and they were almost 30(imagine that).
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Postby HenryGeorge » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:13 am

Winston wrote:Have any of you noticed that suburban strip malls in America have an isolated and lonely feel and look to them? It's not just the environment, but the square cookie cutter design of the strip mall itself has an isolated lonely abandoned look and feel to it too. It's hard to put a finger on why that is. Are they purposely designed to connotate a feeling of isolation in suburban life? It certainly looks like it. In addition, there is a feeling of conformity to the design as well, as though the structure of the strip mall was telling your subconscious mind to conform like a robot or something. Any of you notice that?

Also, I don't know why, but when I look at a strip mall, I get a feeling of depression, sadness and hopelessness. Any of you get that feeling when looking at it too? Could it be that since I grew up in the suburbs, that the strip malls are associated with painful negative memories from childhood in my psyche?

Here are sample images of what I mean:

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You do have a point there. It reminds of an author who was interviewed about his recent book called 'Why America Failed' and one of the questions asked was why he had moved to Mexico:


NP: Finally, you moved to Mexico a number of years ago. Is all this why? Do you ever see yourself coming back to America?

MB: There are a lot of answers to that question, and yes, some of the reasons can be found in the above dialogue. You know, the air is really “thinâ€￾ in the United States, because the value-system is one-dimensional. It’s basically about economic and technological expansion, not much else; the “elseâ€￾ exists at the margins, if it exists at all. I first discovered this when I traveled around Europe in my mid-20s. I saw that the citizens of those countries talked about lots of things, not just about material success. Money is of course important to the citizens of other countries, Mexico included, but it’s not necessarily the center of their lives.

Here’s what the US lacks, which I believe Mexico has: community, friendship, appreciation of beauty, craftsmanship as opposed to obsessive technology, and—despite what you read in the American newspapers—huge graciousness; a large, beating heart. I never found very much of those things in the US; certainly, I never found much heart. American cities and suburbs have to be the most soulless places in the world. In a word, America has its priorities upside down, and after decades of living there, I was simply tired of being a stranger in a strange land. In A General Theory of Love, Thomas Lewis and his colleagues conclude that happiness is achieved only by those who manage to escape the American value-system. Well, the easiest way to escape from that value-system, is to escape from America.
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Postby Teal Lantern » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:36 pm

Winston could always open an account where S_Parc banks.
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Postby have2fly » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:01 pm

To all of you who posted advice to go for some social gathering, finding a hobby or whatever else. WHY do I NEED to do that to meet people? What happened to bumping into strangers on the street? What happened to saying hi on public transportation? Oh wait, US OF A DOES not have NO PUBLIC transportation besides a few lame large cities.

Winston is right, exactly on the point and I totally agree with him. Vitaly videos that everyone loves, including me - he is an innocent fairly good looking young guy!!! He fits a stereotype of middle class white dude who is FUN. What if you don't look like him? Yeah, I heard "creepy" word many times just because I don't look "fun" and don't use American system of fake interaction with strangers. I am abroad again and hope I will stay here for a long time.
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Postby aozora13 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:31 pm

I agree with have2fly. It should not be too difficult to meet people and find a decent girl. However, the US is not like that at all and I am hoping to go abroad again because of the way the US is now, it seems like you have to look at the sign on the wall and get out before it is too late.

Plus although some people do not want to marry, guys can at least be able to date a women in another country without the crap that is associated with dating in the west.

Yes, transporation is in big cities but not in most of the country only long regional trains but you would think that the US can have the latest technology to transport make high speed trains.
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Postby eurobrat » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:56 am

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Postby Banano » Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:58 am

People are not immigrating because US is a great country for socializing and meeting people, they are doing it for economic reasons


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If you were walking in Winston shoes you would understand, you probably have some success with AW and you cant relate

Maybe Winston isnt trying hard enough, how about Winston approaches 10 women every day for the rest of his stay in US?
It would be interesting to see if he is gonna have any luck
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