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Postby jamesbond » Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:42 pm

Banano wrote:Maybe Winston isnt trying hard enough, how about Wisnton approaches 10 women every day for the rest of his stay in US?
It would be interesting to see if he is gonna have any luck


This is an interesting idea. I know Winston said when he was living in the US in his twenties, he approached hundreds of girls and got very few phone numbers. He only had a couple of dates from all the girls he approached.

Maybe if he approached girls now that he is back in the US, he can see if his luck will change. He will probably have the same outcome as before, approach hundreds of girls, only to get a few phone numbers and a couple of dates! :shock:
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Postby Teal Lantern » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:37 pm

Banano wrote:People are not immigrating because US is a great country for socializing and meeting people, they are doing it for economic reasons


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If you were walking in Winston shoes you would understand, you probably have some success with AW and you cant relate

Maybe Winston isnt trying hard enough, how about Wisnton approaches 10 women every day for the rest of his stay in US?
It would be interesting to see if he is gonna have any luck


"Trying hard" is exactly what he's doing wrong. :roll:
Outbidding another dumbass for a shitty product doesn't make it worth more, it only makes the seller think their shitty product is valuable.
Guys jump through hoops like trained seals trying to get the fish, then turn around and ask why women demand more and more elaborate stunts -- for diminishing quality of fish.


http://www.returnofkings.com/7765/how-y ... up-culture
Quit going on dinner dates. Quit asking girls out in a formal manner. Don’t call. Cease all manner of “gentlemanlyâ€￾ behavior you may have learned as a child via your parents or the Disney Channel. Replace dinners and other traditional dates with bar/pong dates, and allow late night “booty-callâ€￾ texts to supplant phone calls and traditional methods of asking a girl out. In short, do less.
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Postby S_Parc » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:12 pm

Teal Lantern wrote:"Trying hard" is exactly what he's doing wrong. :roll:
Outbidding another dumbass for a shitty product doesn't make it worth more, it only makes the seller think their shitty product is valuable.
Guys jump through hoops like trained seals trying to get the fish, then turn around and ask why women demand more and more elaborate stunts -- for diminishing quality of fish.


http://www.returnofkings.com/7765/how-y ... up-culture
Quit going on dinner dates. Quit asking girls out in a formal manner. Don’t call. Cease all manner of “gentlemanlyâ€￾ behavior you may have learned as a child via your parents or the Disney Channel. Replace dinners and other traditional dates with bar/pong dates, and allow late night “b***y-callâ€￾ texts to supplant phone calls and traditional methods of asking a girl out. In short, do less.


Well, I don't know where folks hang out but what I've noticed is that personally, I need to completely separate out the world of acquaintances/socializing/business contacts, etc, from the world of "hookups" for the sake of b@inking.

It takes quite some time to become a regular, at a particular association, bar/restaurant, or social circle. Once you're a regular and seen, ppl will remember you. And thus, if you start b@inking around, the gals will start to talk and soon, depending upon where you go, you might not be invited anymore. Right now, my life in eastern MA is nearly perfect. I have endless things to do, people to hang out with, and for the most part, no headaches from women.

If my life were let's say equally divided between Boston and let's say New Haven CT (for 2-3 days/week), then I'd approach things a bit differently. Yes, while away from the home front, I'd get women's numbers and perhaps, even have an occasional i-91 b@ink. I did this at various national conferences where I'd b@inked AWs from Albuquerque, VA Beach, Kentucky, Mississippi, and some other rural areas I couldn't remember. All and all, when it was over, they were back on the plane and out of my life forever.
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Postby JohnDoe » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:31 pm

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Postby Teal Lantern » Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:00 pm

S_Parc wrote:Well, I don't know where folks hang out but what I've noticed is that personally, I need to completely separate out the world of acquaintances/socializing/business contacts, etc, from the world of "hookups" for the sake of b@inking.

It takes quite some time to become a regular, at a particular association, bar/restaurant, or social circle. Once you're a regular and seen, ppl will remember you. And thus, if you start b@inking around, the gals will start to talk and soon, depending upon where you go, you might not be invited anymore. Right now, my life in eastern MA is nearly perfect. I have endless things to do, people to hang out with, and for the most part, no headaches from women.

If my life were let's say equally divided between Boston and let's say New Haven CT (for 2-3 days/week), then I'd approach things a bit differently. Yes, while away from the home front, I'd get women's numbers and perhaps, even have an occasional i-91 b@ink. I did this at various national conferences where I'd b@inked AWs from Albuquerque, VA Beach, Kentucky, Mississippi, and some other rural areas I couldn't remember. All and all, when it was over, they were back on the plane and out of my life forever.

JohnDoe wrote:Why should guys have to try hard at all? Why should it be like a total workout just to get dates or laid?


I agree with both of you. 8)
There's going to a conference for business, and getting laid as a bonus vs going to a conference as a cover to get laid.
It comes off totally different.

W seems determined to crap where he eats (trying to use friend zone females as hook-up partners), no matter how many ways & reasons we tell him not to.

I was only half-joking about him opening a bank account.
Maybe he doesn't believe how aggressive females can pursue when you're just trying to get some work done?
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Postby Banano » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:22 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tj9xfSl ... 7CCA3B37E0

Theres video of Paul Janka where he says for every 9 chicks he approaches he gets 1 lay.



Winston can try to do the same but he needs to remember US is not PH, as 40 yo man you cant hit on women in their 20s..
imo he should go for women 29+..and that is still a huge gap for Western standards

Winston, do 50 approaches a day and you should expect a few bangs


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Postby celery2010 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:24 pm

HenryGeorge wrote:

You do have a point there. It reminds of an author who was interviewed about his recent book called 'Why America Failed' and one of the questions asked was why he had moved to Mexico:


NP: Finally, you moved to Mexico a number of years ago. Is all this why? Do you ever see yourself coming back to America?

MB: There are a lot of answers to that question, and yes, some of the reasons can be found in the above dialogue. You know, the air is really “thinâ€￾ in the United States, because the value-system is one-dimensional. It’s basically about economic and technological expansion, not much else; the “elseâ€￾ exists at the margins, if it exists at all. I first discovered this when I traveled around Europe in my mid-20s. I saw that the citizens of those countries talked about lots of things, not just about material success. Money is of course important to the citizens of other countries, Mexico included, but it’s not necessarily the center of their lives.

Here’s what the US lacks, which I believe Mexico has: community, friendship, appreciation of beauty, craftsmanship as opposed to obsessive technology, and—despite what you read in the American newspapers—huge graciousness; a large, beating heart. I never found very much of those things in the US; certainly, I never found much heart. American cities and suburbs have to be the most soulless places in the world. In a word, America has its priorities upside down, and after decades of living there, I was simply tired of being a stranger in a strange land. In A General Theory of Love, Thomas Lewis and his colleagues conclude that happiness is achieved only by those who manage to escape the American value-system. Well, the easiest way to escape from that value-system, is to escape from America.


I have to agree here. Mexico is very close to Texas, an overnight bus ride away from South Texas. Unfortunately, most of Mexico just south of AZ/CA is not really the heart of Mexico, barring the big city of TJ.

But i have to comment here that Winston is in Vegas, one of the easiest places to meet people in America. Dozens of young single people move to Vegas every day looking for a job as a casino worker, singer, dancer, bartender, stripper, etc.

I stayed in a hostel once and met a girl from LA who was in town to work in the strip clubs for the weekend.

There are definitely places you can go out practically 7 nights a week, and you can definitely meet a lot of the industry workers and quickly make friends. Now whether these guys and gals are deep thinkers, probably not. But if you want to meet some people to party and hang out with and are mostly from out of town and thus are lonely and wanting to meet new people, it's hard to think of a better place than Vegas.

Just locate in some apartment complex that has a lot of newcomers. Of course you may burn out on the lifestyle after a year or two, though.

Does America have some pretty soulless places? Absolutely. But Winston grew up in the Bay Area, one of the nicest places in America, with a ton of stuff happening and a huge Asian community. Again, maybe spending half your time in Mexico/DR/Colombia/Central or Latin America would be a good idea, especially in the winter.

I have to agree that you find out more about your friends on Facebook than in real life often times.
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Postby Hero » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:52 am

I don't think those videos are telling the whole truth. I'll bet that for every phone number they got, there are 10 other girls who told them to f**k off
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Postby Anti-American » Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:27 am

Cold approaches are pretty much useless:

http://aaronsleazy.blogspot.com/2012/04 ... -much.html
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Postby Andrewww » Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:42 am

Why is Winston in the US anyway ?
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Postby Winston » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:17 am

Banano wrote:People are not immigrating because US is a great country for socializing and meeting people, they are doing it for economic reasons


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If you were walking in Winston shoes you would understand, you probably have some success with AW and you cant relate

Maybe Winston isnt trying hard enough, how about Winston approaches 10 women every day for the rest of his stay in US?
It would be interesting to see if he is gonna have any luck


No he probably just has lower standards. He admitted that the friendliest girls he met in the US are not attractive. Even if has some success, he knows that it's an uphill battle too. He knows what we are all talking about here, and is probably just playing devil's advocate again. He knows that in most public places, approaching girls feels inappropriate and out of bounds. Suburban girls don't like to be approached too. It feels creepy and violating. In the big city, it's more normal to hit on girls and more an expected thing.

I think my best chance here is to go to the big Chinatown in Las Vegas and try to chat up Chinese girls who are fresh off the boat and haven't been too Americanized yet. However, Chinese immigrants here tend to be from well off families and will probably be a little snooty or snobby. They're not going to be eager to find a guy or make new friends. Plus it just feels inappropriate to walk up to girls cold and start talking. You need to have a valid excuse to break the ice, such as asking directions or innocent questions.

While we were furniture shopping, I did meet this really hot, tall and sexy Chinese girl who was working there because her parents owned the place. After I made small talk with her for 5 minutes, my parents and aunt began leaving. So before I left, I asked if she had a number. Then she looked confused and said "number?" I then rephrased it and said "Yeah, number or QQ?" Then she said "Oh I don't use QQ" and slowly began edging away, as if she was blowing me off. Do you all think I should go back there and try to chat her up some more and maybe change her mind? lol. However, she is pretty tall, taller than me even I think, and may see me as too short for her. But oh man. She was so sexy, feminine and white. I was mesmerized by her. I kept thinking "If only I could marry someone like that..." I kept fantasizing about rolling on the nice bed at the furniture store with her. lol. Her parents also rent an apartment from my aunt, which is why we were there. So with all these connections, I don't know why no one ever introduces me to any girls or even thinks to. It's like everything is against you.

Btw there is one good news. After being back in the US, my skin and face has improved due to the fresh air and lack of humidity. I now look younger again, like I did before I left the US in 2006. So that's a good thing. I think my skin is not compatible with Asia (esp SE Asia) because the heat and humidity combined make me look terrible, sluggish and tired, which makes me look older. My skin is more compatible with the US. I look better here and younger too, much more like my normal self. Also, the carrot soap I'm using on my face that I got in the Philippines has helped my skin look better and smoother too.

My sleeping habits are more regular here too, due to the clean comfortable environment that I'm more used to. I've also been eating better and healthier too, believe it or not. In fact, I lost 6 pounds last week after eating less. When I arrived, the scale said I weighed 188 pounds. Now I step on the scale and it says I weigh 182. That's a fast weight drop. lol. My body seems to lose weight fast as well as gain it fast too.

PS - My friend Amber (a long time close friend from Seattle who now lives in Las Vegas) told me today that Las Vegas is really hard to find a boyfriend in. She said that every guy she's met was either:

1. really ugly
2. too much into drinking and gambling
3. taken and settled down with family (if they were good guys)
4. on a short stay vacation, if they are hanging out on the strip, and only be looking for a fling

So I guess for women, Las Vegas sucks for dating too. lol. She also said that guys hit on her a lot like there were no boundaries, and when she didn't have a car here and was using public transportation, guys would keep offering her a ride. She said that this happened in rich areas of Las Vegas, not just the seedy areas. That's odd. I guess things are different if you are a girl. But I don't see any guys hitting on any girls at all here. They just mind their own business and are in their own bubble, just like everyone else around here.
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Postby eurobrat » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:52 am

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Postby Teal Lantern » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:07 pm

eurobrat wrote:
Winston wrote:While we were furniture shopping, I did meet this really hot, tall and sexy Chinese girl who was working there because her parents owned the place. After I made small talk with her for 5 minutes, my parents and aunt began leaving. So before I left, I asked if she had a number. Then she looked confused and said "number?" I then rephrased it and said "Yeah, number or QQ?" Then she said "Oh I don't use QQ" and slowly began edging away, as if she was blowing me off. Do you all think I should go back there and try to chat her up some more and maybe change her mind? lol. However, she is pretty tall, taller than me even I think, and may see me as too short for her. But oh man. She was so sexy, feminine and white. I was mesmerized by her. I kept thinking "If only I could marry someone like that..." I kept fantasizing about rolling on the nice bed at the furniture store with her. lol. Her parents also rent an apartment from my aunt, which is why we were there. So with all these connections, I don't know why no one ever introduces me to any girls or even thinks to. It's like everything is against you.


See this is exactly why you scared her away, you went out to buy a fricking couch and your asking her for her number. That's pretty out of context man, how did you even lead up to asking her for her number? Did you make her feel like you're entitled to her phone number because you bought something from her store.

creepy....


Meanwhile, some older guy who barely paid her any attention at all got home and noticed she'd written her cell number on his receipt. :wink:
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Postby Christianfilipinacom » Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:00 pm

Winston, you can start meeting people by volunteering or attending church services.
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