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Are you a wage-slave?

Postby mguy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:12 pm

What is your opinion on wage-slavery.

Are you one? Are you starting steps to not be one?
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Postby mrmillersd » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:15 pm

No, but i am an food slave
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Re: Are you a wage-slave?

Postby Tsar » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:47 pm

mguy wrote:What is your opinion on wage-slavery.

Are you one? Are you starting steps to not be one?


Wage slavery isn't something I like or want. Creating a small business allowed people to be free and if they were successful it would sometimes grow into a medium-size business. Working for most businesses in the present is working for a little income while the CEOs and executives of the corporation receive more money in one year than you would earn in ten lifetimes. Then you are forced to go into debt to buy a house, buy a car, or make purchases that are necessary. Losing a job destroys many people's financial health and everything they worked to create for themselves because they are a wage-slave, debt-slave, and tax-slave.

I don't plan on working to enrich a CEO while I get a wage hardly above the real poverty line rating because that's what happens in America. There are many scientists and professionals, many with years of experience or PhD.s that are on unemployment or can not find employment. Some are working minimum wage jobs just to survive. So if those educated people are in poverty in countries like America then for members of the new generations, including myself, there is little opportunity in America. The opportunity in America and many Anglo and Western European countries is gone.

There are movies in places like Singapore there are videos where natural born native Singaporeans can no longer afford to buy a home in their own country because foreign buyers have bought homes and bid all the prices up to unnatural levels. In high-income countries many prices have increased to unreasonable levels because of access to easy credit and cheap debts. So a lack of opportunity isn't just in North America or Western Europe, many of the wealthiest, first world, countries have a lack of opportunity for the average person.

It's a way to control the masses, keep the masses powerless, and to keep the masses from raising their social class. America is one of the worst because most of the larger corporations and larger businesses have made it so it's impossible to compete and they can use loopholes they had written into the law to destroy competition.

The only way to not be a wage-slave is to take the risk and create your own small business in a business friendly country.
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Postby mguy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:47 pm

Here's a good definition of wage-slave

http://logicramblings.wordpress.com/201 ... age-slave/

This one targeted to millennial types

http://www.themiddlefingerproject.org/e ... d-in-hand/

Here is how not be a wage slave

http://www.wisebread.com/how-to-not-be-a-wage-slave
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Postby mguy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:22 pm

Dear Wage-Slave,

You are born to produce. Human-resource you are.

You start by being indoctrinated in the school about the system.You will choose a specialty that maximizes your earning potential -- to think otherwise is not valued here. You will wake up, go home, then produce and produce, then you will go home. Everyday you will do this to keep the machine humming and expanding.

You will then identify with your profession. You work as engineer, your core is now an engineer.

You produce, then produce then produce. Your life will be drained one day at a time as you watch your account increase -- this will consume your waking life. You don't notice this, one day fades to another, the same streets, same smell, sameness and you're never still there yet.

You will think about what you'd rather do. Live abroad? You save for it. But it never comes does it? You think you are not ready, that it is too much a risk you become. You start thinking of all the work you put in your specialty -- you need to keep fruiting it, a little bit more, another paycheck. It never comes does it?

You sit in your cubicle and you wait for the paycheck to come. Then you get lost in the world of marketing and you imagine that you wanted this and that. Your little plan of escape has now gotten lost: de-prioritized.

In the cubicle world you blank off. You feel the soul crush. But you cannot leave? Now you locked yourself in. Now you have that ego and that loan that you used to pay to acquire that good. Made a mistake didn't you? That successful image costs a lot it turns out.

Your master calls, and you come. You are tired of the work but cannot leave. Leave this one and go through the motions in the other --- how much can you really take? You wake up and you hit 30 then 40. Then at 40 when you are finally ready. Will you take it? You are half your life already, are you still saving?

Still scared. Wage-slave, you are born to produce. The fantasy of retirement is not real. You will find out soon enough. You have given your entire life and are at 60 now. Upper management scum everyone know you just want to get out to leave. Your life is almost over your retirement is almost here, another day another year.

There was a parable. Three brothers were given gold. One buried it in the ground. The other two invested it. Of the two that invested, one lost it -- yet the father was pleased. Of the two that invested, one gained -- the father was equally please. The third who buried it -- the father scorned for he had squandered the gift and did nothing.

That gold is your life.

Sincerely,
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Postby Moretorque » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:50 pm

As far as politically we are all slaves in this modern world to the credit monopoly, the only way to not be a wage slave is to either run the credit monopoly or get off the modern grid completely but then you will be a slave to the elements.
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Re: Are you a wage-slave?

Postby momopi » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:34 pm

mguy wrote:What is your opinion on wage-slavery.
Are you one? Are you starting steps to not be one?


* Working poor
* Excessive (bad) debt
* Living paycheck to paycheck
* Cannot get out of the rat race
* Lack of mobility in employment
* Lack of choice in employment


Note that not all debt is "bad debt". If you owned a rental property where the mortgage is $400 and you have the house rented for $1200, then it's a "good debt" (mortgage) that got you the positive cash flow.

Some would say that a wage slave does not have to be in poverty. The thought goes that if a high income person spends most of his/her wages on expenses with very little savings/investments, then the person is living paycheck to paycheck and is a "wage slave". However this is not necessarily correct as the high income person has CHOICES. He or she does not have to live in a McMansion and can opt to save more, but they choose badly and got themselves into an expensive lifestyle with $80K BMW in the driveway.

A poorer person, on the other hand, have no choice but to spend most of his/her income on rent and necessities. The poorer person does not have the choice of living high or low. Even if the poorer person owns his/her own small business, he/she must work even longer hours to earn enough to pay for their basic living expenses with no work-provided benefits. Many poorer Asian immigrants to America fits this profile.
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Postby mguy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:05 pm

I also think employment is crucial. Time without employment is wasted time. We need to make a living to support ourselves, but we need to redefine how we get our income. Maybe employment abroad is a good option even maybe if the pay is low. I've started applying abroad. But in the long-term my experiences says that life as an employee has little security. Granted you still have to work, but it's gotten to a point where you need to turn wage into income to protect yourself.
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Postby mguy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:15 pm

Moretorque wrote:As far as politically we are all slaves in this modern world to the credit monopoly, the only way to not be a wage slave is to either run the credit monopoly or get off the modern grid completely but then you will be a slave to the elements.


Damn. Double damn. You just can't win. haha
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Postby mrmillersd » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:17 pm

dont be a wage slave then....live with a uncontacted tribe in the amazon. Hunt, farm, raise animals. Never work for a corporation one more day in your life :)
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Postby skateboardstephen » Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:25 am

mguy wrote:I also think employment is crucial. Time without employment is wasted time. We need to make a living to support ourselves, but we need to redefine how we get our income. Maybe employment abroad is a good option even maybe if the pay is low. I've started applying abroad. But in the long-term my experiences says that life as an employee has little security. Granted you still have to work, but it's gotten to a point where you need to turn wage into income to protect yourself.


Working abroad could be better even if you are paid less...due to a lower cost of living..America is turing into a country where..Americans can no longer afford to live due to high ass rent and mortgages...causing stress to keep your head above water..in a third world country..or in Brazil..depending on how you live paying rent and eating could be the least of your worries but then there are other problems..like safety....and other things.
se eu soubesse o que eu sei hoje, teria mando mulheres americanas para foder-se há muitos anos.que deus abençoe o brasil!
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Postby SilverEnergy » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:18 am

Well if you are, this is the wrong time at least in America to be a wage slave.

The middle class is disappearing and the U.S. dollar continues to lose its purchasing power.

We're in the information age now and starting your own business has never been more important than it is now.
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Postby S_Parc » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:38 pm

Ok ... the true working model of a wage slave is a person, who works to *finance* his lifestyle. Otherwise, one can still build a cushion of savings and then, get on social security at 65.

In other words, this is a person with zero cushion for job loss, financial shock, etc. Today, this would account for a large percentage of the so-called middle class, where housing and medical costs, eat up 60% of one's post-tax income.

Unfortunately, in today's America, a man is better off, alone and banking everything he earns (or invests) than in getting involved with an AW, and watching his savings evaporate and joining the wage slaves.
16 years ago, the Best Picture of 1999, "American Beauty", telegraphed the message of Happier Abroad to the world.

Beware of long term engagements with AWs, you may find yourself in a coffin.

AB discussion thread

BTW, despite settling down with an AW, myself, the warning is still in effect.
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Re: Are you a wage-slave?

Postby Renata » Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:12 pm

mguy wrote:What is your opinion on wage-slavery.

Are you one? Are you starting steps to not be one?


I used to be 'owned' but I said 'No Mas!' No more & dashed. It's the most difficult thing leaving a career behind because of all the time you've put into it & all the money, years & education spent to reach that goal, but it's a big trap! We're all 'set up' for this from the time we enter 'school'. We're young we don't know better. We don't know what we want.

Golden rule ..: If something gives you more bad days than good days, DASH! Allow yourself to walk away. It's that simple, because you can't move on without getting rid of what's keeping you put. Risk it !
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