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Would you give up citizenship for a substantial payoff?

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Would you give up U.S. citizenship for a substantial payoff?

Yes, but no less than a million.
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38%
Yes, i'd do it for less than a million but not under 500g's
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13%
f**k Yes, i'm ready to do it now.
1
13%
Maybe, it depends on where I can get new citizenship.
3
38%
 
Total votes : 8

Would you give up citizenship for a substantial payoff?

Postby Repatriate » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:35 pm

Lower and middle class white Americans from majority Republican states love to complain about illegal immigrants. My general impression is that the "illegal" immigration argument is a red herring and most of these people don't like legal immigrants or minorities either for that matter. One of the main arguments is that immigrants take jobs and consume resources. The whole immigrant "value added" argument falls on deaf ears even though if you go to universities you see a lot of minorities (asians) in "uncool" technical and science programs which is increasingly being neglected by the white middle class mainstream in the U.S.

So let's take into consideration the conservative argument that immigrants are the problem, what if the U.S. formed a policy to pay off recent 1st gen immigrants and 2nd gen birthright immigrants to repatriate to their parent's homeland or to an alternate homeland where they have gained a new citizenship. If you believe the whole conservative position this move could potentially save future billions in unwanted welfare burden, the "browning" of the white race, and other associated social costs. :lol: This policy would include all 1st and 2nd generation immigrants with a special stipulation including african-americans since they were mostly brought here against their will.

What would the dollar figure be for you to voluntarily renounce?

I'd probably do it for no less than a million. :lol: Provided that money comes tax free and with no future tax obligations to the U.S.
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Postby ladislav » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:55 am

Never gonna happen. Immigrants server a multiple purpose for TPTB- cheaper labor and fresh expertise, votes and as scapegoats for various ills.

As long as the people considered "native whites" blame all ills on these immigrants- not on the bad and mismanaged economy-- they leave TPTB alone. And a divided at each-other's-throats population is exactly what the latter want, too.

Blacks are needed to dumb them down with hip hop and ghetto culture, turn them into gangsters and then into cheap labor in prisons or soldiers in the army.

Asians are needed because they work hard, study hard and pay taxes. All this is money into federal and state coffers.

Rich immigrants are not even an issue and they are welcome by the rich "native whites", colleges and businesses and no one cares about them being or not being here.

It's an ecological feed-back chain and they want it to stay intact.

Good being paid anything to leave/get another citizenship. 'You' will end up paying 'them' if you want to leave.
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Postby Maverick » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:12 am

LOL why isn't "no" an option?
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Postby S_Parc » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:20 am

ladislav wrote:Rich immigrants are not even an issue and they are welcome by the rich "native whites", colleges and businesses and no one cares about them being or not being here.


Yes, and then they say that money doesn't bring happiness :?
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Re: Would you give up citizenship for a substantial payoff?

Postby Cornfed » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:14 am

Repatriate wrote:One of the main arguments is that immigrants take jobs and consume resources. The whole immigrant "value added" argument falls on deaf ears even though if you go to universities you see a lot of minorities (asians) in "uncool" technical and science programs which is increasingly being neglected by the white middle class mainstream in the U.S.

The reason those courses are neglected by white men is because there are very few jobs in those industries in the West now. Obviously as the only genuinely creative humans, white men are in a class of their own where such careers exist and don't need the input of non-white immigrants.

what if the U.S. formed a policy to pay off recent 1st gen immigrants and 2nd gen birthright immigrants to repatriate to their parent's homeland or to an alternate homeland where they have gained a new citizenship.

There is no need to pay anyone off. Idi Amin demonstrated a perfectly viable solution to the immigrant problem in Uganda.
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Postby ladislav » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:41 pm

The worst type of immigrant to be in the US is probably a poor white non English speaking male.
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Postby Teal Lantern » Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:31 pm

ladislav wrote:Never gonna happen. Immigrants server a multiple purpose for TPTB- cheaper labor and fresh expertise, votes and as scapegoats for various ills.

As long as the people considered "native whites" blame all ills on these immigrants- not on the bad and mismanaged economy-- they leave TPTB alone. And a divided at each-other's-throats population is exactly what the latter want, too.

Blacks are needed to dumb them down with hip hop and ghetto culture, turn them into gangsters and then into cheap labor in prisons or soldiers in the army.

Asians are needed because they work hard, study hard and pay taxes. All this is money into federal and state coffers.

Rich immigrants are not even an issue and they are welcome by the rich "native whites", colleges and businesses and no one cares about them being or not being here.

It's an ecological feed-back chain and they want it to stay intact.

Good being paid anything to leave/get another citizenship. 'You' will end up paying 'them' if you want to leave.


People know the USSA put men on the moon decades ago with machines less powerful than today's programmable calculators yet, somehow, with all modern technology and equipment, can't figure out how to secure a border. :roll:

When they DO get around to sealing the borders, it's going to be used to keep the tax slaves IN -- Berlin Wall Style.
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