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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby MrMan » May 30th, 2015, 10:30 am

I spoke with a cross-cultural psychologist, and he said going to talk to a psychologist was almost exclusively a practice of individualistic societies. These also happen to be the 'developed' societies. In a lot of collectivist societies, people have close relationships with an in-group, for example an extended families. They might live in the same house or next door to grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. who quite regularly give the advice about their lives. They have strong social networks. Young people from individualist countries are expected to move out and live on their own as young adults and don't spend as much time, typically, with other relatives who give the advice all the time.

If you've got relatives and close friends you can talk things over with, why go to a shrink.

Then there are psychologists and psychiatrists. In some poor collectivist society, if you have people to talk to, you might not feel depressed. If you do feel depressed, you don't go to the psychologist or psychiatrist and get diagnosed, because that's not really a thing. Maybe a really crazy person from a family with some means in Indonesia would go to a psychiatrist over there or be put in some kind of home. But there are also crazy naked people covered in dirt with really messed up hairdos, not many of them, but they are around.

Americans also are the place where the major drug companies make their money. They spend 20 years working on some chemical trying to see what if it could treat some malady that effects enough of the population to turn a profit. While this is going on, the 20 year patent is running out. So they get FDA approval to run tests, and by the time the process is done, they have 5 or 7 years or whatever left on a patent to try to squeeze money out of customers for the drug. Their salesmen try to convince doctors to use the new drug at $70 a pill instead of the old $.15 cent a pill generic drug whose patent had expired. They try to squeeze much of the money out of the American market. After the patent runs out, the drug companies sell their version of it for a premium over the cheap generic versions that come out, but their profits drop quite a bit for the drug.

And if you've ever seen drug commercials, they have side effects. "Please stop taking Fartula if you have thoughts of suicide and tell your doctor." Americans are chugging down these unnatural chemicals. Could they be making people crazy?

And if an 8-year-old boy doesn't want to sit behind a little desk all day, he gets diagnosed as being hyperactive or ADHD instead of being diagnosed as an energetic 8-year-old. So we have another stat for an American mentally ill person. And the doctors get to charge his parent's insurance some ridiculously high amount for visits to prescribe drugs for him. And the drug companies get to make money off of him, too.

Some of the mental illness could be from bad diets or 'inauthentic' society. But I think some of it is from the way our medical, phsychological, and pharmaceutical industries work together to diagnose Americans with problems and treat them, and make money in the process.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby Wolfeye » May 30th, 2015, 5:41 pm

Americans also seem to have a major issue with reality- meaning that they're very big on thinking that reality is basically what they say it is. There are so many things that might be a problem, might have happened to someone in their life, might even continue to be what's happening in their life- yet, are disqualified & designated non-issues or some kind of flaw of the person. A good example is how someone working their lives away might be depressed about it & how time is running out bit by bit for them, yet someone acts like they're mentally screwed-up for it. Living to work instead of workign to live is something that takes an extreme toll, even if nothing combatively severe happens to you (like getting shot at or setting on a landmine). This philosophy is frequently & sometimes strenuously defended. I've been told on numerous occassions: "That's life!" It's seems a lot people think it's basically dying to not live that way, especially considering how vigarously they defend this lifestyle.

Any number of abuses & ambiant conditions are presented as better than negative when this is not the case- it's not a neutral or a positive. It's a major tendancy to extol things like that, while seeing fit to deride the possibly exact same things going on in other countries. So it has an added twist of pretending reality takes a coffee break in America & the person that works like that will not likely be of much help with psychological matters or life advice.

Another issue is that every f***ing thing is grounds for a lawsuit & even more things are grounds for an arrest/capture (which can just be done without catalyst, like any other instigation). The legal system is unfair & the risks of its unfair activities is pervasively underpronounced. I don't know- maybe people are being sarcastic & I'm just not picking up on it, but applauding the actions of policy implementation workers that are antithetical to promoting justice & hospitable living conditions is a travesty. They frequently do the very things one would theoretically call them to prevent or respond to & this is frequently omitted in the way they are described. This also seems to be omitted in people's decision-making, like when they don't think about what might be coming to their house if they call them for help or if they call to inform them of a situation. This is true when they figure what a response will be from them. [This is also true with what they might be getting handcuffed by, though someone doing that extrapersonally is never a good sign.]

So, at the end of the day: there's general life within delusion, undermining, and hostility- all while working your time away for a life you don't get to live that much. This is done in a subtle, pernicious kind of way instead of an ostentatious & obvious kind of way. This makes it a bit harder to point out & not only is it frustrating, but also people think you're complaining just because you like to do that specifically or that you're crazy & figure everyone's out to get you or something. It's like arguing about someone's tone of voice- it might be there, but it's more or less impossible to argue it in a definite way like you could with the words themselves.

During all this, someone is maintaining a constant "face image" while more or less everyone publicly extols the idea of "being yourself" (yet almost always argue with things that are not "fence-riding" or acting unsure & in some way helpless). There's a near-mystique about a "straight shooter" or "someone that shoots from the hip" or whatever someone wants to call it when someone is genuine & honest, even if it's in insult- YET, when someone actually is this way they are somewhat reviled & treated like they're an asshole.

There's a constant fixation on the material, not the dynamic (a prime example is that identity doesn't change output, yet when someone wears a badge or a lab coat instead of a cross there's a bit of a PR effort to pretty up their actions or reference that "It's not all they do"- as if that somehow negates their activities). This is something that contributes to there being an open avenue of attack. Living with this risk would be something that has a psychological impact, as would many of these risks being realized. Plenty of things can stick with you, even if you don't deliberately stop enjoying things in your life or purposefully wallow in anything.

This dynamic also applies to food, medicine, education- it doesn't matter. It gets to the point where you wonder if someone doesn't grasp conditions, yet they understand a dead cell phone battery & rotten food. So I have to come to the conclusion that there is a large-scale sitaution of a general antagonism to life here. Definitely not on a complete level, but definitely a common one.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby Moretorque » May 31st, 2015, 12:01 am

The division the way it is between the sexes then brewing from there to divide all our family tree's up and shred them is a big boiling point for any civilization.
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Postby Sirocco » October 18th, 2015, 10:20 pm

As someone who is socially awkward and alone one can say I do deserve the scorn, I am low everywhere. Aspergers has become a buzzword these days but I didn't self diagnose myself or something nonsensical like that.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby Eightfold Path » October 19th, 2015, 1:13 am

I've been saying this for years. There are even mental illnesses in the North American region that have yet to be seen anywhere else. Someone above me mentioned solopsism being an American trend. This is also something I can co-sign.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby Adama » October 19th, 2015, 1:37 am

Most of mental illness is one of two things: You're a jerk, or you're a demon.

If you hear voices, see visions, etc., then you have a demon attached to you. Otherwise you are just feeling sad, or you are inconsiderate of others.

The solution to any of these is easy: Jesus Christ.

Psychiatry is comprised mainly of pill pushers. Their career is based upon prescribing as many pills as possible. To do this, they must broaden the scope of mental illness and expand their customer base. Therefore everyone is mentally ill because that is profitable for the faction of doctors who call themselves psychiatrists. Eliminate psychiatry, you'll eliminate mental illness. Then people will simply be inconsiderate, shy, sad, or demonic.
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Re: Re:

Postby Adama » October 19th, 2015, 1:44 am

Sirocco wrote:As someone who is socially awkward and alone one can say I do deserve the scorn, I am low everywhere. Aspergers has become a buzzword these days but I didn't self diagnose myself or something nonsensical like that.
I like seeing success stories about other people, to know there are some human beings left in this world, but there is no joy to be had for myself.

I can't be an alpha it's just not in the realm of possibility.



Back in the olden days they called this condition being shy. Now it is labeled as some terrible mental disorder, oh my. Twenty years from now, they will have discovered another 100 mental illnesses, which pretty much means everyone will need an anti depressant, psychotic, hypnotic pill which works as well as the placebo effect.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby Sirocco » October 19th, 2015, 4:54 am

Adama wrote:Most of mental illness is one of two things: You're a jerk, or you're a demon.

If you hear voices, see visions, etc., then you have a demon attached to you. Otherwise you are just feeling sad, or you are inconsiderate of others.

The solution to any of these is easy: Jesus Christ.

Psychiatry is comprised mainly of pill pushers. Their career is based upon prescribing as many pills as possible. To do this, they must broaden the scope of mental illness and expand their customer base. Therefore everyone is mentally ill because that is profitable for the faction of doctors who call themselves psychiatrists. Eliminate psychiatry, you'll eliminate mental illness. Then people will simply be inconsiderate, shy, sad, or demonic.


Ain't going near Jesus, want none of that.
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Re: Re:

Postby Sirocco » October 19th, 2015, 4:55 am

Adama wrote:
Sirocco wrote:As someone who is socially awkward and alone one can say I do deserve the scorn, I am low everywhere. Aspergers has become a buzzword these days but I didn't self diagnose myself or something nonsensical like that.
I like seeing success stories about other people, to know there are some human beings left in this world, but there is no joy to be had for myself.

I can't be an alpha it's just not in the realm of possibility.



Back in the olden days they called this condition being shy. Now it is labeled as some terrible mental disorder, oh my. Twenty years from now, they will have discovered another 100 mental illnesses, which pretty much means everyone will need an anti depressant, psychotic, hypnotic pill which works as well as the placebo effect.


But there's no drugs or anything for it.
I'm not shy either, I genuinely enjoy socializing. I just suck at it and that goes into another realm of discussion I won't get into now.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby Adama » October 20th, 2015, 4:36 pm

Sirocco wrote:
Adama wrote:Most of mental illness is one of two things: You're a jerk, or you're a demon.

If you hear voices, see visions, etc., then you have a demon attached to you. Otherwise you are just feeling sad, or you are inconsiderate of others.

The solution to any of these is easy: Jesus Christ.

Psychiatry is comprised mainly of pill pushers. Their career is based upon prescribing as many pills as possible. To do this, they must broaden the scope of mental illness and expand their customer base. Therefore everyone is mentally ill because that is profitable for the faction of doctors who call themselves psychiatrists. Eliminate psychiatry, you'll eliminate mental illness. Then people will simply be inconsiderate, shy, sad, or demonic.


Ain't going near Jesus, want none of that.


Hopefully you'll change your mind before you leave this world. Jesus says that He is the light of life. He will give you the light of life when you believe on Him. He is the way, the truth, and the life. I bet if you got saved that Jesus would illuminate the problem for you, so that you could fix it. God loves His children (who are the ones who believe in Jesus through faith alone). If you ask Him for something which is according to His will, He will probably give it to you. He says the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. All you'd have to do is believe and then ask God. You might even get to see that He was working in your life the whole time, but because you're unsaved, there is a veil in place preventing you from even noticing how He is working for you. That's what happened to me.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby Eightfold Path » October 20th, 2015, 7:04 pm

Sirocco wrote:
Adama wrote:Most of mental illness is one of two things: You're a jerk, or you're a demon.

If you hear voices, see visions, etc., then you have a demon attached to you. Otherwise you are just feeling sad, or you are inconsiderate of others.

The solution to any of these is easy: Jesus Christ.

Psychiatry is comprised mainly of pill pushers. Their career is based upon prescribing as many pills as possible. To do this, they must broaden the scope of mental illness and expand their customer base. Therefore everyone is mentally ill because that is profitable for the faction of doctors who call themselves psychiatrists. Eliminate psychiatry, you'll eliminate mental illness. Then people will simply be inconsiderate, shy, sad, or demonic.


Ain't going near Jesus, want none of that.

A step in the right direction, I feel.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby Adama » October 21st, 2015, 5:13 am

Eightfold Path wrote:
Sirocco wrote:
Adama wrote:Most of mental illness is one of two things: You're a jerk, or you're a demon.

If you hear voices, see visions, etc., then you have a demon attached to you. Otherwise you are just feeling sad, or you are inconsiderate of others.

The solution to any of these is easy: Jesus Christ.

Psychiatry is comprised mainly of pill pushers. Their career is based upon prescribing as many pills as possible. To do this, they must broaden the scope of mental illness and expand their customer base. Therefore everyone is mentally ill because that is profitable for the faction of doctors who call themselves psychiatrists. Eliminate psychiatry, you'll eliminate mental illness. Then people will simply be inconsiderate, shy, sad, or demonic.


Ain't going near Jesus, want none of that.

A step in the right direction, I feel.



We each will make our own choices in this life. Some will chose the narrow path, which leads to life. Most will chose the broad path, which leads to destruction. Buddhists especially should love Christianity. It is the Buddhists who believe Christ went east during his youth to learn the precepts of Buddhism, which some of them consider to be similar to Christianity.

And why hope to be reincarnated endlessly with all the suffering life has to offer, when a person could just go to heaven at the end of their first and only life, to be with our Lord and all the joy and glory which He would give you? (He promises that the ones who keep His commandment will shine as bright as the sun in heaven, in an incorruptible, invincible body. And I personally believe that we will have magical powers which come with our spiritual bodies, possibly even greater than the Angels/Demons.) I'd prefer that over being reincarnated as a slave in the third world, and I'd prefer it over complete non-existence. I definitely prefer it over endless fiery torment.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby Yohan » October 21st, 2015, 5:41 am

Adama wrote:..... Buddhists especially should love Christianity. It is the Buddhists who believe Christ went east during his youth to learn the precepts of Buddhism, which some of them consider to be similar to Christianity.

The same could be said about Islam. The Gautama Buddha is mentioned in the Quran as a man of justice, his life under a fig tree in a city located in present Afghanistan.

I don't know anything about Jesus Christ. - It is not sure if he (she?) even existed - visiting Far East Asia. Some believe, he went west to USA in Utah.

Out of all religions the weakest one is Christianity, even selling out its moral values to feminists. This is not the case with Islam, but also not with Buddhism - there is no reason why Buddhists should love Christianity.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby Eightfold Path » October 21st, 2015, 6:06 am

Yohan wrote:Out of all religions the weakest one is Christianity, even selling out its moral values to feminists. This is not the case with Islam, but also not with Buddhism - there is no reason why Buddhists should love Christianity.

Ah. A voice of reason. Thank you.
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Re: America has the highest rates of mental illness, studies

Postby josephty1 » August 2nd, 2017, 7:50 pm

Winston wrote:To back up my claim about America having the highest rates of mental illness in the world, here are some links to articles and studies I found online that attest to it. They are very revealing and testify to the dysfunctional, toxic and inauthentic lifestyle that Americans have that splits their mind from their authentic self, leading to a psychosis.

First, here is what the World Health Organization reported which confirms this:

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20040601/rate-of-mental-illness-is-staggering

June 1, 2004 -- A World Health Organization study released Tuesday shows that rates of most mental illness are far higher in the U.S. than in any other country in the world.


Here is another study that says that half of Americans will develop a mental illness in their lifetime.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/10/why-more-americans-suffer-from-mental-disorders-than-anyone-else/246035/

MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS IN THE UNITED STATES
Over a 12-month period, 27 percent of adults in the U.S. will experience some sort of mental health disorder, making the U.S. the country with the highest prevalence. Mental health disorders include mood disorders, anxiety disorders, attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder, and substance abuse. Over one's entire lifetime, the average American has a 47.4 percent chance of having any kind of mental health disorder. Yes, that's almost one in two. The projected lifetime prevalence is even higher: for people who reach age 75 it is 55 percent. The WHO data does not take into account eating disorders, personality disorders, and schizophrenia; the incidence of these disorders together is about 15 percent in the U.S., according to the National Institute of Mental Health.


Here are more articles about the high rates of mental illness in America which corroborates my claim:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5111202/
http://nysun.com/editorials/are-we-really-ill?fark
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/01/19/1-in-5-americans-suffer-from-mental-illness/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030507080958.htm
http://www.thekimfoundation.org/html/about_mental_ill/statistics.html
http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/12/20/us-rates-mental-illness-rates-are-persistently-high
http://www.samhsa.gov/newsroom/advisories/1201185326.aspx

The media has also reported on the growing epidemic of social isolation and loneliness in America, citing that Americans have fewer friends than they did in the past. See their reports here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/02/weekinreview/02fountain.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/22/AR2006062201763_pf.html
http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/060331_loneliness.html
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/pacificnw/2005/0213/cover.html

In one of the studies above, an "expert" theorizes that depression may be a "luxury disorder" in the US because people in other countries have to survive all the time and have no time for depression. lol

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/10/why-more-americans-suffer-from-mental-disorders-than-anyone-else/246035/


Quality of free time > Quantity

Winston wrote:What a load of laughable denialist BS. If having free time were really the cause of depression then how come people who work less than Americans, such as the French, Germans, Spanish and Dutch, don't have mental health problems like Americans do? In fact, even in a third world country like the Philippines, where reportedly 60 percent of people are unemployed, there are no mental illness problems, only money problems.

These dense Harvard experts are clearly in denial of the truth, which is that the true reason for the highest rates of mental illness in America have a lot more to do with the inauthentic, insane, toxic, dysfunctional, lonely, isolated, hostile, unfriendly lifestyle and social culture than with having too much free time.

Here is my theory on the causes of unusually high rates of mental illness in America:

1. The American environment is unusually ISOLATING and LONELY, compared to the rest of the world that is. America is a corporate machine where people are all business. There is no true connection, friendship, bonding or community with others. Communication is usually business related and people are segregated psychologically. Friendships, and even relationships, are mostly FACADES. Deep down, everyone knows that no one really cares about them and that no one will be there for them if they hit rock bottom. One has to try to suppress the feeling of loneliness, because it's a taboo subject, so one eventually blames oneself. This self-hatred erodes one's mental health and self-worth.


Too many different races/ethnicities/souls/personalities/etc. You got people moving from New york, Alamaba, Texas, California to places like Seattle. Really, the US should split into 5 different countries. Pacific Northwest, California Southwest, Middle Rural America, New England Northeast, and Florida Southeast.

Winston wrote:2. Americans live a very INAUTHENTIC, SOULLESS and STRESSFUL workaholic lifestyle where they deny their soul, spirit and heart to become soulless robots who only live to work and consume. They run on a hamster wheel while being disconnected from others, which is unnatural. Also, they try to derive happiness from materialism and work rather than from love, relationships, friendships or spirituality, and then they wonder why they aren't happy. All this causes a SPLIT psychosis between their head programming and their heart/spirit, which FRAGMENTS their inner state of being. Denying who you really are undermines your mental health, obviously. Additionally, being overstressed and under pressure everyday makes you weaker as well.


Americans really need to travel longer than 3 weeks. But vacation time like that is only reserved for professions like teaching, summer break and winter break.

Winston wrote:3. Americans are in an EXCESSIVE state of FEAR and paranoia, conditioned into them by their media, culture and peers. This is not good and is more easily noticeable when one goes to other countries where people are not like this, even if their country's streets are more dangerous. For example, in Russia, crimes and scams are higher than in America, yet their people are not afraid of strangers and enjoy meeting and conversing with them. All spiritual teachings will tell you that FEAR puts you in the lowest vibration density, where your mind will be less clear and your reaction will be slower. A healthy dose of fear is normal, but Americans have taken it to the extreme, and that's not good for either their physical or mental health.


Americans really need to travel longer than 3 weeks. But vacation time like that is only reserved for professions like teaching, summer break and winter break.

Winston wrote:4. Americans are raised to feel like shit with no intrinsic worth beyond their job. They are treated like COMMODITIES in the economic system, which DEHUMANIZES them and REPRESSES who they are. Denial of one's true self and feeling invalidated all the time, eventually fragments oneself and undermines one's mental health.


Winston wrote:5. Americans are raised and conditioned to feel INSECURE about themselves. They are constantly judged, criticized and made to feel like they are never good enough. No one feels accepted for who they are. They constantly have to try to "prove themselves". Americans grow up with emotional baggage, insecurity complexes and insecurity issues, which are NOT major problems that people in other countries have. So they have to brag, develop phony personalities, and try to pump up fake confidence. Most Americans would be surprised to know that things like "confidence" and "self-esteem" are not things that people in other cultures have to wrestle with and try to "pump up" everyday.




Winston wrote:6. Americans are raised with a COMPETITIVE mindset where they see others as potential enemies to watch out for. Competition divides people and is unhealthy in the long run. After all, if your heart and your liver competed with each other, would that be good for your body and health? Thus Americans don't really trust other people, and they feel all alone because there is no one for them to lean on. They have NO EMOTIONAL SUPPORT from others, and so they stand alone, which WEAKENS and FRAGMENTS them psychologically.




Winston wrote:7. And of course, the food that Americans eat contains too many chemicals, preservatives and processed ingredients and additives. Much more so than in other countries. Some of these chemicals are toxic and harmful, such as aspartme, MSG, and GMO's (genetically modified organisms). These processed ingredients and chemicals act as slow poison that deteriorates the health of Americans, causing obesity and other health problems. And since there is a proven mind-body link, if the body breaks down, then so does the mind. Thus mental health is affected by unhealthy food and nutrition as well.
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