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Post by deasil875 » July 30th, 2013, 8:39 pm

I've eschewed PUA and found that being direct and natural is better. The Feminist infected social prison culture of USA has programmed men to be beat around the bush pussies, and that you are a pervert to be bold, upfront and honest about your sexual desires to a woman. If you cannot be open, upfront and bold with women that programming needs to be reversed or a man just isn't confident enough in himself. Proponents of this school don't even consider themselves PUAs, including David X and Alan Roger Currie (author of Mode One). I wasted a good majority of my early 20s practicing the garden variety PUA material (Mystery Method, Speed Seduction, etc). Regrets and much time wasted playing the game of jumping through hoops to impress shit AWs.

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Post by theprimebait » July 30th, 2013, 9:01 pm

SilverEnergy wrote:That dude talks too much and doesn't "close" fast enough.

You need to get the girl to talk about herself, then get her digits and jet.

Paul Janka is the best at day game.

But all that time these guys waste on cold approaching could be used to doing more useful things to improve themselves.
Even Paul Janka admits only 1 out of 20 women he approaches gives their number.and the number wich result in lays is even less.

Paul Janka is Tall,masculine and very handsome.if that are his''stats''what do you think it will be for the average male ?

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Post by marklambo » July 30th, 2013, 9:09 pm

theprimebait wrote:
SilverEnergy wrote:That dude talks too much and doesn't "close" fast enough.

You need to get the girl to talk about herself, then get her digits and jet.

Paul Janka is the best at day game.

But all that time these guys waste on cold approaching could be used to doing more useful things to improve themselves.
Even Paul Janka admits only 1 out of 20 women he approaches gives their number.and the number wich result in lays is even less.

Paul Janka is Tall,masculine and very handsome.if that are his''stats''what do you think it will be for the average male ?

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The whole PUA bullshit is simply a numbers game. It's very similar to sales. The more people you talk to about your product, the more you will eventually sell (if your product is at least decent). But you'll be accepting a lot of rejection as part of the process. Same goes for PUA games, eventually you will get something (if you are at least decent). But whether it's quality or not, can be questionable at times.

The more decent the product, the better chance of sales.....the more decent you appear to the eyes of a woman, the better chance you'll get laid. If your product sucks or if you look disgusting, sales/sex will suffer dramatically. In that case, you will have to triple or quadruple your attempts to get anything.
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Post by SilverEnergy » July 30th, 2013, 9:50 pm

theprimebait wrote:
SilverEnergy wrote:That dude talks too much and doesn't "close" fast enough.

You need to get the girl to talk about herself, then get her digits and jet.

Paul Janka is the best at day game.

But all that time these guys waste on cold approaching could be used to doing more useful things to improve themselves.
Even Paul Janka admits only 1 out of 20 women he approaches gives their number.and the number wich result in lays is even less.

Paul Janka is Tall,masculine and very handsome.if that are his''stats''what do you think it will be for the average male ?

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Of course, I was only stating the guy in the video the OP posted wasn't even very good.

Yeah, it's something like 1 out of 10 or 1 out of 11 for a guy like Paul Janka.
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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by Winston » June 12th, 2018, 4:05 pm

Check out this stupid PUA video from some dumb Asian guy. He claims that girls are like cats and you have to treat them as such. Though girls do have some similar traits to cats, that info alone is useless. Then at the end he says that the key to getting girls is to not show interest in them, just like cats will like you if you don't show interest in them too. WTF? That's stupid. A girl who doesn't like you is NOT gonna suddenly become into you just because you show no interest in her. That is fake, stupid and totally fictional! It's like something out of a comedy show, not reality. If a girl already likes you or is into you, and you show disinterest, it will frustrate her and make her want you a little more, yeah, but she has to ALREADY like you beforehand. Duh!

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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by GuyAbroad8293 » August 21st, 2018, 10:44 am

PUAs are pathetic p***y beggars. They think it's a virtue to kiss a woman's ass.
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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by Darrell_Johnston » August 21st, 2018, 4:34 pm

The key to meeting women is not by simply running round talking to as many women as you can.

It is having purpose
It is to live with passion
It is to be in love with life
It is to be creative
And to add as much value to the world as you can
Know how to make women orgasm

When you have those 6 qualities, you don't need to know PUA tricks to try to make women attracted to you..... Women will be naturally attracted to you.

Being reasonably healthy helps too.

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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by Darrell_Johnston » August 21st, 2018, 4:34 pm

The key to meeting women is not by simply running round talking to as many women as you can.

It is having purpose
It is to live with passion
It is to be in love with life
It is to be creative
And to add as much value to the world as you can
Know how to make women orgasm

When you have those 6 qualities, you don't need to know PUA tricks to try to make women attracted to you..... Women will be naturally attracted to you.

Being reasonably healthy helps too.

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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by Ghost » August 21st, 2018, 6:14 pm

Darrell_Johnston wrote:
August 21st, 2018, 4:34 pm
The key to meeting women is...
Where's the key to making American women good?
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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by Zambales » August 21st, 2018, 6:49 pm

Winston wrote:
June 12th, 2018, 4:05 pm
Check out this stupid PUA video from some dumb Asian guy. He claims that girls are like cats and you have to treat them as such. Though girls do have some similar traits to cats, that info alone is useless. Then at the end he says that the key to getting girls is to not show interest in them, just like cats will like you if you don't show interest in them too. WTF? That's stupid. A girl who doesn't like you is NOT gonna suddenly become into you just because you show no interest in her. That is fake, stupid and totally fictional! It's like something out of a comedy show, not reality. If a girl already likes you or is into you, and you show disinterest, it will frustrate her and make her want you a little more, yeah, but she has to ALREADY like you beforehand. Duh!

Sorry Winston but I agree with this video due to my own experiences. You got to remember that women are wired differently to us. Ever heard of them being attracted to the mysterious, aloof type of guys? That's probably because they enjoy a challenge and can relate to them more as their behaviour resembles that of a cat rather than a dog.

Of course, a woman can be interested in a dog-like-man but the million dollar question here is..... Is she actually attracted to him or does she just want him to be her bitch and to take him for a walk (if you catch my drift)?

As the old adage goes, if you can't beat them join them. So be a cat! An independent hunter like a tiger or a leopard who patiently surveys the scene (looking for the signs) and then goes for the prey when the time is right.

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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by Darrell_Johnston » August 21st, 2018, 7:37 pm

Ghost wrote:
August 21st, 2018, 6:14 pm
Darrell_Johnston wrote:
August 21st, 2018, 4:34 pm
The key to meeting women is...
Where's the key to making American women good?
Making yourself worthy of good women.

And that also is why you need those 6 qualities...

It is having purpose
It is to live with passion
It is to be in love with life
It is to be creative
And to add as much value to the world as you can
Know how to make women orgasm

As well has having standards

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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by Cornfed » August 21st, 2018, 10:41 pm

Darrell_Johnston wrote:
August 21st, 2018, 7:37 pm
Ghost wrote:
August 21st, 2018, 6:14 pm
Darrell_Johnston wrote:
August 21st, 2018, 4:34 pm
The key to meeting women is...
Where's the key to making American women good?
Making yourself worthy of good women.

And that also is why you need those 6 qualities...

It is having purpose
It is to live with passion
It is to be in love with life
It is to be creative
And to add as much value to the world as you can
Know how to make women orgasm

As well has having standards
And by act of sympathetic magick this will make females good. This is comedy gold.

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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by fschmidt » August 22nd, 2018, 2:30 am

Darrell_Johnston wrote:
August 21st, 2018, 4:34 pm
The key to meeting women is...
Traveling abroad.

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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by onethousandknives » August 22nd, 2018, 3:25 am

I'm now on a few drugs/supplements to increase my testosterone. I noticed many more women, especially American women, attracted to me a lot more compared to before. Before this, I had a (drunk) American woman tell me before I started on stuff "You're hot as hell, it's just you got no swagger." Now I'm even more overweight and girls are attracted to me more, just due to the higher androgen levels. I think dating and sexuality is much more based on hormones and pheromones and that sort of thing than people would like to admit, as it kills their ideas of agency. In USA due to birth control and hormonal use in general during pregnancy, along with the bad foods, lifestyle, and endocrine disruptors, a lot of men simply have low testosterone. Compounding this, a lot of these things cause women to be essentially hyper-masculine compared to normal females (progesterone birth control for example, shuts off testosterone production in the fetus if a woman gets pregnant while using birth control, but conversely is masculinizing to females.) So it compounds, because for a more masculine woman, they're going to be attracted to even higher T males (which a lot of very high T males tend to be violent/criminals, thus the attraction to "bad boys.") I think Asian girls as a generality are less masculinized, and Asian males genetically due to lower DHT than whites and blacks (Asians have the lowest DHT levels, whites about the middle, and blacks the highest) thus are least masculine looking of all the races. So whites do well in Asia for this reason, as DHT is the main masculinizing hormone, not testosterone (in fact, you won't even develop male genitalia without DHT.)

So how this relates to PUA, PUA essentially tries to give a "fake it til you make it" kind of thing to dating, etc, and tries to tell people how to emulate the actions of higher testosterone, but girls can literally smell T, and girls know if you're "acting" vs the real thing. So PUA is pointless as you can, if you have high T, just talk to girls about anime or something and they'll want to f**k you, vs low T and attempts at "game" they'll still not care at all that you exist.

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Re: PUA/Game is so freaking retarded

Post by Ghost » August 22nd, 2018, 6:34 pm

Darrell_Johnston wrote:
August 21st, 2018, 7:37 pm
Making yourself worthy of good women.

And that also is why you need those 6 qualities...

It is having purpose
It is to live with passion
It is to be in love with life
It is to be creative
And to add as much value to the world as you can
Know how to make women orgasm

As well has having standards
You have no understanding whatsoever of the problem. And you can't even answer my questions.

I know how to attract good women. What I asked is how do you make a population of bad women into a population of good women?

The answer, of course, is that you don't - which is why you didn't even address my question.

Answering my questions would show how flimsy your belief system is.
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