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The advantage of living a socially disconnected life

Postby Voice of Reason » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:30 pm

I am staying in Vietnam with a Vietnamese family and it's been an excellent experience. But it has only one problem, and that is that i never get any time to myself.

This gets stressful at times, because it makes it difficult to work on my online business. I just wish I could lock myself up for twelve hours a day for a month or two and get things done. Lately I haven't been able too, because in Thailand I had a girlfriend that took up so much of my time, and now this.

So I would say that the one main benefit of living a socially disconnected life is that it gives you ample time to build up personal wealth.

I write this message not to have rant, but in the hope that I inspire someone.

So if you're stuck in the west at the moment, sick of life, and not getting laid...use that extra time to build personal wealth. Use the time to master a skill that can be used online to make money, or to gain clients. If you are still stuck in a job, use your spare time in the evening (or day time if you're a shift worker) to learn a new skill, and save money that can get you out of your rut.

It's all relative...whether you save money or increase your power to earn money...it eventually allows you to spend time overseas. And the more socially disconnected you are, the more time you can spend on these two pursuits.
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Postby Jeremy » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:23 pm

Most people aren't talented enough to start an online business. That's why we're stuck doing unpleasant office work / manual labour in the first place. Also, when I'm off work I'm too exhausted to do anything but lie in bed. There's no way I could take night classes on top of it.
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Re: The advantage of living a socially disconnected life

Postby S_Parc » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:26 pm

Voice of Reason wrote:So if you're stuck in the west at the moment, sick of life, and not getting laid...use that extra time to build personal wealth. Use the time to master a skill that can be used online to make money, or to gain clients. If you are still stuck in a job, use your spare time in the evening (or day time if you're a shift worker) to learn a new skill, and save money that can get you out of your rut.


This is exactly my motto in life. Ever since my Brazilian GF and I parted ways, I've been nearly fully engaged in all my activities.

For important than just money/customers, is that ability to hone in on your hobbies/extracurriculars. For me, that's Martial Arts, Qigong, Basketball, etc. And in those venues, I've made friends/acquaintances, if I ever needed to go out and do things with ppl in general. Also, I've been invited by instructors to assist new students and so forth. Life is actually quite full, if one doesn't wallow away in that whole 'AWs suck' albatross. Yes, they do suck but that's not the point of life.
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Postby Voice of Reason » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:54 pm

Jeremy wrote:Most people aren't talented enough to start an online business.


Talent is not necessary.

Most people who are successful are not so because they have some innate talent, but because they were motivated and cultivated their skill over a long period of time. Bill Gates spent 10,000 hours practicing programming before he got anywhere. Many of the famous painters painted thousands of bad paintings before they created their masterpieces.

I'm not saying you need to spend that amount of time in creating an online business, but with motivation and dedication it is still possible. The most successful online entrepreneurs put up to 12 hours a day perfecting their craft and establishing their business.

And likewise, there are many talented people working as janitors because they are lazy or just didn't get a break in life.

Jeremy wrote:That's why we're stuck doing unpleasant office work / manual labour in the first place. Also, when I'm off work I'm too exhausted to do anything but lie in bed. There's no way I could take night classes on top of it.


I was in that situation as well...and I saved money up which still allowed me to spend time overseas. Then I moved to a cheap country, where I can use my time to work on my business.

My only problem is that I was lazy when I first came overseas, which I now regret.
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Re: The advantage of living a socially disconnected life

Postby C.J. » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:22 pm

Voice of Reason wrote:I just wish I could lock myself up for twelve hours a day for a month or two and get things done. Lately I haven't been able too, because in Thailand I had a girlfriend that took up so much of my time, and now this.

Seriously! I really wanna do that! :D

Not because I don't like people(well I do), but I'd rather spend most of my day working on stuff.

Because of two loud and obnoxious kids, I can't concentrate because my work area is in the kitchen, where my sister also happens to listen to terrible music when she cleans and/or cooks. I only get to relax/have maximum productivity when the kids are gone. However when I get paid this week, I'm gonna re-arrange the room I sleep in and buy a table, so I can set my day up to only venture out of the room to #1/2, buy groceries and eat. I might even buy a lock to the door, so those annoying kids can't just run in and cause me grief, as they often do. Otherwise I'll be hard at work on projects for my clients. :D When it comes to the outside world, I'm not a social butterfly. I'm not needed there and I have nothing to offer such worthless people, and I know this. So let me grind for riches dammit! :lol:
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Re: The advantage of living a socially disconnected life

Postby aozora13 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:26 pm

C.J. wrote:
Voice of Reason wrote:I just wish I could lock myself up for twelve hours a day for a month or two and get things done. Lately I haven't been able too, because in Thailand I had a girlfriend that took up so much of my time, and now this.

Seriously! I really wanna do that! :D

Not because I don't like people(well I do), but I'd rather spend most of my day working on stuff.

Because of two loud and obnoxious kids, I can't concentrate because my work area is in the kitchen, where my sister also happens to listen to terrible music when she cleans and/or cooks. I only get to relax/have maximum productivity when the kids are gone. However when I get paid this week, I'm gonna re-arrange the room I sleep in and buy a table, so I can set my day up to only venture out of the room to #1/2, buy groceries and eat. I might even buy a lock to the door, so those annoying kids can't just run in and cause me grief, as they often do. Otherwise I'll be hard at work on projects for my clients. :D When it comes to the outside world, I'm not a social butterfly. I'm not needed there and I have nothing to offer such worthless people, and I know this. So let me grind for riches dammit! :lol:


+1

I was thinking about this too how I am wondering why I need to be social. I currently work in IT as a NOC Engineer/Jr. System Admin. It is shift work where we have to do both tasks. I have the worst shift by far (involves working weekends). People usually are astonished that I say I do not go out as much on my days off. It is partly because it is a Sunday/Monday which is not good and the other part is that I am usually a quiet guy who is not too much of a social butterfly. Also, Americans as a whole are not 'honestly' friendly. I have tried in the past to be socialable to workers and usually although there are people who are geeky, they usually rarely go out and say goodbye. I think though with my trying to improve my current career and possibly work on ideas of how I can leave this country is more better goals than try to drink with people on late Saturday nights when I can do other things.
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Re: The advantage of living a socially disconnected life

Postby mguy » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:29 pm

aozora13 wrote:
C.J. wrote:
Voice of Reason wrote:I just wish I could lock myself up for twelve hours a day for a month or two and get things done. Lately I haven't been able too, because in Thailand I had a girlfriend that took up so much of my time, and now this.

Seriously! I really wanna do that! :D

Not because I don't like people(well I do), but I'd rather spend most of my day working on stuff.

Because of two loud and obnoxious kids, I can't concentrate because my work area is in the kitchen, where my sister also happens to listen to terrible music when she cleans and/or cooks. I only get to relax/have maximum productivity when the kids are gone. However when I get paid this week, I'm gonna re-arrange the room I sleep in and buy a table, so I can set my day up to only venture out of the room to #1/2, buy groceries and eat. I might even buy a lock to the door, so those annoying kids can't just run in and cause me grief, as they often do. Otherwise I'll be hard at work on projects for my clients. :D When it comes to the outside world, I'm not a social butterfly. I'm not needed there and I have nothing to offer such worthless people, and I know this. So let me grind for riches dammit! :lol:


+1

I was thinking about this too how I am wondering why I need to be social. I currently work in IT as a NOC Engineer/Jr. System Admin. It is shift work where we have to do both tasks. I have the worst shift by far (involves working weekends). People usually are astonished that I say I do not go out as much on my days off. It is partly because it is a Sunday/Monday which is not good and the other part is that I am usually a quiet guy who is not too much of a social butterfly. Also, Americans as a whole are not 'honestly' friendly. I have tried in the past to be socialable to workers and usually although there are people who are geeky, they usually rarely go out and say goodbye. I think though with my trying to improve my current career and possibly work on ideas of how I can leave this country is more better goals than try to drink with people on late Saturday nights when I can do other things.



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Postby Ghost » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:39 pm

Living at home and not having a job is when my creativity peaks.

Jobs burn out excess energy and creativity, which is most of it.

Having a job has some advantages, but having freedom and time is far more beneficial to a mind than a steady paycheck.

I'm determined not to have to rely on jobs forever. Each one is a step. And the goal is independence from the grind of the rat race.
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Postby Voice of Reason » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:40 pm

Ghost wrote:Living at home and not having a job is when my creativity peaks.

Jobs burn out excess energy and creativity, which is most of it.

Having a job has some advantages, but having freedom and time is far more beneficial to a mind than a steady paycheck.

I'm determined not to have to rely on jobs forever. Each one is a step. And the goal is independence from the grind of the rat race.


Yes, I noticed that too. Even when I was working a job for 4 hours a day, it made it hard to do anything for the rest of the day because it burnt out my mental energy.

If you're stuck in an eight hour job, the best thing to do is save up as much as you can, then go and live in a country that is cheaper to live, which will give you more time to build up a skill that people will pay you for (I think it is better to build up a skill first that you can freelance with, as opposed to building a niche site for the sake of building a niche site).
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Postby Rich » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:34 am

Good advice, voice of reason. Every person working a 9-5 should read the book "Your money or your life". Life is precious - work as hard you can and earn as much as you can over as short a period of time as possible. Don't waste money on material possessions. Achieve financial independence. Give up "work" and pursue what you really love.
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Re: The advantage of living a socially disconnected life

Postby aozora13 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:57 am

mguy wrote:
aozora13 wrote:
C.J. wrote:
Voice of Reason wrote:I just wish I could lock myself up for twelve hours a day for a month or two and get things done. Lately I haven't been able too, because in Thailand I had a girlfriend that took up so much of my time, and now this.

Seriously! I really wanna do that! :D

Not because I don't like people(well I do), but I'd rather spend most of my day working on stuff.

Because of two loud and obnoxious kids, I can't concentrate because my work area is in the kitchen, where my sister also happens to listen to terrible music when she cleans and/or cooks. I only get to relax/have maximum productivity when the kids are gone. However when I get paid this week, I'm gonna re-arrange the room I sleep in and buy a table, so I can set my day up to only venture out of the room to #1/2, buy groceries and eat. I might even buy a lock to the door, so those annoying kids can't just run in and cause me grief, as they often do. Otherwise I'll be hard at work on projects for my clients. :D When it comes to the outside world, I'm not a social butterfly. I'm not needed there and I have nothing to offer such worthless people, and I know this. So let me grind for riches dammit! :lol:


+1

I was thinking about this too how I am wondering why I need to be social. I currently work in IT as a NOC Engineer/Jr. System Admin. It is shift work where we have to do both tasks. I have the worst shift by far (involves working weekends). People usually are astonished that I say I do not go out as much on my days off. It is partly because it is a Sunday/Monday which is not good and the other part is that I am usually a quiet guy who is not too much of a social butterfly. Also, Americans as a whole are not 'honestly' friendly. I have tried in the past to be socialable to workers and usually although there are people who are geeky, they usually rarely go out and say goodbye. I think though with my trying to improve my current career and possibly work on ideas of how I can leave this country is more better goals than try to drink with people on late Saturday nights when I can do other things.



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Thanks for the advice. However, I was forced into this job from a contract company. I am trying to do normal System Administration work.
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