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SE Asia vs. Latin America

Post by Jester » August 23rd, 2013, 5:02 pm

http://www.gringos.com/forum/f66/south- ... ving-9774/

What's the best for travel and or retirement; South America or Asia?

There are pros and cons of each:
South America: Mostly they speak one language. Even in Brazil they usually understand Spanish, and more than SEA they understand English. I believe there are more adventurous things to do in South America: Sand boarding in Peru, Parasailing in Chile, Glacier trekking in Argentina. SEA's sports seem to be mostly water sports and scuba diving as well as chasing girls. In SA you can usually just trade paperback novels, but in SEA you usually have to pay more than a new book would cost back home to get a badly copied book. But with all the sexy chicks in Asia, who's going to spend a lot of time reading anyway? SA has fewer visas (more for Americans) than SEA. Air pollution is less of a problem in SA (except for Lima). There are various climates instead of wet and dry only.

South East Asia: There's less of a chance of getting robbed in SEA, if you go to Quito chances are you WILL be robbed. It's much cheaper, probably $15-$25 per day per person instead of $20-$50 in SA. Flights on Air Asia are super cheap, where as in SA they are ridiculously expensive. Amount of time spent on buses is less because SA is so huge.

So what is everyone's vote or thoughts? South America or Asia???


PS Winston why is there STILL no forum for comparing different continents?




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Post by Jester » August 23rd, 2013, 5:35 pm

Here's another on this topic:

http://forum.expat-chronicles.com/showt ... hp?tid=194

Colombia and Peru are actually poorer than Thailand. But comparing the two is apples and oranges. The main difference is that Latin America and Gringolandia have a lot more in common. Religion plays a huge role in a country’s culture. And in the case of the US and Canada, the history of European colonialism as well as geographic proximity put the cultures much closer culturally. So I think a natural attraction and chemistry between Latin people and “Westernersâ€￾ is more likely. I’m sure there are plenty of “Westernerâ€￾-Asian couples out there that are completely functional, but my impression is that there’s so little in common culturally, in language, culture, values, family. Those couples seem a lot more forced to me, and one of the two would have to completely adopt the culture of the other for it to work. Not necessarily so different between Latin and Gringo culture.

Another difference off the top of my head when it comes to Asia, and granted I’ve only been to China, but I found Asians to believe they’re more evolved than white people. They look at us like monkeys. In Latin America it’s the opposite. White is cherished to the point of ridiculousness, especially evident in the lack of Indian faces in Peruvian television. Indian is disowned, as is black. Over 50% in each South American country (Central America, Caribbean, Mexico not included) identify themselves as “white.â€￾

But yes, there are many desperate Latin women who get on the internet dating sites hunting for a gringo husband just to get out.



I suspect that Asian women are more likely to marry foreigners for non-amorous reasons than are latinas. The focus, however, I don't think is on the visa as such but on the wealth a foreigner has access to in his home country. In most of the foreign man-Asian woman couples I saw, the woman had no intention of leaving her home country. She wanted to flaunt her lifestyle and chattels around her own breed.

As sort of quantitative evidence, here is an interesting article titled "In China, White Man Loses Mojo" from 2009. The percentage of Chinese women open to a foreign man surveyed on a dating website dropped from 42 to 16 percent in a year's time. The reason: the financial crisis. Foreign (Western) men aren't seen as cash cows like they used to be.

Additionally, the idea of marrying for love seems far more pervasive in Latin America than it does in Asia. In Asia (or China at least), marrying for love is seen as childishly idealistic. Chinese women I have spoken with boasted of their "practical" attitude toward marriage. In fact, when a Chinese women does not receive a house and car upon tying the knot, it is called a "naked marriage" and is controversial.

Some of the same thinking seems to afflict Japan, Vietnam and Korea. (Although it's hard for me to say as to the rest of the ASEAN countries.)
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Post by zboy1 » August 23rd, 2013, 7:19 pm

I've said it time and time again...Asian women are a bit overrated by a lot of men. If I had the opportunity to choose between a Latina or an Asian female, I would choose the Latina easily...

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Post by chibolo » August 23rd, 2013, 7:47 pm

Jester wrote:Here's another on this topic:


I suspect that Asian women are more likely to marry foreigners for non-amorous reasons than are latinas. The focus, however, I don't think is on the visa as such but on the wealth a foreigner has access to in his home country. In most of the foreign man-Asian woman couples I saw, the woman had no intention of leaving her home country. She wanted to flaunt her lifestyle and chattels around her own breed.

As sort of quantitative evidence, here is an interesting article titled "In China, White Man Loses Mojo" from 2009. The percentage of Chinese women open to a foreign man surveyed on a dating website dropped from 42 to 16 percent in a year's time. The reason: the financial crisis. Foreign (Western) men aren't seen as cash cows like they used to be.

Additionally, the idea of marrying for love seems far more pervasive in Latin America than it does in Asia. In Asia (or China at least), marrying for love is seen as childishly idealistic. Chinese women I have spoken with boasted of their "practical" attitude toward marriage. In fact, when a Chinese women does not receive a house and car upon tying the knot, it is called a "naked marriage" and is controversial.

Some of the same thinking seems to afflict Japan, Vietnam and Korea. (Although it's hard for me to say as to the rest of the ASEAN countries.)


I get this impression too. You can test this by joining online dating sites like Latin American Cupid and Filipina Cupid. When I posted my profile at the latin sites I got a decent amount of interest. However, when I joined Filipina Cupid I was absolutely FLOODED with interest and messages (like 50 or more per day!). This gives me the impression that Filipinas are a lot less picky and don't really care who they marry/date as long as he has money. Latinas would also like to marry or date a gringo with money, but it is not the only thing that matters. They want someone they really like as well. Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that Filipinas don't really care as much and would take just about anyone.

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Post by ContraMundumRants » August 23rd, 2013, 8:07 pm

zboy1 wrote:I've said it time and time again...Asian women are a bit overrated by a lot of men. If I had the opportunity to choose between a Latina or an Asian female, I would choose the Latina easily...


The real competition is between Latinas and Eastern European/Russian women.

Now that would require its own thread!

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Post by Jester » August 23rd, 2013, 8:31 pm

zboy1 wrote:I've said it time and time again...Asian women are a bit overrated by a lot of men. If I had the opportunity to choose between a Latina or an Asian female, I would choose the Latina easily...


A little surprised to hear this -- arent you Korean-Am living in NYC? Yet embarking on a vacation to SEA soon, rather than choosing nearby DR or Medellin? Or even Asian-loving Lima?

But OK. Probably reasons or all that. Anyway, thanks for the clear feedback. Considering your ethnic background, it carries that much more weight.

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Post by Jester » August 23rd, 2013, 8:36 pm

chibolo wrote:
I get this impression too. You can test this by joining online dating sites like Latin American Cupid and Filipina Cupid. When I posted my profile at the latin sites I got a decent amount of interest. However, when I joined Filipina Cupid I was absolutely FLOODED with interest and messages (like 50 or more per day!). This gives me the impression that Filipinas are a lot less picky and don't really care who they marry/date as long as he has money. Latinas would also like to marry or date a gringo with money, but it is not the only thing that matters. They want someone they really like as well. Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that Filipinas don't really care as much and would take just about anyone.


Your comment gave me pause. I've been on both sites you mention, and had the same experience as you on both. MY reaction had been that the Phils were therefore a GOOD place. Your interpretation puts quite a different spin on it. Interesting.

Thanks for the feedback.

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Post by Jester » August 23rd, 2013, 8:47 pm

ContraMundumRants wrote:
zboy1 wrote:I've said it time and time again...Asian women are a bit overrated by a lot of men. If I had the opportunity to choose between a Latina or an Asian female, I would choose the Latina easily...


The real competition is between Latinas and Eastern European/Russian women.

Now that would require its own thread!


Good point. If you want say a great waist-to-hip ratio, or track-and-field style athleticism, you could look in Ukraine OR Medellin I guess.

Neither one of those traits seems real common in many Asian countries.

Kind of hard to describe, but I have this preference for women who know they're hot. I don't want a woman who will feel inferior to other women at a party. That's something important to me. I like to be hard on a woman, demanding, teasing, etc. But if someone has confidence in herself deep down then she is more likely to be able to handle me.

So when you rate Latinas as competition to EE girls, that touches something in me. I do want a woman who feels deep down like she's world class.

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Post by pete98146 » August 24th, 2013, 12:35 am

Great topic here! I've been to both South America and Asia and I'm really fond of both for different reasons. This was the reason why I was so drawn to Filipinas because at least to me, they are the perfect combination of both. We've argued back and forth about the percentage of Spanish blood contained by the Filipinos but there are definitely ones that look a bit more Spanish. They tend not to have the "Filipino nose" and have a longer more angular face and rounder eyes. Along with the good lucks comes the Latin fire and temper tho :shock:

Just wanted to throw that out there for guys to ponder.

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Post by Jeremy » August 24th, 2013, 12:37 am

I know I'd do well in the Philippines just based on my look alone. Unfortunately, even though I'm not a racist, my dick is. That's why my only option is Eastern Europe.

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Post by chibolo » August 24th, 2013, 1:01 am

Jeremy wrote:I know I'd do well in the Philippines just based on my look alone. Unfortunately, even though I'm not a racist, my dick is. That's why my only option is Eastern Europe.


Well if you really only like white women, then you can find those in South America too. Argentina is mostly white (Italian and Spanish). Also, upper-class women in most poor South American countries are almost always white as well.

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Post by Jeremy » August 24th, 2013, 1:18 am

chibolo wrote:
Jeremy wrote:I know I'd do well in the Philippines just based on my look alone. Unfortunately, even though I'm not a racist, my dick is. That's why my only option is Eastern Europe.


Well if you really only like white women, then you can find those in South America too. Argentina is mostly white (Italian and Spanish). Also, upper-class women in most poor South American countries are almost always white as well.


Yeah, true. One of my dad's friends went on a sex vacation to Argentina, and he loved it.

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Post by Banano » August 24th, 2013, 1:54 am

Sex vacation in Argentina? p4p you mean?

Argentina is one of the hardest places to pick up regular women, Argentian men are more like Italians, stylish, slick, have 'game'..they make average American man look like a peasant ... Roosh confirmed


SEA vs SA women,
SEA women are much easier to get in bed and that's about the only advantage they have;
Latinas on the other hand have better bodies+ variety of colors.body shapes and are more intelligent, not as desperate
Comparing Brazilian chick to Filipina is like comparing Mercedes AMG to VW Golf


EE vs SA would be tighter race

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Post by Jeremy » August 24th, 2013, 2:28 am

Banano wrote:Sex vacation in Argentina? p4p you mean?


Considering he's in his 60's, yeah, I'm assuming p4p.

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Post by Jester » August 24th, 2013, 3:01 am

pete98146 wrote:
Great topic here! I've been to both South America and Asia and I'm really fond of both for different reasons.


Hmmm......... such as?? Inquiring minds.............. :wink:

pete98146 wrote:
This was the reason why I was so drawn to Filipinas because at least to me, they are the perfect combination of both. We've argued back and forth about the percentage of Spanish blood contained by the Filipinos but there are definitely ones that look a bit more Spanish. They tend not to have the "Filipino nose" and have a longer more angular face and rounder eyes.

Clear and unabashed, thanks for speaking frankly.

pete98146 wrote:
Along with the good lucks comes the Latin fire and temper tho :shock:

Just wanted to throw that out there for guys to ponder.


:lol: Kinda wishing u hadna said that Pete.....

BTW isnt your wife a Colombiana?

EDIT: SORRY I JUST SAW ON ANOTHER THREAD SHE IS FROM MINDANAO!! Guess I get those mouthwatering shangri-la destinations mixed up.
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