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Who here has this issue with languages?

Postby theprimebait » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:38 pm

Like you can find a place amazing,food,cuisine,environment ,philosophy but the language spoken sounds like torture music?so you don't wanna go there?

I used to wanna go to vietnam when I was into buddhism,but I found the language unbearable.it sounded like ducks.

I used to wanna go to Russia as a teen,but I found the language too unbearable to listen to.

does anyone consider sound Aesthetic important when visiting a land?

does anyone of you also like a place more if the language sounds nice?do you think its superficial?

I'm very sensitive to sound,does anyone have such sensitivity?
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Postby Renata » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:46 pm

It's not superficial. Some languages come across as 'noise' & can be annoying. I don't like Turkish at all, but I like listening to the persians & arabs here. I love spanish, the language & the music.
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Re: Who here has this issue with languages?

Postby kai1275 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:00 pm

theprimebait wrote:Like you can find a place amazing,food,cuisine,environment ,philosophy but the language spoken sounds like torture music?so you don't wanna go there?

I used to wanna go to vietnam when I was into buddhism,but I found the language unbearable.it sounded like ducks.

I used to wanna go to Russia as a teen,but I found the language too unbearable to listen to.

does anyone consider sound Aesthetic important when visiting a land?

does anyone of you also like a place more if the language sounds nice?do you think its superficial?

I'm very sensitive to sound,does anyone have such sensitivity?


Many languages sound strange to me too. Mandarin, sometimes sounds like people are saying niggah, niggah, because (na ge = "that"). Other words sound downright strange and the tones......f**k! the tones are TOOOOO HARD to get right once you get the basics down, that it just becomes downright frustrating.

Russian is even harder than Mandarin, and that was reason enough for me to avoid it. Arabic makes me want to giggle sometimes because the words sound funny. French is off-putting to me because you kinda have to use an attitude to even speak it correctly.

I strongly agree with you about Vietnamese. I always thought it sounded like ducks or trying to play word ping pong with your throat...
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Re: Who here has this issue with languages?

Postby Jester » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:52 pm

kai1275 wrote:

Many languages sound strange to me too. Mandarin, sometimes sounds like people are saying niggah, niggah, because (na ge = "that").


:lol:

Sounds like a comedy scene from the next Jackie Chan / Chris Tucker "Rush Hour" movie.
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Postby Jester » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:56 pm

Renata wrote:It's not superficial. Some languages come across as 'noise' & can be annoying. I don't like Turkish at all, but I like listening to the persians & arabs here. I love spanish, the language & the music.


I agree with your picks, and would add French and Brazilian Portugese.

But region matters too. Some Mexican Spanish sounds harsh and American compared to RioPlatense Spanish from Argentina.
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Postby skateboardstephen » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:15 pm

Jester wrote:
Renata wrote:It's not superficial. Some languages come across as 'noise' & can be annoying. I don't like Turkish at all, but I like listening to the persians & arabs here. I love spanish, the language & the music.


I agree with your picks, and would add French and Brazilian Portugese.

But region matters too. Some Mexican Spanish sounds harsh and American compared to RioPlatense Spanish from Argentina.
Portuguese why is that???People all ways say that Brazilian Portuguese sounds bad..but i don't think so..maybe it's because you don't understand it.It is hard to understand...but Portuguese...nah man..i can't agree with you.
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Postby aozora13 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:26 pm

Mexican Spanish does sound a little harsh at times but it reallly depends on the region as Mexico DF will be different than lets say Guadalajara lets say.

I am not sure about Brazillian Portguese. It is better if you are okay in Spanish because some words and prounciation are the same.
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Postby ladislav » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:30 pm

Vietnamese... sounded like ducks.


It sounded like ducks to you. Don't say it to the VNese, please.

Russian... unbearable to listen to


Unbearable for you Don't say that to the Russians, please.

If a pretty girls speaks it, it sounds sexy and you'll like it. So, just get over it.

Once you get into the meaning of the language and get used to it as a tool, the aesthetic antipathy will soon go away. So will the mockery and resistance to it and you will see its beauty after a while. After all, the natives do not have a problem with it-- they don't even notice it-- and neither should you. Those people were born into that language, they did not invent it. They somehow like it. And so should you.

Learning a language is a big investment of time and mental power, though. It took me a year and a half to master conversational street Arabic. But Brits at my company in Saudi never studied even a word of it and they went on to bigger jobs, higher salaries and wonderful lives. So a bigger problem would actually be- is it really necessary? Most English speaking peoples never learn a foreign language and live in foreign countries for decades-- Brits are notorious for that. They have no problems.

There seems to be an inverse relationship between the beauty of the language and its usefulness as far as a tool to get money and girls.

When I was a kid, I thought English sounded almost inhuman---like dogs growling and barking-- r-r-r, bow wow, r-r-r bow bow! I hated English. Sounded so barbaric.

The resistance to something "xeno" is a natural thing and is with us from tribal times. Overcome it!

I had to learn English not by choice but by necessity regardless of how I "felt". There's no room for feelings here. So you suppress the feelings. Just like I don't like the green color of the dollar- I like my money to be multicolored like in most other countries. But I have to deal with it and get used to it.

Conclusion: if you want to learn it, start studying. You will slowly become accustomed to it and the feeling will go away. Get a young female on some language exchange site to practice with you and it will go away even faster.
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Postby aozora13 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:40 pm

ladislav wrote:If a pretty girls speaks it, it sounds sexy and you'll like it. So, just get over it.

Once you get into the meaning of the language and get used to it as a tool, the aesthetic antipathy will slowly go away. After all, the natives do not have a problem with it-- they don't even notice it-- and neither should you.

Learning a language is a big investment of time and mental power. So a bigger problem would actually be- is it really necessary. Most English speaking peoples never learn a foreign language and live in foreign countries for decades-- the Brits are notorious for that. They have no problems.

When I was a kid, I thought English sounded like dogs growling and barking-- r-r-r, bow wow, r-r-r bow bow! I hated English. Sounded so barbaric- so much like what some Vikings would speak.

The resistance to something "xeno" is a natural thing and is with us from tribal times. Overcome it!

I had to learn English not by choice but by necessity regardless of how I "felt". There's no room for feelings here. So you suppress the feeling. Just like I don't like the green color of the dollar- I like my money to be multicolored like in most other countries. But I have to deal with it and get used to it.

Conclusion: if you want to learn it, start studying. You will slowly become accustomed to it and the feeling will go away. Get a young female on some language exchange site to practice with you and it will go away even faster.


Ladislav,

I was only saying generally. However, if you want to talk about languages that does not sound good even when able to speak in a conversation, German is that. I know German but usualy when speaking it, sounds a little harsh not soft. Romance languages such as Spanish are not bad to her but sometimes the woman go rapid fire in the language compared to men. (another point is that I see this in almost every language. It most be a universal thing).

Yes, I did hear a girl speak it. It is not bad when having fun together so it various. Also you are correct about English speaking people (US/CA (outside of Quebec), Australia, NZ, UK) genearlly avoid learning a language, even as easy as Spanish. Russian is difficult and learning Chinese (Mandarin) is a huge obstacle but it can be done.

If you are living in a country and need it then you should learn it. It is not right to be living lets say in Vienna and not speak German with the locals but there are many English (UK) who do because it is not difficult and there are plenty of opportunities to just live there without learning the language. I met Americans too who do this. :?

Spanish speaking countries are much different in that you do need to learn the language to actually have a good life there as many do not know English or take English classes. Lastly, people told me that English does not good either but it is softer than some languages.
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Postby Jester » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:50 am

skateboardstephen wrote:
Jester wrote:
Renata wrote:It's not superficial. Some languages come across as 'noise' & can be annoying. I don't like Turkish at all, but I like listening to the persians & arabs here. I love spanish, the language & the music.


I agree with your picks, and would add French and Brazilian Portugese.

But region matters too. Some Mexican Spanish sounds harsh and American compared to RioPlatense Spanish from Argentina.
Portuguese why is that???People all ways say that Brazilian Portuguese sounds bad..but i don't think so..maybe it's because you don't understand it.It is hard to understand...but Portuguese...nah man..i can't agree with you.


Naw Stephen u got me wrong -- I LIKE the Brazilian sound - drips like honey
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Postby zboy1 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:06 am

Asian languages are the most difficult to learn. Unless you grew up speaking an Asian language or studied it in a university, it is very difficult to learn as an adult. What makes it more difficult is that East Asian languages require knowledge of Asian characters unlike Western languages such as German, French or Spanish--that use English characters.
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Postby Rock » Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:32 am

theprimebait wrote:Like you can find a place amazing,food,cuisine,environment ,philosophy but the language spoken sounds like torture music?so you don't wanna go there?

I used to wanna go to vietnam when I was into buddhism,but I found the language unbearable.it sounded like ducks.

I used to wanna go to Russia as a teen,but I found the language too unbearable to listen to.

does anyone consider sound Aesthetic important when visiting a land?

does anyone of you also like a place more if the language sounds nice?do you think its superficial?

I'm very sensitive to sound,does anyone have such sensitivity?


You wanna stop hearing what certain languages sound like. The solution is simple, learn to understand the language in question and u will no longer hear what it sounds like. Cus your brain will focus on the meanings. To this day, I have no idea what standard American English sounds like cus when people speak it, my brain is thinking of whatever is being said. I used to know what Mandarin sounded like but that's a distant memory cus now I understand it. So if u wanna stop hearing the noise created by an language that may sound weird to you (perhaps Vietnamese, Cantonese, Tagalog, German, etc.), just learn the language, lol.
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Postby ContraMundumRants » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:02 pm

I don't understand the issues some people have with languages.

As ladislav has said, if a hot girl speaks the language, I am going to go all-out
to try to learn her language.

The other benefit of knowing foreign languages which no one has mentioned is
the kind of dirty talk you can get to do while having sex.

I am a native Spaniard, so when I have sex with a girl who doesn't speak Spanish,
I start uttering dirty things in Spanish, and she goes crazy! You would have
to see it to believe it.
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Postby theprimebait » Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:33 pm

I like Japanese,brazilian portuguese,boricua spanish,spanish spanish,Turkish,persian,levantine arabic,Hebrew.my fav sounding language is by far modern Hebrew.I like french,and I like estonian.

I don't like english,except australian wich I love alot.southern american accents are sexy on women though.I don't like Arabic at all,although lebanese arabic is oke.


Dutch,swedish,noregian .lol horrible


but I guess ladislav is right,when I first learned dutch,it sounded so hard.I could not comprehend how people learn it.now I speak it like a native and it sounds good.
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