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Post by Jeremy » August 29th, 2013, 8:05 pm

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Post by zacb » August 29th, 2013, 8:47 pm

Moretorque wrote:
Jester wrote:
zacb wrote:You can blame Keynsianism and too much credit. Keynsianism for obvious reasons, and for too much credit due to the need for otherwise undefendible companies (ie not having a profit with the tech companies or no income to pay).
True, it's like a new form of off-the-books government spending. Pension funds etc tapped to fuel companies (Amazon, facebook, etc) that serve their purposes.
There is nothing new about it, they want you to believe it's new. They have unlimited funds via counterfeiting and do not want the masses to understand this. What they are doing by taking the pension funds is getting rid of a stable middle class so nobody can challenge their rule. They do not have to touch any of the retirement accounts. The FED can just print the money and does.

It's all about wealth transfer to the state via an accounting gimmick, slickest con ever, the world has never seen anything like this.
True. Reminds me of what Rothbard said about Classical Liberals becoming conservatives, and vice versa. the ideas are the same, just repackaged to target a certain part of society. But in the end, it is all redistribution.
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Post by Moretorque » August 29th, 2013, 9:00 pm

zacb wrote:
Moretorque wrote:
Jester wrote:
zacb wrote:You can blame Keynsianism and too much credit. Keynsianism for obvious reasons, and for too much credit due to the need for otherwise undefendible companies (ie not having a profit with the tech companies or no income to pay).
True, it's like a new form of off-the-books government spending. Pension funds etc tapped to fuel companies (Amazon, facebook, etc) that serve their purposes.
There is nothing new about it, they want you to believe it's new. They have unlimited funds via counterfeiting and do not want the masses to understand this. What they are doing by taking the pension funds is getting rid of a stable middle class so nobody can challenge their rule. They do not have to touch any of the retirement accounts. The FED can just print the money and does.

It's all about wealth transfer to the state via an accounting gimmick, slickest con ever, the world has never seen anything like this.
True. Reminds me of what Rothbard said about Classical Liberals becoming conservatives, and vice versa. the ideas are the same, just repackaged to target a certain part of society. But in the end, it is all redistribution.
They redistribute it into their own pockets for the most part, here is how it works, 1 for the people of the world which is 7 billion and one for us the ruling elite which is 1000 and then it goes as time goes on 1 for 7 billion and 2 for us the 1000 and so on until the producers throw the towel in and it all collapses. They know this so they are desperately trying to keep the theft from toppling the whole thing.

I like Murray and you have got to like some Ashkenazi Jews for this reason, some of them rat their own out because they realize this con is plain wrong.
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Post by Jester » August 29th, 2013, 10:30 pm

Moretorque wrote:
I like Murray and you have got to like some Ashkenazi Jews for this reason, some of them rat their own out because they realize this con is plain wrong.
Not every Italian is a mafioso. In fact most aren't. But a lot of them used to get defensive when the Italian Mafia got discussed.

Still a lot of the real heroes of fighting the Mafia have been Italian.

Truth is where you find it. Credit where credit is due. Same for Jews, same for Whites and so on.

I always advocate dealing with bad guys of my own race first.

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Post by Moretorque » August 30th, 2013, 1:13 am

Jester wrote:
Moretorque wrote:
I like Murray and you have got to like some Ashkenazi Jews for this reason, some of them rat their own out because they realize this con is plain wrong.
Not every Italian is a mafioso. In fact most aren't. But a lot of them used to get defensive when the Italian Mafia got discussed.

Still a lot of the real heroes of fighting the Mafia have been Italian.

Truth is where you find it. Credit where credit is due. Same for Jews, same for Whites and so on.

I always advocate dealing with bad guys of my own race first.
The thing is most Jews are not simetic, and our rulers know this. They have all the knowledge and real history locked away from prying eyes do not kid yourself.
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Post by Tsar » August 30th, 2013, 3:28 am

I know I wouldn't like working a serf job. Many Americans are happy doing that gives them 40 hour work weeks, no or low benefits, unreasonable healthcare costs, high income taxes, declining real incomes, and little or no vacation time. This sort of job wouldn't appeal to me and I know I would be fired for complaining at the reviews for demanding an income and giving a presentation about how underpaid I was compared to the costs of living in the country, while the managers and executives get comfortable salaries.

Working for someone else 40 hours per week and earning $45,000 (which becomes about $36,500) is the work of a serf. People are in debt, they get little vacation time, and they enrich the managers and executives that earn huge salaries, bonuses, profit sharing, stock options, and benefit from shares of stock. The same serfs can also be laid off at any time and their vacation time must be approved by management. A person working for themselves and earning $30,000/year and not reporting any of the income would be much better and more rewarding.

Many other countries have 4 day work weeks, shorter workdays, more benefits, affordable national healthcare plans and keep costs down (unlike America's pathetic excuse for a national healthcare system called Obamacare), and many have minimum vacation time for their people (4-6 weeks+paid holidays, and possible unpaid holidays).

I know that if I had employment in America I would also tell the company I would be taking vacation paid or not if I felt like it. One thing I will not do is be poorly treated and accept things just because I would be afraid to lose a job. I'd rather be fired than be an unhappy serf. Too many Americans rather be a an unhappy serf than lose their job.

When I finally leave I'll be happy I won't have to live in the oppressive and corrupt United Serfdom of America.

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Post by Tsar » August 30th, 2013, 3:32 am

www.PaycheckCity.com is a good website for determining incomes after taxes.

List of statutory minimum employment leave by country: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_st ... by_country

United States: No Minimum

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Post by Cornfed » August 30th, 2013, 3:36 am

Tsar wrote:I know I wouldn't like working a serf job. Many Americans are happy doing that gives them 40 hour work weeks, no or low benefits, unreasonable healthcare costs, high income taxes, declining real incomes, and little or no vacation time. This sort of job wouldn't appeal to me and I know I would be fired for complaining at the reviews for demanding an income and giving a presentation about how underpaid I was compared to the costs of living in the country, while the managers and executives get comfortable salaries.

Working for someone else 40 hours per week and earning $45,000 (which becomes about $36,500) is the work of a serf.
Well, that has been the life of most men in advanced societies though out history. You have the wealthy elite at the top living in luxury, their favoured whores and goons being paid OK and most men on the bottom starving, working their fingers to the bone and being shat on by everyone. There was a time when Germanic men resisted this because they thought they had rights. Not any more, it would seem.

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