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The irony of men who justify prostitution

Postby Winston » August 30th, 2013, 6:59 am

Have you noticed this irony and/or hypocrisy of us men who justify prostitution?

On the one hand, we can come up with good logical arguments for justifying prostitution as not immoral or wrong. We can argue that it's between consenting adults, and that it serves as an outlet for horny men who can't get sex anytime they want. Thus it's good for men to have a release for their urges anytime they want, especially if we are men. So it's good for it to be legal and available.

But on the other hand, none of us would ever want our daughters to become prostitutes. And none of us would like it if we found out that our mother was a prostitute before either. We would look down on women in our family if we found out that they were prostitutes as somehow "degrading".

So isn't that ironic and somewhat hypocritical?

How can we logically justify this then?

I guess life is not always logically consistent or fair. Everyone is a hypocrite in some way, if you want to look for inconsistency in everyone. And double standards are a part of our existence. You can see them everywhere if you want to look for them. There's no fairness or consistency, except in our own minds. Isn't that right?
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Postby Cornfed » August 30th, 2013, 7:30 am

The real irony is you posting this thread. It is quite simple: ~90% of females should be wives whereas ~10% should be hoes. And there is nothing inherently wrong with females being hoes. In sane societies, they served as the actresses, entertainers, were often educated in order to be good conversationalists and generally contributed a great deal to society. Some females are just more suited to this role than the wife role. The best of them are awesome as people. In general I would want my daughters to be wives, but if they were not suited to the role for whatever reason, I would want them to be high quality hoes. This is how human society functions.
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Postby Winston » August 30th, 2013, 7:35 am

You're the only one who says that Cornfed. I don't know any guy who would want his daughter to be a whore. Come on now. Get real. You're probably just saying that too. You'd lose respect for her if she did.

I'm just saying that this is one of life's many ironies, and asking for a way to justify it.
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Postby Jester » August 30th, 2013, 7:41 am

If you're Cornfed, life is simple.

If you're Winston, life is confusing.
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Postby Banano » August 30th, 2013, 8:13 am

I wouldn't want my daughter/sister to be a how however if I was born as woman I would be one, high class hoe, .

I always thought sluts are stupid for doing it for free when they could charge for it. Either way their reputation is ruined.
Yes, sluts chose who they have sex with but high class hoes can be picky too. I'm not talking about street/brothel low life hoes.
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Postby Cornfed » August 30th, 2013, 10:52 am

Winston wrote:You're the only one who says that Cornfed. I don't know any guy who would want his daughter to be a whore.

In reality, most Western men are reconciled to the fact that their daughters will be low quality whores of one form or another.
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Postby Banano » August 30th, 2013, 11:09 am

Cornfed wrote:
Winston wrote:You're the only one who says that Cornfed. I don't know any guy who would want his daughter to be a whore.

In reality, most Western men are reconciled to the fact that their daughters will be low quality whores of one form or another.



LOL..so funny, so true :roll:
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Postby Ghost » August 30th, 2013, 2:04 pm

I get the feeling that if Winston met a certain AW who treated him nicely and pushed just the right buttons, that he could be convinced to become a feminist. I hope I'm wrong...

No man would want his daughter to be a whore. But if she wouldn't or couldn't be a wife, it would be better for her to be a high class whore than be a corporate whore like women in the west...

Most women are whores or sluts now. I lament this everyday even though I've gotten out of the west for the time being.

The real irony is that western societies will never allow p4p while at the same time they throw their women into corporate whoredom.

A whore of another flavor is still a whore. Sigh.
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Postby S_Parc » August 30th, 2013, 2:38 pm

Ghost wrote:The real irony is that western societies will never allow p4p while


Actually, this is not correct; it's the USA, where it's not allowed.

In our peer Anglo nations: Australia, New Zealand, Britain (outcall), & Canada (outcall), it's permitted.
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Postby Contrarian Expatriate » August 30th, 2013, 2:54 pm

P4P is usually a criminal act and it has grave health implications for the men that engage in it.

I would say steer clear.
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Re: The irony of men who justify p4p

Postby kai1275 » August 30th, 2013, 3:12 pm

Winston wrote:Have you noticed this irony and/or hypocrisy of us men who justify p4p?

On the one hand, we can come up with good logical arguments for justifying p4p as not immoral or wrong. We can argue that it's between consenting adults, and that it serves as an outlet for horny men who can't get sex anytime they want. Thus it's good for men to have a release for their urges anytime they want, especially if we are men. So it's good for it to be legal and available.

But on the other hand, none of us would ever want our daughters to become hoes. And none of us would like it if we found out that our mother was a hoe before either. We would look down on women in our family if we found out that they were hoes as somehow "degrading".

So isn't that ironic and somewhat hypocritical?

How can we logically justify this then?

I guess life is not always logically consistent or fair. Everyone is a hypocrite in some way, if you want to look for inconsistency in everyone. And double standards are a part of our existence. You can see them everywhere if you want to look for them. There's no fairness or consistency, except in our own minds. Isn't that right?


Funny you mention this. Many guys that justify P4P, usually think God/Christianity is fake or false, as if God does not know what is best for all men either.... They cannot justify it. Even religious Christians in the past that justified it with racism, class discrimination, etc. eventually realized they were wrong too.

It is not good for society at all. It does not build anyone up or strengthen families. Family is the core of any functioning society, because let's face it. No one lives forever. If 120 years is the maximum, let's face it. An average of 74 is not that much better than the average 40 something men lived in the old days....

Prostitutes have always been some form of slavery/serfdom or discrimination when it was ever allowed to be legal. Usually toward a darker skin group, super poor group, or immigrant class.
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Postby C.J. » August 30th, 2013, 3:45 pm

Jester wrote:If you're Cornfed, life is simple.

If you're Winston, life is confusing.

I got the best laugh ever. You won't see it, but kudos to you! :)

Winston I give you props for realizing this. Maybe one day, you'll realize sex is a waste of time in most cases.

NAH! :lol:
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Re: The irony of men who justify p4p

Postby Renata » August 30th, 2013, 4:01 pm

Winston wrote:Have you noticed this irony and/or hypocrisy of us men who justify p4p?

On the one hand, we can come up with good logical arguments for justifying p4p as not immoral or wrong. We can argue that it's between consenting adults, and that it serves as an outlet for horny men who can't get sex anytime they want. Thus it's good for men to have a release for their urges anytime they want, especially if we are men. So it's good for it to be legal and available.

But on the other hand, none of us would ever want our daughters to become hoes. And none of us would like it if we found out that our mother was a hoe before either. We would look down on women in our family if we found out that they were hoes as somehow "degrading".

So isn't that ironic and somewhat hypocritical?

How can we logically justify this then?

I guess life is not always logically consistent or fair. Everyone is a hypocrite in some way, if you want to look for inconsistency in everyone. And double standards are a part of our existence. You can see them everywhere if you want to look for them. There's no fairness or consistency, except in our own minds. Isn't that right?


To summerise what you just said; Yes Every action, has a reaction. Men who blame women for every god damn thing are mis-informed. It's also a case of Supply & Demand. I will admit though that it's also a case of 'choice', a good woman wouldn't choose this as a profession.
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Postby anamericaninbangkok » August 30th, 2013, 4:10 pm

When all is said and done, young women eventually make their own choices, to be a straight up slut or not to be. That is the question.

BTW - P4P is not a criminal act in quite a few countries. Some places even have health standards. So...this too can be overcome.
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Postby Winston » August 30th, 2013, 5:15 pm

Just to clarify, I'm not saying that prostitution is wrong, immoral or unethical. I'm just saying that we men would not want our daughters to become one. So like I said, life is not free of double standards. Ironies and inconsistencies seem to be a part of life. That was my point. Not saying that prostitution is good or bad.
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