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Postby theprimebait » August 30th, 2013, 5:56 pm

good luck living your life by morality.good luck living your life by philosophical rules and all that.life becomes much more fun when you become amoral(not ''immoral''quiet a difference) and don't care about consistency or being ''honest''and ''not a hypocrite''or walking the talk''and this.
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Postby momopi » August 30th, 2013, 8:02 pm

Prostitution is a women using her body as the last asset, when all else fails, to provide for herself. While not all "escorts" are in such desperate situation, depriving it from those who are is worse.
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Postby pete98146 » August 30th, 2013, 8:28 pm

A bigger question would be....who are we to judge? I think we are guilty of looking at prostitution with a Western set of eyes. Let's look at prostitutes in Thailand for example. Poor families up in Issan view their daughters as an economic asset and it's the parents that often force their children into this occupation. Whether it's moral or shameful is of minimal concern to them because without this pipeline of money the entire family starves.

So as long as the pretty little daughter can earn more in two days then the entire family can earn in a month growing rice, the motivation will remain constant and high.

Don't think we should shed any tears for the prostitutes of the world. There is a reason why it's the worlds second oldest profession.
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Postby NorthAmericanguy » August 30th, 2013, 8:50 pm

Winston wrote:You're the only one who says that Cornfed. I don't know any guy who would want his daughter to be a whore. Come on now. Get real. You're probably just saying that too. You'd lose respect for her if she did.

I'm just saying that this is one of life's many ironies, and asking for a way to justify it.


I agree with Conrfed. The main problem is that in most cultures being a prostitute is considered taboo so most of us are brought up to believe that a woman in sex work is wrong or low status. Thing is, and I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but there is not much difference between a hooker and a wife. All women exchange sex and their companionship for male resources in some way shape or form.

If I had a daughter it makes no difference if she got married or if she was a prostitute, because at the end of the day, some guy is going to have her bent over. If my daughter were a prostitute, all I would want for her safety is to do what she does in a safe clean environment and she got the most she could get for her time.
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Postby NorthAmericanguy » August 30th, 2013, 9:02 pm

Banano wrote:I wouldn't want my daughter/sister to be a how however if I was born as woman I would be one, high class hoe, .

I always thought sluts are stupid for doing it for free when they could charge for it. Either way their reputation is ruined.
Yes, sluts chose who they have sex with but high class hoes can be picky too. I'm not talking about street/brothel low life hoes.


I don't think girls who give it up for free are stupid. Some girls are just really nice girls and when the meet a guy they like they have no problem giving up sex just to please the guy a make him happy.

In the end though, a woman giving up lots of sex for nothing generally isn't a good idea because women just aren't designed to have lots of casual sex like men, and they can get pregnant, so it's best for a woman get with a man who will at least stick around. Women just function better when they're dealing with one guy in a monogamous relationship.
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Postby NorthAmericanguy » August 30th, 2013, 9:05 pm

pete98146 wrote:A bigger question would be....who are we to judge? I think we are guilty of looking at p4p with a Western set of eyes. Let's look at hoes in Thailand for example. Poor families up in Issan view their daughters as an economic asset and it's the parents that often force their children into this occupation. Whether it's moral or shameful is of minimal concern to them because without this pipeline of money the entire family starves.

So as long as the pretty little daughter can earn more in two days then the entire family can earn in a month growing rice, the motivation will remain constant and high.

Don't think we should shed any tears for the hoes of the world. There is a reason why it's the worlds second oldest profession.


And I would argue that most parents who have a "pretty little daughter" in the Western world want their daughter to marry a rich man so it's really the same thing.
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Postby NorthAmericanguy » August 30th, 2013, 9:20 pm

Ghost wrote:The real irony is that western societies will never allow p4p while at the same time they throw their women into corporate whoredom.


Well, that's because Western society makes more money from the 60-80% of women going to work then from the small percentage of women who would go into P4P.

Also, Western women willingly sign up to be corporate whores because they were duped from all the feminist propaganda in school. It's not until they're in their 40's do they realize the corporate life isn't what they thought it would be, and lucky for many of them, they have the option unlike men to quit, or work part time because lack of income does not count against a woman's credibility like it does for men.
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Postby green1976 » August 30th, 2013, 10:40 pm

pete98146 wrote:A bigger question would be....who are we to judge? I think we are guilty of looking at p4p with a Western set of eyes. Let's look at hoes in Thailand for example. Poor families up in Issan view their daughters as an economic asset and it's the parents that often force their children into this occupation. Whether it's moral or shameful is of minimal concern to them because without this pipeline of money the entire family starves.

So as long as the pretty little daughter can earn more in two days then the entire family can earn in a month growing rice, the motivation will remain constant and high.

Don't think we should shed any tears for the hoes of the world. There is a reason why it's the worlds second oldest profession.


This is why in Thailand the poor families from Isaan prefer to have girls.
They can still become prostitutes,find a foreigner and change the life of their families.

So what's the best deal when a situation makes these families to prefer to have girls as boys have less value actually?

Is it worst to have a son who will have a shitty job,being in a place where Thai women goes with foreigners and him staying alone like a sucker or to be born a female and having the possiblity to rent her p***y or find a male ATM?

Just look at the huge numbers of ladyboys and i can assure you that this economical reality plays a role about this.
Many mothers won't have any problems if their sons becomes ladyboys selling their ass in a bar.
That would be their last preocupation..and you have even now mothers who are pushing their sons to become ladyboys..

Last time i was with a friend and his girlfriend is a ladyboy and he showed me a video where the mother of his ladyboy enjoyed to crossdress young boys and playing to be female.
And this is not a rare case.

Winston speak for yourself about the hypocrisy of p4p.
If i had a daughter it would never be in a western country..probably in SEA and i would do everything to make her financially secure but if she choose to become a prostitube because she wants big money or whatever,up to she.
I won't judge that as i've done what i consider normal to be done.

If you look carefully many things, i would not give a shit something bad happening to a stranger but i would care for somebody close in my life.
I find this normal and most people are like this.
What is hypocrit is to talk in a humanist way saying you have to love everybody as you love your parents and your children.
It's not my case and unless being a weird human being,it's more natural to care about a limited number of persons and that's all.
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Postby Cornfed » August 31st, 2013, 12:36 am

Ghost wrote:The real irony is that western societies will never allow p4p while at the same time they throw their women into corporate whoredom.

A whore of another flavor is still a whore. Sigh.

We really should draw attention to the fact that essentially all females in corporate management are hoes and, unlike regular honest hoes, deserve to be reviled and persecuted.
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Re: The irony of men who justify p4p

Postby Cornfed » August 31st, 2013, 2:17 am

kai1275 wrote:Funny you mention this. Many guys that justify P4P, usually think God/Christianity is fake or false, as if God does not know what is best for all men either.... They cannot justify it.

Christians should support p4p because the Bible endorses it and it allows men to get varied sexual release without turning previously marriageable females into worthless sluts. Opposing p4p is a de-facto endorsement of the slutification process and hence the destruction of society.
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Re: The irony of men who justify p4p

Postby Rocky Top » August 31st, 2013, 4:13 am

Cornfed wrote:
kai1275 wrote:Funny you mention this. Many guys that justify P4P, usually think God/Christianity is fake or false, as if God does not know what is best for all men either.... They cannot justify it.

Christians should support p4p because the Bible endorses it and it allows men to get varied sexual release without turning previously marriageable females into worthless sluts. Opposing p4p is a de-facto endorsement of the slutification process and hence the destruction of society.


Link? I'm not calling you a liar... I just want to see the chapter and verse so I can see for myself.
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Re: The irony of men who justify p4p

Postby Cornfed » August 31st, 2013, 4:31 am

Rocky Top wrote: Link? I'm not calling you a liar... I just want to see the chapter and verse so I can see for myself.

Here is the Bible recommending p4p as an alternative to adultery:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+6%3A24-26&version=ESV

Several hoes are mentioned in the Bible and are not condemned simply for being hoes.
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Postby Cornfed » August 31st, 2013, 5:50 am

Apparently St. Augustine said that "if prostitution were to be suppressed, capricious lusts would then overthrow society" and this view was also taken by Thomas Aquinas. So traditional Christianity has always approved of p4p.
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Re: The irony of men who justify p4p

Postby E Irizarry R&B Singer » August 31st, 2013, 7:17 am

Cornfed wrote:
Rocky Top wrote: Link? I'm not calling you a liar... I just want to see the chapter and verse so I can see for myself.

Here is the Bible recommending p4p as an alternative to adultery:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+6%3A24-26&version=ESV

Several hoes are mentioned in the Bible and are not condemned simply for being hoes.


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Re: The irony of men who justify p4p

Postby NorthAmericanguy » August 31st, 2013, 8:30 pm

Cornfed wrote:p4p allows men to get varied sexual release without turning previously marriageable females into worthless sluts


I agree with this 100%. I have met really nice girls who were at one time marriage material, but after a series of flings, one night stands, and being used for years as just a girl to pump and dump, these previously marriageable females become jaded and have lots of emotional baggage to the point where it's hard for them to bond with a genuine decent guy, and in many cases, they're just unfit to take on as a wife. At the very least, if you marry a girl like this, you always have to worry about the guy who had her in the past who she never got over and broke her heart because it's easy to rekindle past relationships.

I will also add that for many women not having a strong father in their life, or other male protective cover, is all it takes to get the ball rolling for a young decent girl to wind up in a series of pump and dump situations which is damaging to the female psychology.
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