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Do You Have a Hard Time Empathizing with People?

Postby zacb » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:54 am

Not just because of conditions or what not, but just because half the stuff people do is because they bring it on themselves? As of late, I have had a little more sympathy, and try to understand the roots. Many of today's problems can be traced back to ignorance or to a lack of hope, which many of us know all too well. It is kinda sad though, thinking about all the causes for irresponsible behavior, and it feels sad just to think that it is kinda hard to reach them. Now I don't think I will be able to to move abroad for a few years (not just for women), and so I am trying to get my life together here. But I just think of all the stupid stuff, and I think I see it for what it is. Vices are not Crimes got me to see this. The alcoholic, being depressed with his circumstances, decides to drink. People are still responsible for their actions, but you feel like helping them a little bit more.
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Postby Hero » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:05 am

Yes, in fact, I don't give a rat's ass about your problem with feeling empathy.
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Postby zacb » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:13 am

Well at least you have a rough skin about it :D .
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Postby blueeyescanada » Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:49 pm

Men have a harder time empathizing than women; it's our nature.
Look at how men dominate the top tiers of corporations and politics.
In ancient times we had to kill animals and rip them apart, and do the
same to men who tried to screw our harem, so a sense of pity and
understanding was a hindrance.

That being said, this Christmas I'll be giving away some liquor store
gift cards to beggars, as half of them are probably messed up because
of a god-damned woman.
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Postby Bane » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:31 pm

I have no problems with empathizing with those who have similar views/outlook to myself.

I have a hard time empathizing with those who have much different views to mine.
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Postby S_Parc » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:38 pm

Here's the thing, I'm kinda bored of sympathizing with others because for the most part, many ppl use pity (or self-pity) to either justify their sorry state or make excuses as to why they can't get things in order.

For example, you wouldn't believe how many ppl I'd met, who complain about chronic pain (or fatigue) but then, never do any yoga or qigong/tai chi, to possibly change their situation. Instead, it's the same *whoa is me, plz feel sorry for me, and then, buy me a drink* mentality.

I've done my own self-study on these so-called "ailing bozos". I've made a standing poses tai chi/qigong video and sent it to a dozen persons, all with the typical *excuse making* syndromes. Well, after a year of deliberations, I've found that only three of those persons had even bothered to watch the video, and only one person, doing a whooping one of the ten exercises. And even there, he does it every week, instead of every day or every other day.

Net result ... my health & fitness level soars (since I do 'em daily) and everyone else's is in the toilet. And then, I hear complaints about my excellent genetics, providing me with boundless energy when I didn't have this level of endurance in my twenties.

Well, on the inside, I'm waving my middle finger at these ppl.
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Postby fschmidt » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:11 pm

I can empathize with people but not sympathize. I sympathize more with animals than with normal people. There is a benefit to not sympathizing with people which is that I have no hesitation in screwing them over in business.
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Postby HouseMD » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:00 pm

I empathize with them just fine, and can even sympathize, but then I make rational judgements that are separate from my feelings. It's the same sort of thought that goes into putting down a dog- you feel for it, but you do what has to be done.
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Postby Winston » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:28 pm

Empathy is important. People who don't empathize with others can become like sociopaths with no conscience. Kind of like the high pressure salespeople who sell things to people that they don't need, or the business sharks that inflate prices 10 times beyond the value and feel no guilt for ripping people off.

But you can't let others drag you down. If someone's life is in the dumps, you can't be a miracle worker and save the person. All you can do is give them some encouragement and good advice. If you owned a company, maybe you could give the person a job. But you can't rescue others who can't help themselves.
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Postby fschmidt » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:10 pm

Winston wrote:Empathy is important. People who don't empathize with others can become like sociopaths with no conscience. Kind of like the high pressure salespeople who sell things to people that they don't need, or the business sharks that inflate prices 10 times beyond the value and feel no guilt for ripping people off.

But you can't let others drag you down. If someone's life is in the dumps, you can't be a miracle worker and save the person. All you can do is give them some encouragement and good advice. If you owned a company, maybe you could give the person a job. But you can't rescue others who can't help themselves.

This is the exact opposite of my view. The average person is worse than an animal, so why not screw him over? I see no reason. On the other hand, a moral person deserves meaningful help. The Bible says "love your neighbor as yourself" where "your neighbor" is a member of your community who shares your values (Leviticus 19:18). This means that you have an obligation to save members of your religious community. But you owe the average human slime nothing.
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Postby HouseMD » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:24 pm

fschmidt wrote:
Winston wrote:Empathy is important. People who don't empathize with others can become like sociopaths with no conscience. Kind of like the high pressure salespeople who sell things to people that they don't need, or the business sharks that inflate prices 10 times beyond the value and feel no guilt for ripping people off.

But you can't let others drag you down. If someone's life is in the dumps, you can't be a miracle worker and save the person. All you can do is give them some encouragement and good advice. If you owned a company, maybe you could give the person a job. But you can't rescue others who can't help themselves.

This is the exact opposite of my view. The average person is worse than an animal, so why not screw him over? I see no reason. On the other hand, a moral person deserves meaningful help. The Bible says "love your neighbor as yourself" where "your neighbor" is a member of your community who shares your values (Leviticus 19:18). This means that you have an obligation to save members of your religious community. But you owe the average human slime nothing.

And you just summed up why so many people have it out for the Jews.

Exploitation is unethical, and spreads moral decay as it grows in scale. It leads to the dog-eat-dog hypercapitalism that is the cause pf societal decay. Your views sound like those of a politician or wall street banker.
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Postby fschmidt » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:32 pm

HouseMD wrote:And you just summed up why so many people have it out for the Jews.

The problem with Judaism is racism. I respect anyone who actually follows any religious tradition. In the case of a Christian, if he keeps the Sabbath, I will respect him and not screw him over.

Exploitation is unethical, and spreads moral decay as it grows in scale.

So exploiting cows and pigs as food is unethical? If not, please explain why the average American is worth more than a cow or pig.

It leads to the dog-eat-dog hypercapitalism that is the cause pf societal decay. Your views sound like those of a politician or wall street banker.

This statement is absurd. The politician or wall street banker belongs to no religion and is a typical member of modern society. My views lead to moral cultures which defeat immoral cultures and cause humanity to progress.
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Postby George » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:11 pm

fschmidt wrote:
Winston wrote:Empathy is important. People who don't empathize with others can become like sociopaths with no conscience. Kind of like the high pressure salespeople who sell things to people that they don't need, or the business sharks that inflate prices 10 times beyond the value and feel no guilt for ripping people off.

But you can't let others drag you down. If someone's life is in the dumps, you can't be a miracle worker and save the person. All you can do is give them some encouragement and good advice. If you owned a company, maybe you could give the person a job. But you can't rescue others who can't help themselves.

This is the exact opposite of my view. The average person is worse than an animal, so why not screw him over? I see no reason.


This is something you would expect a Jew to say, or at least secretly think. It's been the modus operandi of Jews (who are probably the most ethno-centric people in the world) on a wide scale.
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Postby fschmidt » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:31 pm

George wrote:
fschmidt wrote:The average person is worse than an animal, so why not screw him over? I see no reason.


This is something you would expect a Jew to say, or at least secretly think. It's been the modus operandi of Jews (who are probably the most ethno-centric people in the world) on a wide scale.


Am I wrong? How is the average person better than an animal? I would really like to know.

If you read my other posts in this thread, you would know that my comment here isn't ethno-centric at all. I don't care about ethnicity, I care about behavior.
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Postby tre » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:25 pm

I live by the Golden Rule. I wouldn't do anything to anyone that I wouldn't have done to myself. By anyone, I mean any human being. However, I am not an entitled person and I don't expect to be given anything. I expect "tough love" when I have been in the wrong. That is also what I will give back to those that need it. Sometimes being in a tough spot makes you grow as a person. It requires you to learn something in order to get yourself out of it. There are certain cases where aid must be given, whether it be words of encouragement or financial (financial aid in EXTREMELY rare cases). I feel empathy and sympathy for those that I feel deserve it.


I am in a terrible position currently due to being taken advantage of in business. I was burned because I expected the one I trusted to be as I am. I have never and will never burn anyone in business as it not something one can easily recover from...if ever. I will never completely recover what was lost. This is 100% despicable behavior to screw someone over as I'm sure you wouldn't want the same done to you.

I don't compare animals to people...ever. I was raised near my grandparents ranch and have butchered my fair share of animals. Animals are not people and they are there for our benefit. Some make good pets and some are used for our food. I don't agree with animal cruelty whatsoever...I despise it actually. I don't even agree with certain animals being killed for sport. However, to put animals lives as equal to or higher than human lives is just insane IMO.
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