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Save Your Children By Leaving The US

Postby Taco » Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:35 am

You might not have any children but you can save yourself by leaving the US.

Save Your Children By Leaving The US
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Postby manly5000 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:51 pm

I'll save my children by meeting a woman outside the US who will give birth to them in a country besides the US.... since I don't have any children yet.

Does that count? 8)
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Postby The_Adventurer » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:56 pm

The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.
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Postby publicduende » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:35 pm

The_Adventurer wrote:The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.


Absolutely. Most countries unaligned to American (Century) interests have been taking huge steps to disconnect from the petrodollar system, reduce their exposure to US debt and base their trade agreement on anything but the dollar. When the US pops, and pop it will together with a small number of tier 1 economies, it will have the effect of a balloon exploding far away in the sky. A mighty spectacle, but fewer people than you think will get hurt.
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Postby manly5000 » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:00 pm

What's even funnier is that these people not only say that the collapse will take the world with it, but also that "if you expat to another country the locals will come for you once it all collapses, so have fun getting lynched".

'Muricans gonna 'murica. :roll:
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Postby Taco » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:28 pm

The_Adventurer wrote:The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.


I disagree, China, Japan and the EU are in just as much debt as the US is. China has been building ghost cities(like Ordos) for years and lying about their economic growth. Unemployment in Europe is exploding and Japan has the most public debt in the world. Its basically a race to see which nation can debase their currency the fastest. When one nations currency falls the rest will soon follow.
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Postby SilverEnergy » Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:33 pm

Taco wrote:
The_Adventurer wrote:The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.


I disagree, China, Japan and the EU are in just as much debt as the US is. China has been building ghost cities(like Ordos) for years and lying about their economic growth. Unemployment in Europe is exploding and Japan has the most public debt in the world. Its basically a race to see which nation can debase their currency the fastest. When one nations currency falls the rest will soon follow.


Yes.

Just the fact that whole world runs on monopoly fiat currency spells trouble for everyone.

This is the first time in history of a possible world wide hyperinflation.

Not one currency of any country is backed by anything.....nothing at all.

Japan and Europe are in horrible debt, especially Greece.

Japan is printing their fiat currency like crazy.

Credit is tight in China and inflation is at a high in China right now.

Credit is tight in the ENTIRE world.

Within the next decade, some terrible things are going to happen to the world's economies.
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Postby Taco » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:50 am

SilverEnergy wrote:
Taco wrote:
The_Adventurer wrote:The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.


I disagree, China, Japan and the EU are in just as much debt as the US is. China has been building ghost cities(like Ordos) for years and lying about their economic growth. Unemployment in Europe is exploding and Japan has the most public debt in the world. Its basically a race to see which nation can debase their currency the fastest. When one nations currency falls the rest will soon follow.


Yes.

Just the fact that whole world runs on monopoly fiat currency spells trouble for everyone.

This is the first time in history of a possible world wide hyperinflation.

Not one currency of any country is backed by anything.....nothing at all.

Japan and Europe are in horrible debt, especially Greece.

Japan is printing their fiat currency like crazy.

Credit is tight in China and inflation is at a high in China right now.

Credit is tight in the ENTIRE world.

Within the next decade, some terrible things are going to happen to the world's economies.


Here's what I'm taking about.

China's Local Government Debt Explodes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sheldon-f ... 28661.html
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Postby SilverEnergy » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:56 am

^^^
China's debt is definitely worsened by all the printing they are doing for sure.

China's currency is debt just like America's currency is debt.
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Postby gsjackson » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:38 am

The_Adventurer wrote:The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.


Agreed. But TPTB are not going to let the dollar collapse. Have people not noticed that this country, with its state-of-the-art military that can be deployed at will around the globe, is the plutocrats' command headquarters? Banksters will write off debts, the US will start wars -- whatever is necessary, the US is not going down the tubes as a political entity, and the dollar will not tank.

Now, that said, TPTB seem perfectly content to allow 80 percent of the American population to live in debt poverty, and for the culture to be completely degraded.
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Postby zacb » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:47 am

The_Adventurer wrote:The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.


Yes and no. To say there is no where to hide because it is all interconnected, is kinda arrogant in a sly way. But to rephrase and say the world's developed economies will implode is not.
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Postby Ghost » Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:08 am

gsjackson wrote:
The_Adventurer wrote:The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.


Agreed. But TPTB are not going to let the dollar collapse. Have people not noticed that this country, with its state-of-the-art military that can be deployed at will around the globe, is the plutocrats' command headquarters? Banksters will write off debts, the US will start wars -- whatever is necessary, the US is not going down the tubes as a political entity, and the dollar will not tank.

Now, that said, TPTB seem perfectly content to allow 80 percent of the American population to live in debt poverty, and for the culture to be completely degraded.


They will have to keep it from collapsing then. And so far it looks like they aren't doing a good job. TPTB are not all powerful and I think it is easy to forget that. If they were all powerful, why did they let Rome collapse? The Ottoman Empire? The British Empire? The people indicate the health of a country. The U.S. is having crises in population, immigration, looming currency collapse, morals/ethics (always a key indicator of course), single mom-hood, and tons of other social problems. And these are systemic and are part of the plan, so they won't get better. When enough taxpayers and jobs disappear and it becomes clear that people are going to starve, collapse is near. It can't go on forever. We have to stop this mentality that TPTB are omnipotent. Isn't that what they would prefer we believe? Why would any of us believe in going abroad if it is all pointless anyway?
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Postby gsjackson » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:02 pm

Ghost wrote:
gsjackson wrote:
The_Adventurer wrote:The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.


Agreed. But TPTB are not going to let the dollar collapse. Have people not noticed that this country, with its state-of-the-art military that can be deployed at will around the globe, is the plutocrats' command headquarters? Banksters will write off debts, the US will start wars -- whatever is necessary, the US is not going down the tubes as a political entity, and the dollar will not tank.

Now, that said, TPTB seem perfectly content to allow 80 percent of the American population to live in debt poverty, and for the culture to be completely degraded.


They will have to keep it from collapsing then. And so far it looks like they aren't doing a good job. TPTB are not all powerful and I think it is easy to forget that. If they were all powerful, why did they let Rome collapse? The Ottoman Empire? The British Empire? The people indicate the health of a country. The U.S. is having crises in population, immigration, looming currency collapse, morals/ethics (always a key indicator of course), single mom-hood, and tons of other social problems. And these are systemic and are part of the plan, so they won't get better. When enough taxpayers and jobs disappear and it becomes clear that people are going to starve, collapse is near. It can't go on forever. We have to stop this mentality that TPTB are omnipotent. Isn't that what they would prefer we believe? Why would any of us believe in going abroad if it is all pointless anyway?


They have control of the currency, and consequently of the economy. Any time they want to create jobs they can pump money into the real economy, rather than keeping it all in the financial sector.

Don't get me wrong -- the US has already collapsed, as a functional culture and economy. But the world's currencies are manipulated by the same international bankers, and they will not allow the dollar to collapse.

And let's be as precise as we can about whom we're talking about here. International bankers were not around during the Roman Empire. They have no control over colonial revolutions against imperialist oppressors. And, having fomented WWI, they were more than happy to see the Islamic (a strong cultural bias against usury) Ottoman Empire go down.
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Postby Taco » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:02 am

gsjackson wrote:
Ghost wrote:
gsjackson wrote:
The_Adventurer wrote:The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.


Agreed. But TPTB are not going to let the dollar collapse. Have people not noticed that this country, with its state-of-the-art military that can be deployed at will around the globe, is the plutocrats' command headquarters? Banksters will write off debts, the US will start wars -- whatever is necessary, the US is not going down the tubes as a political entity, and the dollar will not tank.

Now, that said, TPTB seem perfectly content to allow 80 percent of the American population to live in debt poverty, and for the culture to be completely degraded.


They will have to keep it from collapsing then. And so far it looks like they aren't doing a good job. TPTB are not all powerful and I think it is easy to forget that. If they were all powerful, why did they let Rome collapse? The Ottoman Empire? The British Empire? The people indicate the health of a country. The U.S. is having crises in population, immigration, looming currency collapse, morals/ethics (always a key indicator of course), single mom-hood, and tons of other social problems. And these are systemic and are part of the plan, so they won't get better. When enough taxpayers and jobs disappear and it becomes clear that people are going to starve, collapse is near. It can't go on forever. We have to stop this mentality that TPTB are omnipotent. Isn't that what they would prefer we believe? Why would any of us believe in going abroad if it is all pointless anyway?


But the world's currencies are manipulated by the same international bankers, and they will not allow the dollar to collapse.


This is exactly the type of arrogant response most Americans will give. I thought the international bankers did a nice job of gutting Detroit and the rest of the Midwest. They moved 56,000 manufacturing companies from the US to China since 2001, a fact most Americans don't even know about.

Massive Dollar Selloff
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Postby Ghost » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:45 am

gsjackson wrote:
Ghost wrote:
gsjackson wrote:
The_Adventurer wrote:The idea that when the dollar collapses it will take the world with it is just more American arrogance.


Agreed. But TPTB are not going to let the dollar collapse. Have people not noticed that this country, with its state-of-the-art military that can be deployed at will around the globe, is the plutocrats' command headquarters? Banksters will write off debts, the US will start wars -- whatever is necessary, the US is not going down the tubes as a political entity, and the dollar will not tank.

Now, that said, TPTB seem perfectly content to allow 80 percent of the American population to live in debt poverty, and for the culture to be completely degraded.


They will have to keep it from collapsing then. And so far it looks like they aren't doing a good job. TPTB are not all powerful and I think it is easy to forget that. If they were all powerful, why did they let Rome collapse? The Ottoman Empire? The British Empire? The people indicate the health of a country. The U.S. is having crises in population, immigration, looming currency collapse, morals/ethics (always a key indicator of course), single mom-hood, and tons of other social problems. And these are systemic and are part of the plan, so they won't get better. When enough taxpayers and jobs disappear and it becomes clear that people are going to starve, collapse is near. It can't go on forever. We have to stop this mentality that TPTB are omnipotent. Isn't that what they would prefer we believe? Why would any of us believe in going abroad if it is all pointless anyway?


They have control of the currency, and consequently of the economy. Any time they want to create jobs they can pump money into the real economy, rather than keeping it all in the financial sector.

Don't get me wrong -- the US has already collapsed, as a functional culture and economy. But the world's currencies are manipulated by the same international bankers, and they will not allow the dollar to collapse.

And let's be as precise as we can about whom we're talking about here. International bankers were not around during the Roman Empire. They have no control over colonial revolutions against imperialist oppressors. And, having fomented WWI, they were more than happy to see the Islamic (a strong cultural bias against usury) Ottoman Empire go down.


The banksters still have to maintain faith in their fake money and ponzi scheme though. And while they are able to fool most of the population most of the time, I don't think they will forever. The success of their designs relies on the faith and ignorance of the sheep. But once the sheep lose faith in the fake currency and realize the ponzi scheme is just that...it has to be game over for TPTB.
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