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American Girls that Made the Right Choices

Postby Tsar » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:02 am

But the Duggars, who follow a particular branch of conservative evangelical Christianity, don't date. They court. "We're even saving our first kiss," Jessa Duggar told The Wire in an interview, "for our wedding day."

http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/04/ ... ou/359339/


In the book, here is how the Duggar women describe teenage female sexual desire:

"The girl may so yearn to feel valued and accepted by a male that she gives in to the boy's desires. But too often the boy's 'love' for her turns out to be fleeting, and the girl is left cast off and degraded. From there, things can easily spiral downward as the girl's yearning to feel valued intensifies and she seeks acceptance from the next boy who comes along. We hear from a lot of girls in this painful situation."

http://www.thewire.com/culture/2014/04/ ... ou/359339/


This is very similar to what I have been posting about. When girls are raised properly or are taught the traditional values then they can make the right decisions. One of the reasons why many girls act irresponsibly and are promiscuous are because they want acceptance, they aren't taught the traditional values, they aren't taught to value their virginity, and the list goes on.

So if a very small number American girls can do the courtship and strict purity thing, then there will be a much greater number of foreign girls that are doing it. Eastern Europe is more traditional and conservative than America, so many of the girls there must be pure virgins.

No fornication, no kissing before the wedding, and courtship (not dating) is what classifies as a traditional relationship.
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Re: American Girls that Made the Right Choices

Postby Cornfed » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:29 am

Tsar wrote:So if a very small number American girls can do the courtship and strict purity thing, then there will be a much greater number of foreign girls that are doing it. Eastern Europe is more traditional and conservative than America, so many of the girls there must be pure virgins

As I understand it, EE is post-feminist rather than traditional. They had a much more aggressive form of feminism inflicted on them earlier than the West. This caused men to conclude that being married was for chumps, and females had a head-start on realizing that feminist "careers" suck. Also, their guvmints lack the resources to sufficiently fund feminism. This leads EE females to want a husband, but they apparently still retain their sluttish tendencies from the feminist era.
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Re: American Girls that Made the Right Choices

Postby Teal Lantern » Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:52 am

Tsar wrote:So if a very small number American girls can do the courtship and strict purity thing, then there will be a much greater number of foreign girls that are doing it.

19 of 20 women are not American, so yeah.

Tsar wrote: Eastern Europe is more traditional and conservative than America, so many of the girls there must be pure virgins.

Have some candid conversations with EE men or read their forum posts.
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Postby HouseMD » Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:22 am

You've clearly never been to EE, Tsar. Let me just say that they sloot it up real good.
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Postby Tsar » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:04 am

HouseMD wrote:You've clearly never been to EE, Tsar. Let me just say that they sloot it up real good.


Are you saying it's very difficult to get a good woman in EE?

I watch porn videos so I know there are sluts in EE just like there are in America. Today there are 345 pages of videos on xhamster for Russian porn. There are sluts in every country. That wasn't my question.

My question was that compared to the liberal, promiscuous West then isn't it logical to assume that there must be a greater number of girls like those in the article to be found in Eastern Europe.
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Postby djfourmoney » Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:48 am

I am saying I will be married and have my first child before you get your act together.

You are overtly focuses on religion as you believe this is the key to finding a virgin to marry.

While there's some merit to that, its narrow casting to the extreme. Without the means to exploit this, you'll be single a very, long, long time.

That's just the harsh reality. I guess you could contact the guy that runs Christian Pinas or something to speed up the process.

Otherwise I would focus on making some money so you can actually pursue such women.

Didn't I say this before? New post from you won't change what I say because what you're saying hasn't changed.
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Postby Cornfed » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:20 am

Tsar wrote:
HouseMD wrote:My question was that compared to the liberal, promiscuous West then isn't it logical to assume that there must be a greater number of girls like those in the article to be found in Eastern Europe.

In the west of EE, no. Sorry. Try the Asiatic parts of the FSU.
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Postby Tsar » Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:46 pm

djfourmoney wrote:I am saying I will be married and have my first child before you get your act together.

You are overtly focuses on religion as you believe this is the key to finding a virgin to marry.

While there's some merit to that, its narrow casting to the extreme. Without the means to exploit this, you'll be single a very, long, long time.

That's just the harsh reality.


I already live in a harsh reality. I have no illusions about my current path or how difficult it will be. I know I will need a lot of money to get my dream girl and that I will need a high income to live nicely. In three years if I don't have my princess, then I will get a "platonic marriage of convenience" to any attractive healthy girl. I wouldn't kiss her, have any romantic affection with her, consummate, or have any sexual relations. So I would maintain my pride and my honor because it would be a purely platonic marriage. She would also get a separate bed. She would be something like a platonic best friend to have in America and help occupy my time while I work on getting a genuine marriage to an ideal bride. Being single doesn't have as many benefits as being married in terms of my plans to create my dream life, so if 2017 goes by and I fail in getting married to my ideal princess, then I'll go with a "platonic marriage of convenience" for my "first" marriage. Besides, as long as the marriage was never consummated, it could be argued that according to historical standards and tradition that I wasn't actually married and that it was nothing more than a legal contract with many benefits. So I might be loveless and the same as I am now, but I technically wouldn't be single if I got a "platonic marriage of convenience."
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Postby Teal Lantern » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:51 pm

Tsar wrote:I already live in a harsh reality. I have no illusions about my current path or how difficult it will be. I know I will need a lot of money to get my dream girl and that I will need a high income to live nicely. In three years if I don't have my princess, then I will get a "platonic marriage of convenience" to any attractive healthy girl. I wouldn't kiss her, have any romantic affection with her, consummate, or have any sexual relations. So I would maintain my pride and my honor because it would be a purely platonic marriage. She would also get a separate bed.

There's no shortage of freeloading women who'd take you up on that offer.
Just know it would be the most expensive house mate you ever had.

Tsar wrote: She would be something like a platonic best friend to have in America and help occupy my time while I work on getting a genuine marriage to an ideal bride.

And as soon as you announced you had found your "ideal bride", your "platonic best friend", known to authorities as your "wife", would make a false DV claim against you, then you'd need a new place to stay, while still paying for her to live in your (former) house.
Tsar wrote: Besides, as long as the marriage was never consummated, it could be argued that according to historical standards and tradition that I wasn't actually married and that it was nothing more than a legal contract with many benefits. So I might be loveless and the same as I am now, but I technically wouldn't be single if I got a "platonic marriage of convenience."

Dafuq? :? Are you new to this end of the planet, Beta Bucks? American courts give 0.002 shits (+/- 0.002 shits margin of error) about whether you ever "consummated" (which you wouldn't be able to prove, anyway). The "many benefits" would be to this woman who'd have you on the child support hook for any kids she bred while the two of you were married and cohabitating, all without ever giving you any slot-C. :?
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Postby Tsar » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:31 pm

Teal Lantern wrote:
Tsar wrote:I already live in a harsh reality. I have no illusions about my current path or how difficult it will be. I know I will need a lot of money to get my dream girl and that I will need a high income to live nicely. In three years if I don't have my princess, then I will get a "platonic marriage of convenience" to any attractive healthy girl. I wouldn't kiss her, have any romantic affection with her, consummate, or have any sexual relations. So I would maintain my pride and my honor because it would be a purely platonic marriage. She would also get a separate bed.

There's no shortage of freeloading women who'd take you up on that offer.
Just know it would be the most expensive house mate you ever had.


It wouldn't be expensive for me because I would help her find rich sugar daddies and she will be bringing home a lot of money. She will also get free meals and support. I wouldn't have to do much to support her. She would bring home more money than I would each month. She could also date regular guys on the dating sites and get money from them also. I'd find a girl that would be interested in that sort of thing and then she gets to live the "American Dream." If she tries anything I would divorce her and she loses any chance of getting her "American Dream." She would be my method to success. It's better than being single and alone and struggling to succeed. She could easily find some real beta and marry him once I divorce her once I got enough money. I'd want her to be a gold-digger but she wouldn't be freeloading off of me, she's be doing it off sugar daddies and the real beta guys. We'd be partners in manipulating the toxicity off of America. So it's not exactly a best friend, but more for an accomplice. I would also be her agent and teach her how to manipulate people, what to do to hook them, and how to get them to keep calling. I help her earn money and she would be giving me more money than I would have otherwise earned without her. Many guys on the average dating sites would be willing to give her $50 or $100 worth of gifts for a first date if they're desperate enough. Many times most guys don't get any replies or hits, so the "right" attractive girl would easily be able to get money and gifts even from average guys. I know it's corrupt, but only corrupt people win.

I think you underestimate me and think I am naive. I am an INTJ and I don't do anything without thinking it through. I would accept a platonic marriage because it gives me much more benefits and the risks are negligible. I would be encouraging her to date as many guys as possible to extract money and gifts from them and helping her every step of the way. I don't care who I have to walk over on my path to glory as long as I eventually have happiness. If I can't marry my ideal girl and have a genuine marriage, then I would enter a platonic marriage of convenience for reasons other than romance or love.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/s ... -1.1246213

She could earn a lot of money from sugar daddies giving me a cut. I wouldn't have to work and she would be working by having fun. I could play video games or do whatever I want, while she is out having fun and earning money. Then on the days she doesn't, I could tell her to find guys on pof and go on a first date with them with the condition they bring her some nice gifts. It would beat working 40 hours a week, being alone and miserable, and achieving nothing in life. She gets free meals, a free phone, free clothes, and whatever else she can get from guys and sugar daddies. She gives me cash and some of the gifts I help her select.

There is no middle ground for me. I will either be in a true marriage with romance with a pure girl and live a mostly ethical life. Or I will enter a platonic marriage of convenience with a harlot and together we will earn a lot of money off desperate average guys and upper class elites. I would be getting more of out a platonic marriage of convenience than the girl would.
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Postby Tsar » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:11 pm

Teal Lantern wrote:And as soon as you announced you had found your "ideal bride", your "platonic best friend", known to authorities as your "wife", would make a false DV claim against you, then you'd need a new place to stay, while still paying for her to live in your (former) house.
Tsar wrote: Besides, as long as the marriage was never consummated, it could be argued that according to historical standards and tradition that I wasn't actually married and that it was nothing more than a legal contract with many benefits. So I might be loveless and the same as I am now, but I technically wouldn't be single if I got a "platonic marriage of convenience."

Dafuq? :? Are you new to this end of the planet, Beta Bucks? American courts give 0.002 shits (+/- 0.002 shits margin of error) about whether you ever "consummated" (which you wouldn't be able to prove, anyway). The "many benefits" would be to this woman who'd have you on the child support hook for any kids she bred while the two of you were married and cohabitating, all without ever giving you any slot-C. :?


I am confident that a girl in that arrangement wouldn't be making any false DV claims. She would be surrounded with dozens of real betas that would love to marry her. I would have helped her find many guys to date during the platonic marriage and after a divorce she would be able to easily marry one of those guys. She would get a better house by marrying one of them and doing that. I don't plan on having any property in America. Maybe a tiny house worth almost nothing or a mobile home on a plot of land. Not really something any woman would really want to keep.

I'm an Alpha, not a Beta. I never said that it would be able to be argued in court. I meant traditionally and historically it wouldn't be a marriage. Also, it wouldn't be a marriage in the eyes of any religion or deity if it wasn't consummated. Therefore because it wouldn't be a genuine marriage and I wouldn't be involved in any way with her romantically or physically, I would keep my pride and honor. She would be just a "pawn" on the gameboard. All I want is my ideal princess which is like the treasure I would get once I win the game.

Once again you are mistaken if you think I would be on the hook for any kids she bred while married and cohabiting. There is a 0% chance that if she had a child from another guy that I would be on the hook for it. The men that pay child support only do so because they are tricked or fooled into it, and because they were the courts upheld the verdict. Sometimes those men had their names falsely listed on the birth certificate because the hospitals wouldn't tell them they weren't the father. A man that was medically unable to have children or never had any sexual relations wouldn't ever be in that position.

It's all just a contingency plan if I fail in finding my ideal bride in the next three years.
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Postby tom » Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:07 am

Yes the skankafication of American women.
Were all to familiar with the tatted up cum buckets with a sky high sense of entitlement.
But what has been actually happening the last several years? A recession that has not ended no matter what feel good news you want to believe in.
In 2009 I said this,
wage deflation, price inflation and few jobs, the recession is not over.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_3zmBUCVcI[/youtube]

Here is one of the realities, women have been crowding men out of college obtaining there worthless degrees, in the real world women are finding out these liberal arts degrees do not provide a living wage. Yet the price of these degrees have skyrocketed.

So they go on there cock carrousel in college, obtain a ton of debt for a liberal arts degree that has little employment value then expect a man to rescue her and pay her debts.

The real story is this type of lifestyle has been building a new underclass.

Women have been leaching off there new boyfriend the government who has effectively been borrowing money to pay for this. The nation debt ratio has been rising fast. If this continues the dollar will most likely get revalued. These programs will continue but the money they get payed by the government will not be worth much.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpUV4BRqkf0[/youtube]

So here is the new reality which today's women will realize when she hits her third decade:

Tatted up cum buckets become an impoverish class with no real prospect of escape.
Feel good liberal arts degrees have little employment value but is a crippling debt.
Finding a guy who actually makes good money and will marry them is almost impossible.

There are a whole lot of changes and opportunities under foot.

One more current thing I have noticed is the number of scams and rip offs of every stripe, more than ever.
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Postby tom » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:03 am

Many guys I know have done the foreign woman route, specifically foreign born guys! Almost every one of them will have an American woman disaster.

This weekend a guy from Cyprus was telling me his story, he came home and found his American girlfriend banging some other guy, he called the police, they told him welcome to America. It was costly but he got rid of her. He went back home and ended up meeting a Lebanese woman, they have two kids today. He knows nothing of anything on the internet. He figured it out by experience.
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Re: American Girls that Made the Right Choices

Postby Jackal » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:52 am

Tsar wrote:So if a very small number American girls can do the courtship and strict purity thing, then there will be a much greater number of foreign girls that are doing it. Eastern Europe is more traditional and conservative than America, so many of the girls there must be pure virgins.

Errrrmm... not too many! lol

Around 2:35, the interviewer asks this girl "What's the longest time you've spent having sex?" and the girl replies, "Oh... I have to think back to remember how many hours it was... 3 or 4 hours, surely--or 5--I don't know..." lol
Although she is a character on the Hungarian version of the show "Real World" (Való Világ) so she is a bit extreme, but she is more typical than pure virgins, that's for sure!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUISOSLsexo

A lot of the culture in many Eastern European countries is outwardly not traditional at all! lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXfH6GeGQPQ
(Although inwardly, people are often a lot more polite and little bit more socially conservative than Americans).

Tsar wrote:No fornication, no kissing before the wedding, and courtship (not dating) is what classifies as a traditional relationship.

^If THAT'S what you really want, then you will need to find some girl in some really remote, traditional village somewhere, in which case, you had better speak the local language in a charming and persuasive way!
So choose your language of choice and start working seriously on learning it! You won't build the necessary skills posting here in English all the time! Find a forum which uses the language you want to learn and try to post there.
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