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For example, Ukraines GDP per capita is not much different from the Philippines (3500 Ukr vs 2500ish Philippines). Both are much smaller than Europe or the USA(50k).
Yet, despite the similar GDP per capita, PI is widely regarded as a much more welcoming country.
What are the reasons for this? Greater wealth disparity? A culture that idolizes America and the West may be one major reason. What do you guys think?
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Well, it seems clear that PI really is more welcoming as you see lots of positive trip reports. On the other hand, there are few Ukraine trip reports these days and the ones that appear are ambiguous. For example, there was a middle aged guy that went to Ukr but didn't do great yet he had success when he went to PI. Another recent trip report is of a younger guy who said he had good interactions with women...but no reports of actual dating yet. Finally, even promotional videos such as recent documentaries show success only for those seeking mid-30s single moms in Ukraine.
On the other hand, everyone is universally praising the Philippines? Is it because they are so much poorer? Ukraine is not but rich but most people get by (except perhaps the single moms). Are Westerners valued by Filipino culture more? (My Ukraine interactions led me to believe most Ukr girls are put off by foreigners). Perhaps PI is overated....but if not why is it so much more welcoming?
Can't speak for on-the-ground Filipinos, but my experience with them here, in the USA, has been very positive. Of course, they weren't at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder. Still, it appears they are a generally affable people, most speak English and are welcoming to Westerners.
I'm also in contact with ex-pats and locals in various locations in RP. The only place they agree can be less than welcoming is Mindanao, mostly because of radical types bent on making trouble.
The Philippines are so welcoming of foreigners because they are perceived as being ATMs with unlimited reserves and a ticket out of the country. And the women and their sex appeal are just the bait to hook and reel them in.
Also the Philippines offers nice tourism opportunities and the people more than happy to cater to tourists....just beware of the scams with smiles.
The Philippines is a guest culture. Hospitality is ingrained and outlandishly abundant feasts seem to
be generated for the smallest reasons. Of course, some of this has been corrupted with influence from
the west, mainly the USA.
One of the negative influences from the USA is the pestilence of degenerate mongers that flash
cash in an attempt to influence girls, and typically, this attracts the girls with bar-girl mentality.
Of course, these same men later simper about how their bar-girl type treated them as a walking ATM.
It should be a DUH...moment...but stupidity is its own reward.
If you actually establish yourself in the Philippines and build a life, you will likely find some
very warm and hospitable people in your circle.
Yes, establishing yourself is important as it is in any country.
What I mean about "welcoming" is how many men are marrying Filipinas and how people have good trip reports about dating girls. Is it a cultural reason such as liking white guys or maybe being open to meeting foreigners?
Is this "guest culture" mentality the reason they are open to dating foreigners?
I know its not just about money as Ukraine is not much off from PI in terms of GDP/capita yet there is a vast difference in recent trip reports to these places.
And end up like this guy?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... hilippines
Here is a man who fell in love with the Philippines, cared deeply about the country and tried to help people. He doesn't sound like a "degenerate monger flashing cash to influence girls and corrupt the country."
The local authorities downplay the incident and cares more about its tourism image, than bringing speedy justice. And this is how "warm and hospitable people" show it's appreciation and gratitude?
No good deed goes unpunished.....especially in the Philippines.
Sure Filipinos are welcoming, as they were (initially) to Magellan and his crew. That's one difference.
Another factor is that they admire Americans unreservedly, while Ukrainians don't.
But the BIG difference is that Filipinos feel that Cano blood will improve their nation. They actually value White men for their genes. (This is a major reason why old Canos are OK with them, if they have good genes.)
"Well actually, she's not REALLY my daughter. But she does like to call me Daddy... at certain moments..."
This is the big difference, yes.
With Ukrainian girls, I felt like they wanted me for all sorts of reasons: no strings attached sex, money, being with a cool foreign guy and learning about the West, money, moving up in society, etc etc....
BUT, I never felt like childbirth was ever on their minds. This is why high birth rate countries are the best.
The Philippines is not a low crime country. The murder rate is comparable to the USA.
You sound like those Filipinos who read about some Filipina murdered by her American husband
who then project that on to the country as a whole.
The Philippines is really not everyone's cup of tea. It has many third world risks. In our case, since you seem to loath the place, I would advise staying far away. It's really not that hard.
You are quite right. Unless you know how to properly handle them without getting scammed, it's best to avoid them. But why would anyone want to get involved with them and their culture knowing the risks and knowing you have to keep your shields up 24/7? Why do you want to live in a society where lying, cheating, scamming, deceit, corruption and idiocy is the normal way of doing things?
I find it amusing that Filipinas are still touted as the best women in the world. Let's be honest now. If you knew then what you know NOW about their ways, would you still marry a Filipina again? Or do you tolerate and humor them, knowing that if you tried to get an annulment, they would make your life more than tenfold Hellish?
Unless your a moron you have to keep your guard up 24/7 no matter where you live. The difference is in your home country/city it's become second nature.
And no, I don't regret marrying a Filipina despite "their ways". As Outwest said it's not for everyone and clearly not for you.
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All women are independent humans with goals and ideas, some of which conflict with yours. That's what all relationships are about. I'm sure Filipina women and American women are equally capable of deceit or manipulation as all other humans. You always have to be on guard with people and assert yourself or people will walk all over you, no matter where you live or who you marry. I'm prepared for that. What I'm not prepared for is a woman or a culture who is not interested in family.
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Ive been to both Ukraine and the Philippines, so I think Philippines is more approachable and inviting simply because its an 'island' type place. And the reason the women like us better is likely due to their desire for white genes in their babies. I say this just going by what my girlfriend there told me. It seems white men are VERY desired there, even old mofos. Every old bastard i saw there who was white, had his way with women. it was the norm, not the exception at all to see a 60 yo with a 20 yo. I was the freak there because me and my girl are both the same age.
I was going to buy her a ring and offered to buy the $900 one and she declared its way too expensive and she looked and looked until she found the cheapest one they had at only $120. I couldn't imagine a Ukrainian woman doing that. . .
I can't imagine most filipinas doing that either lol seriously though she knows she has you in the bag is playing the sweet act and your falling for it hook line and sinker. I hope she doesn't screw you over down teh road. Either way dont ever let a filipina think its not about the money its always about the money. ALWAYS. my bargirl treated me better/did more things for me than most of you guys claiming how sweet your girl is to you.