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Being authentic/down-to-earth alienates you in America

Postby Winston » Mon May 19, 2014 11:00 am

Have you noticed something very weird, sad and sickening in America?

The more authentic and down-to-earth you are in America, the more alienated, out-of-place and suppressed you become.

The only people who are down-to-earth in America are senior citizens and older folks, especially the ones from small town America. They are the only ones who talk in a peaceful smooth manner. But not the mainstream or young adults or young women. No way. And definitely not big city folks or suburban people. Americans are the furthest in the world from being down-to-earth. Even in England, people are far more down-to-earth than in America.

So if you are down-to-earth, you will not connect with American culture, the mainstream, social cliques, young people, and especially American girls. You will only be able to connect with older folks, senior citizens, and small town people.

If you are very authentic in America, you will also not be able to express your personality or have fun either, but will feel SUPPRESSED. You will not be able to connect with fake people or interact with them smoothly, because they are on a fake wavelength that you are not on. This is because in a fake culture with fake people, such as America, only fake people can express themselves. Authentic people cannot. In a totally fake culture full of BS, the more authentic you are, the more suppressed and invalidated you will be. And as we all know, when it comes to fakeness, bullshit and self-delusion, America is KING and matched by no other.

Everywhere you go in America, when you look at people, everyone has this pompous swag, fakeness, artificiality, snottiness, snootiness, spoiled bitchy attitude, and scowl on their faces, while being distant and disconnected from others. Just watch the body language, face, and vibe of people in America and you'll see what I mean. It's hard to put into words. But it's the fakest thing in the universe, more f***ed up than words can describe, and totally sickening too. And it looks totally out of whack. Don't you hate that?

Yet if you aren't like that too, then you are out-of-place in America and feel like an oddball. It's like if you are sane, normal, genuine and wholesome, then you are abnormal in America, where everyone else looks diseased, toxic, degenerate, soulless, out of whack, and filled with spiritual darkness. It's like everything is flipped upside down in America - good is bad and bad is good, abnormal is normal and normal is abnormal, etc. Is that totally f***ed up or what?!

Being authentic and down-to-earth should be rewarded in America. It should be seen as a good thing, not a bad thing. The fact that it's treated as weak, weird and abnormal reveals how f***ed up and dysfunctional American culture and society are. It's not right or fair that down-to-earth people should be lonely and alienated just because they're real. Gee whiz. America is definitely a bizarro world. No question about it.

Oddly, if you are down-to-earth and genuine, you will be excluded and seen as uncool in America. You will not be able to fit into exclusive social cliques. Women and girls will not like your personality and will not find it attractive or cool at all. (probably because genuine down-to-earth people act as a mirror that makes them see how fake and inauthentic they are) They prefer guys with corrupt and toxic personalities like themselves. Being down-to-earth has no value in America. It makes you an oddball.

In general, down-to-earth people do not conform to trashy cultures, or desecrate their bodies with tattoos just because it's a fad that's considered cool. That's abnormal and stupid. Yet the abnormal, weird and grotesque have become the norm in America, so that if you are normal, authentic and down-to-earth, then you are abnormal, and the true "rebel". lol. Tattoos are a mark of conformity and corruption. Yet they are mainstream in America now. But if everyone has them, then they no longer make you a "rebel" or unique anymore. Instead, the true rebels are the ones who refuse to desecrate their body with them. How ironic.

Also, don't you hate how every hot girl or attractive girl in America walks by with this snobby snooty look on her face that says to you, "I'm too cool and too hot for you. Don't ever talk to me."? It's totally disgusting and sickening. Yet every hot girl seems to be infected and spoiled with that filthy rotten attitude on their faces. It's very evil and unwholesome. Yuck. The girls in modern America are definitely the furthest thing from being down-to-earth there is, as far from it as Pluto is from the Sun.

Here's a big secret and piece of good news that most Americans don't know:

In America, it's virtually impossible to find a hot girl that is down-to-earth and easy to talk to and connect with. You could have found that more easily in the 60's and 70's. But not in modern America. No way. However, in Russia, Ukraine and much of Europe, hot girls with down-to-earth personalities are EVERYWHERE! Literally! I swear to God! They are very common and you can meet them anywhere you go in those countries. Guaranteed! I've experienced this firsthand there many times and have many videos and photos to prove it. When Western men discover this, they are mesmerized in disbelief. This is why Russia and Ukraine are considered "dating paradises" for Western men.

This is a monumental life-changing secret for single authentic down-to-earth Western men of course. But it's never talked about publicly for some reason. It seems to be too taboo to ever mention publicly. That's what makes me and my site and movement unique, because we mention such truths and secrets freely.

Another observation I had while traveling:

People in small towns tend to be more down-to-earth than people in cities. The reason is because cities (especially big cities) tend to attract people who are materialistic, shallow, fake, corrupt, money sharks, and disconnected from nature and spirituality. That's why those are the types of people you find in big cities. They are extroverts with no inner life who are directed by the outer reality, not the inner. Thus they need a hectic busy outer world to distract the from the emptiness within them.

On the other hand, small towns attract people who like peace and quiet, low-stress, and the natural surroundings of the countryside. Such people will have corresponding personalities that match such a lifestyle of course. Thus you will find more authentic down-to-earth types in small towns and rural areas, and out hiking in nature too. They are more laid back because they are in a laid back environment. Rules are also less strict in small towns, and much more bendable, than in cities. The smiles you see in small towns also look more genuine. This is especially the case in small towns with populations of a few thousand or less. The smaller the town, the more these attributes apply.

I think I know why. You see, artificial people fit in more with artificial environments, whereas authentic people fit in more with nature and natural surroundings -- because nature is more authentic than cities are of course. In general, the bigger the city, the more artificial the people will be, and the smaller the city, the less artificial they will be. Fake, shallow, corrupt personalities do not truly connect with nature, nor with peace and quiet. They find nature to be hollow and small towns to be boring. They can't stand peace and quiet because they have no inner life and do not like to face the ugliness of their soul, so they need constant distractions. They lack the ability to be one with nature or one with the universe.

Does that make sense?
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Postby johny_quest » Mon May 19, 2014 11:15 am

Well, I'm going to have to refute some of that. I don't know too much about Americans, but English immigrants are everywhere here in Aus and they are the most annoying, snotty, sarcastic, arrogant people I have ever come across. Even their accent is extremely irritating. In Australia, they are known as "whinging poms" and there's a reason for that. They are always complaining and bitching about something, and you can never shut them up or make them happy. Numerous people on this forum have told Winston that English women are even worse then AWs, but everything seems to fall on deaf ears with Winston.
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Postby starchild5 » Mon May 19, 2014 1:55 pm

I agree with the assessment.....As an Asian, It has this innate desire to date a hot blonde women from the west :) ...I have messaged many in okcupid ..just to see the response....The most positive i got was from Ukraine, Russia, Belarus....so much so that I went to local site for russian speaking countries mambu.ru to find the hottest ones... :)

Due to Visa issues in India, I cannot travel to Ukraine easily and the conditions in India does not allow favorable dating romantic experience with a hot blonde EE women....I suggested Philippines or Thailand to meet and they agreed...I have to send only plane ticket...misstravel is also positive...I understand...sending plane ticket is going the wroung way and all gold digging talk BUT I'm fine with it....I'm ok if a women is after my money...I don't have much anyways and whatever I have I spend it....Its just the experience that I want....Now, a days..I only seek sluts and gold digging types...they are generally more hotter and once, they get what they want..They leave you alone...I do not have to suffer the emotional torture of being in a relationship which cost the same afterwards...

I could never have something like that in India...Spending time with them with be interesting... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Taco » Mon May 19, 2014 2:01 pm

johny_quest wrote:Well, I'm going to have to refute some of that. I don't know too much about Americans, but English immigrants are everywhere here in Aus and they are the most annoying, snotty, sarcastic, arrogant people I have ever come across. Even their accent is extremely irritating. In Australia, they are known as "whinging poms" and there's a reason for that. They are always complaining and bitching about something, and you can never shut them up or make them happy. Numerous people on this forum have told Winston that English women are even worse then AWs, but everything seems to fall on deaf ears with Winston.


I've heard most Australians don't like the English. However, Americans and Canadians can be just as bad. I lived in England for 2 years and only had a few friends from that country.

Being down to earth is often the most difficult when I go to church. Everyone there has a used car salesman/game show host personality which I do not find spiritually enlightening.
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Postby QuestionMark » Mon May 19, 2014 3:45 pm

It's true. Good people who are down to earth, normal, and genuine are usually SOL in america. Not only with women, but even in terms of making friends. Your whole social life is SOL. If you're normal, good, and down to earth, you're seen as a loser, freak, and forced into being a loner. Call it self-righteous if you want, but I think it makes sense that those type of people should be able to make friends the easiest, get the best women, and be the most accepted. But instead, it's the other way around.

In childhood, your parents, teachers, and society tells you to be a good person, but as you get older you find out that being a good person is seen as a bad thing that has negative social repurcussions and consequences. One guy I used to work with even told me one day "learn how to be fake". He said this because he could tell that I was real and down to earth unlike most of the ppl we work with. That's how you know you live in a bad society, when ppl give you advice saying you need to be more artificial.

However I don't have a problem with tattoos. I think tattoos on women are sexy.
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Postby Temprano26 » Tue May 20, 2014 8:48 pm

I have no problem with tattoos either. I had a massage instructor with an arm full of tats but he knew his anatomy. People with tats are often creative and expressive.

But yes, America alienates me for being different too. For thinking differently, for being a writer, for not getting drunk every night.
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Postby fschmidt » Tue May 20, 2014 9:51 pm

Temprano26 wrote:I have no problem with tattoos either. I had a massage instructor with an arm full of tats but he knew his anatomy. People with tats are often creative and expressive.

Please name one significant intellectual achievement made by someone with a tattoo.
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Postby pete98146 » Wed May 21, 2014 12:05 am

Down to earth people are normally old souls IMHO. They have a quiet ease about them and they don't feel the need to be a hyperactive, idiotic chatterbox. Sadly, American women crave drama and with their almost constant need to be entertained, the down to earth guy is seen as boring.

I've been around the block too many times with American women and I can tell you they are seeking any combination of the following:

1. Wealth
2. Good looks
3. Entertainment
4. Drama

The fewer traits that you possess from items 1-4 the worse you'll fare with AW. The down to earth male lacks #3 and #4.
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Postby Tezcatlipoca » Wed May 21, 2014 3:03 am

It is the business culture which wants you to be a shark to succeed and social culture where to be a man and to attract a woman you have to be strong resilient able to defend yourself, etc. However, I would say most people like down to earth people they just want you to work out, be successful, etc also. They're not really inherently antithetical are they?
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Postby Winston » Wed May 21, 2014 4:46 am

johny_quest wrote:Well, I'm going to have to refute some of that. I don't know too much about Americans, but English immigrants are everywhere here in Aus and they are the most annoying, snotty, sarcastic, arrogant people I have ever come across. Even their accent is extremely irritating. In Australia, they are known as "whinging poms" and there's a reason for that. They are always complaining and bitching about something, and you can never shut them up or make them happy. Numerous people on this forum have told Winston that English women are even worse then AWs, but everything seems to fall on deaf ears with Winston.


Dude, I already told you, if you aren't qualified to comment on a topic, then don't comment. Otherwise, you degrade the quality of the thread.

Sorry I don't believe that English women are worse than AW. That can't be possible because there is no way women could be worse than AW.

I told you already, all the English women I've met were more down-to-earth than AW. Including one on this forum, BellaRuth. She is in her 20's yet she is very down-to-earth and mature. You can see for yourself in her posts:

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/sear ... =BellaRuth

Try finding an AW in her 20's who is like BellaRuth and as intelligent and mature. You won't find it.
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Postby Winston » Wed May 21, 2014 4:57 am

QuestionMark wrote:It's true. Good people who are down to earth, normal, and genuine are usually SOL in america. Not only with women, but even in terms of making friends. Your whole social life is SOL. If you're normal, good, and down to earth, you're seen as a loser, freak, and forced into being a loner. Call it self-righteous if you want, but I think it makes sense that those type of people should be able to make friends the easiest, get the best women, and be the most accepted. But instead, it's the other way around.

In childhood, your parents, teachers, and society tells you to be a good person, but as you get older you find out that being a good person is seen as a bad thing that has negative social repercussions and consequences. One guy I used to work with even told me one day "learn how to be fake". He said this because he could tell that I was real and down to earth unlike most of the ppl we work with. That's how you know you live in a bad society, when ppl give you advice saying you need to be more artificial.

However I don't have a problem with tattoos. I think tattoos on women are sexy.


What does SOL mean? I agree with you. Down-to-earth people should be rewarded, not ostracized and alienated. But it's true. You don't connect with people or culture in America if you're authentic and down-to-earth. Especially with AW. AW are the least down-to-earth in the world, as far from it as Pluto is from the Sun. Employers seem to like down-to-earth workers though. They seem more trustworthy and are less likely to cause trouble.

Yeah when I was in kindergarten, my teachers, parents and the Walt Disney movies I was exposed to all told me that good boys were heroes and winners and got the glory. But later on, when I went to a school where everyone seemed evil and mean, I had no idea what to do. Suddenly I became vilified for no reason. Everyone picked on me for reasons I couldn't understand. It f***ed up my whole childhood and left many scars and baggage.

I escaped into TV and Star Trek. At least in Star Trek, things made sense and I could understand what was happening. I did not understand what was happening in my elementary school though. Why did everyone turn evil and treated me as if I were evil or bad? It was a bizarro world. So weird.

The good news here is that foreign women tend to like down-to-earth guys because they are down-to-earth themselves. This is yet another major reason to date overseas.
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Postby Winston » Wed May 21, 2014 5:24 am

pete98146 wrote:Down to earth people are normally old souls IMHO. They have a quiet ease about them and they don't feel the need to be a hyperactive, idiotic chatterbox. Sadly, American women crave drama and with their almost constant need to be entertained, the down to earth guy is seen as boring.

I've been around the block too many times with American women and I can tell you they are seeking any combination of the following:

1. Wealth
2. Good looks
3. Entertainment
4. Drama

The fewer traits that you possess from items 1-4 the worse you'll fare with AW. The down to earth male lacks #3 and #4.


I agree. But shouldn't you add #5: Bad boy look with tattoos? lol. American girls always seem to choose those types.

I'm not sure about #3 though. Just because someone is down-to-earth doesn't mean they're boring. They can be funny and tell a lot of jokes and laugh a lot. I'm not always serious all the time. I laugh a lot and make my own jokes. Ask Rock. He will tell you that it's true about me.

I agree that down-to-earth people are probably old souls. That would make sense.

But how come senior citizens and older people in America are so down-to-earth? Is it because that's how older people are, or because they grew up in a generation where people were more down-to-earth? In the 1950's, were young people down-to-earth? Were the kids on "Leave It To Beaver" down-to-earth?

Another observation I had while traveling:

People in small towns tend to be more down-to-earth than people in cities. The reason is because cities (especially big cities) tend to attract people who are materialistic, shallow, fake, corrupt, money sharks, and disconnected from nature and spirituality. That's why those are the types of people you find in big cities. They are extroverts with no inner life who are directed by the outer reality, not the inner. Thus they need a hectic busy outer world to distract the from the emptiness within them.

On the other hand, small towns attract people who like peace and quiet, low-stress, and the natural surroundings of the countryside. Such people will have corresponding personalities that match such a lifestyle of course. Thus you will find more authentic down-to-earth types in small towns and rural areas, and out hiking in nature too. They are more laid back because they are in a laid back environment. Rules are also less strict in small towns, and much more bendable, than in cities. The smiles you see in small towns also look more genuine. This is especially the case in small towns with populations of a few thousand or less. The smaller the town, the more these attributes apply.

I think I know why. You see, artificial people fit in more with artificial environments, whereas authentic people fit in more with nature and natural surroundings -- because nature is more authentic than cities are of course. In general, the bigger the city, the more artificial the people will be, and the smaller the city, the less artificial they will be. Fake, shallow, corrupt personalities do not truly connect with nature, nor with peace and quiet. They find nature to be hollow and small towns to be boring. They can't stand peace and quiet because they have no inner life and do not like to face the ugliness of their soul, so they need constant distractions. They lack the ability to be one with nature or one with the universe.

Does that make sense?
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Postby QuestionMark » Wed May 21, 2014 6:03 am

SOL- Shit outta luck. Didn't know if shit would get censored or not.
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Postby paulo » Wed May 21, 2014 11:14 am

because they live in the american dream and dont wish to be awaken
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Re: Why does being down-to-earth alienate you in America?!

Postby Mystery Writer » Wed May 21, 2014 11:34 am

Winston wrote:If you are down-to-earth and authentic in America, then you are a big misfit and totally out-of-place.

[Snip of a long, rambling, inchoate rave]

Does that make sense?
No.

Speaking to you now as an old guy, I'm EXACTLY the type you describe as down-to-earth. Yet, I find that your intolerant, victimized portrayal of America is not at all down-to-earth. In fact, you're as silly as those you disparage: you believe in astrology and conspiracy theories; advocate loveless sex; behave like a parasite; take long vacations while your child is abandoned in the Philippines, etc.

If you don't like being attacked for having an opinion, change that rule -- don't do it yourself.

HTH

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