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Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of decay

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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby The Un-American » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:43 am

Depends what you mean by "liberalism". I support socialism and redistribution of wealth, but not the social justice/politically correct bullshit.
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby Ghost » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:15 am

The Un-American wrote:Depends what you mean by "liberalism". I support socialism and redistribution of wealth, but not the social justice/politically correct bullshit.


The problem is how do you separate the two? With perhaps a very few exceptions throughout history, redistribution of wealth /socialism goes to the half of the species with vaginas and supports social decay. I would support "socialism" for helping men, i.e. subsidized prostitution, slut shaming education, wife-finding programs, and of course taking care of homeless and veterans, things like that. Problem is how to build such a system which won't be corrupted into a feminist redistribution of wealth?
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby The Un-American » Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:19 am

Ghost wrote:
The Un-American wrote:Depends what you mean by "liberalism". I support socialism and redistribution of wealth, but not the social justice/politically correct bullshit.


The problem is how do you separate the two? With perhaps a very few exceptions throughout history, redistribution of wealth /socialism goes to the half of the species with v****as and supports social decay. I would support "socialism" for helping men, i.e. subsidized prostitution, slut shaming education, wife-finding programs, and of course taking care of homeless and veterans, things like that. Problem is how to build such a system which won't be corrupted into a feminist redistribution of wealth?


I'm just not in favor of a materialistic culture of predatory capitalism, and I feel like society should take care of its unfortunate. And I don't want to spend my life slaving just to make a few asshole families rich. Greed and unbridled capitalism is one of the reasons America sucks so bad.
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby Winston » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:37 pm

Is it true that the jews or zionists created liberalism to weaken countries and pervert them so they could be easily controlled by jewish elites? If so then why is fschmidt against liberalism since liberalism is pro jewish right? Im confused.

Also is liberalism just communism hidden communism in disguise? If jews were behind communism as many intellectuals claim, then it would make sense for them to be behind liberalism too right?
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby fschmidt » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:39 pm

Winston, you will never find the truth if you don't read primary sources.
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby Winston » Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:49 pm

fschmidt wrote:Winston, you will never find the truth if you don't read primary sources.


Primary sources like what? You mean official history textbooks controlled by western elites and zionists and freemasons?
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby Banano » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:06 pm

Jews are behind capitalism too, they are masters and gentiles are slaves.

Since jews are the smartest and most cunning race they will naturally be on top of pyramid no matter what political or economic system is in place.
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby fschmidt » Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:17 pm

Winston wrote:Primary sources like what? You mean official history textbooks controlled by western elites and zionists and freemasons?

No, textbooks are secondary sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_source

I can recommend specific primary sources if you tell me your specific area of interest.
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby Winston » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:45 pm

fschmidt wrote:
Winston wrote:Primary sources like what? You mean official history textbooks controlled by western elites and zionists and freemasons?

No, textbooks are secondary sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_source

I can recommend specific primary sources if you tell me your specific area of interest.


Oh i see what you mean. But conspiracies arent going to have primary sources or they will be classified.

Do primary sources say that bolsheviks behind communism were jews?

Why did the daily express in 1933 run a headline that said "judea declares war on germany"? Does that mean jews started WWII?

Is the book "protocols of the learned elders of zion" a primary source?
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby fschmidt » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:03 pm

Winston wrote:Do primary sources say that bolsheviks behind communism were jews?

I don't know, I haven't read much bolshevik primary sources.

Why did the daily express in 1933 run a headline that said "judea declares war on germany"? Does that mean jews started WWII?

Here is an example where you would want to see the primary source, in other words the actual article in the Daily Express to see what it says. How can you comment on this article without reading it?

For context, I do know the Jewish position at this time in history. As usual, Jews were on both sides. The liberal Jews and Jewish bankers hated Nazism even before they attacked Jews. But the Zionists wanted an alliance with Nazism to move the German Jews to Israel which would have satisfied both Nazi and Zionist goals.

Is the book "protocols of the learned elders of zion" a primary source?

This is a fake primary source, a forgery.
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby jamesbond » Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:25 pm

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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby IraqVet2003 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:47 am

Winston wrote:When I met fschmidt, he told me something interesting.

He told me that liberalism is nothing new and it is not progressive at all. It is not an advancement in society, nor does it make a culture more evolved. It is not even a positive change.

Historically, liberalism has always come about when a culture was in decline and decay. It has never made a culture or society stronger or more prosperous, but the exact opposite. For example, after Alexander the Great died, ancient Greece went into a state of moral decay. Liberalism erupted, which brought feminism, gay rights, promiscuity, rejection of traditional values, etc. This weakened Greece so that when the Romans arrived, they were too weak to resist them.

Likewise, ancient Rome went into a state of decay in the 400's AD. The same liberalism took over and resulted in moral degradation. People became degenerate and that weakened the empire to the point of internal collapse. Hence, by 475 AD Rome itself was sacked by the northern Germanic tribes.

Now the same is happening to America.

Is that true? If so, then why do liberals and their "educated leftist intellectuals" think that liberalism is something new and progressive? Why don't American historians explain to liberals that liberalism has always been a sign of decay and cultural collapse throughout history?

I think this makes sense. Rejecting traditional values and promoting gay rights, promiscuity, and feminism, logically leads to the destruction of the family, society, men, masculinity, femininity, and all that is wholesome and natural. So how can liberals expect that such values will lead to the prosperity of America? Are they crazy and deluded? Or just evil? What motivates them?

How can making women independent and not need men, which in turns leads to depressed lonely sexually deprived men, as well as the breakdown of family and relationships, lead to a better and more prosperous society? Wtf are liberals smoking? When you destroy families and men, you destroy your own society and nation. Duh. What could be more obvious and logical?

I've never understood the appeal of liberalism. What good does it do? What's in it for me? If you aren't gay or a feminist, what's in it for you? It doesn't fulfill any of my needs at all. It's just pointless drivel that has harmful dangerous consequences to society. And why do young people tend to lean toward liberalist values?

How does liberalism begin anyway? Fschmidt told me that it begins when a society is so prosperous that its citizens become arrogant and spoiled and starting wanting more power and special rights. So they campaign for more power and then it escalates into liberalism and the breakdown of traditional values.

Fschmidt also told me something else that was interesting. He said that he researched some books that proved without a doubt that the valuation of female chastity has ALWAYS correlated with prosperous societies and cultures at their apex. Historically, societies that have valued female chastity more have always prospered.

But I'll let him elaborate on that if he wants.

He also told me that it's a bad and wrong thing for women to dress sexy and slutty and tempt men out i public that they have no interest in attracting. This is why Muslim countries don't allow them to do that, and why in the 1800's women were required to wear long dresses that covered their arms and legs. It's an insult to men to tempt them for no reason.

When I asked him why famous critics of American policy like Noam Chomsky can expose US government crimes and get away with it and keep his professorship at MIT. He told me that it's ok to be anti-American, as long as you aren't anti-liberal. Being anti-liberal is the biggest taboo and will cause one to lose their job.

What do you all think?


Very interesting post Winston!!! I too hate liberalism along with feminism.
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby josephty1 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:17 am

Its similar to how rich children may not grow up to be successful like their parents because they were spoiled. The rich children = all Americans born after World War 2.
Public school, most people between 12-35, and often your parents are brainwashed and trying to brainwash you.

*sigh* money and workaholic culture replaces healthy social interaction.
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Re: Liberalism is not new or progressive, but a sign of deca

Postby Gadfly » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:51 am

Winston wrote:Now the same is happening to America.

Is that true? If so, then why do liberals and their "educated leftist intellectuals" think that liberalism is something new and progressive? Why don't American historians explain to liberals that liberalism has always been a sign of decay and cultural collapse throughout history?

I think this makes sense. Rejecting traditional values and promoting gay rights, promiscuity, and feminism, logically leads to the destruction of the family, society, men, masculinity, femininity, and all that is wholesome and natural.


Don't forget racial diversity (a.k.a. "civil rights") as one of those fantasies that liberalism promotes. The civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s advanced liberalism just as much as feminism and homosexual rights did. The flood of non-European immigrants into North America and Europe (1965 - present) is a consequence of the racial diversity movement.
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